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teshy2 · #1 08-11-2004, 01:40 PM

I click and click Loriel and click Loriel again and again but I get no free gralats!!~
Omagawd, I'm going to sue your pants off for false advertising. >:O

protagonist · #2 08-11-2004, 03:52 PM

That's funny; we ban normal players for stealing accounts and have their websites taken down for having websites that claim to be Graalonline (I'm sure I would also be banned if I did something like this). Were Loriel not a scripter, I am certain he would be globally banned, not just forum banned.

I think that it would be a justified ban. It violates the rule of common sense, something someone in a global staff position should have. If I went on a playerworld and saw someone advertising a link for a site like that, my first action would be to take a screenshot and have Spark globally ban him/her. Don't pretend that you all wouldn't do the same thing; you're just circling the wagons.

You're asking yourself the silly question "does this violate a rule"? Does "arbitrarily" banning a person violate any rule?* No, it doesn't. The rules clearly state a Graalonline Admin reserves the right to revoke access based on their judgement. In my judgement, apparently Moonie's as well, and that of several other users, this act is inappropriate.

*I'm not conceding that this ban would be arbitrary, either.

Loriel · #3 08-11-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist

You're asking yourself the silly question "does this violate a rule"? Does "arbitrarily" banning a person violate any rule?* No, it doesn't. The rules clearly state a Graalonline Admin reserves the right to revoke access based on their judgement. In my judgement, apparently Moonie's as well, and that of several other users, this act is inappropriate.

*I'm not conceding that this ban would be arbitrary, either.

That is your interpretation, which is clearly irrelevant.

Darlene159 · #4 08-11-2004, 04:10 PM

Kai, if I wanted to ban Loriel, I would have already.....I dont wish to ban anyone.
I knew why Loriel had done what he did, but that does not justify him doing something that would get anyone else banned, I should have banned him, and I apologize to the rest of the community for not doing my job because of Loriel's positin, and knowing the reasons why he did what he did. If I had thought for a second, that Loriel was actually stealing password, I would have instantly banned, but I knew why he did it, so I did not....even though a regualr member, or anyone else would have been banned, anyone sending links like this in game would be banned.

Kai, the only attack you are giving me is that I said "he broke the rules", ok so there is no specific rule that he broke, I will refrase it...what he did was wrong and bannable, and you cannot say it wasnt bannable, because people are getting banned for those kinds of links all the time.

You people act as if you think you really know Loriel...none of us do unless any one of you know him in real life, any one of use could do something corrupt at any given time for all you know. Nemesis did.....

I dislike the message this thread is sending other members of this community, and I dont want to go into detail on this statement for obvious reasons, but with Kai and Loriel's awesome, "noone can touch me", intelligence, I am sure they can figure it out

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You're asking yourself the silly question "does this violate a rule"? Does "arbitrarily" banning a person violate any rule?* No, it doesn't. The rules clearly state a Graalonline Admin reserves the right to revoke access based on their judgement. In my judgement, apparently Moonie's as well, and that of several other users, this act is inappropriate.

You are correct

Loriel · #5 08-11-2004, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

You people act as if you think you really know Loriel...none of us do unless any one of you know him in real life, any one of use could do something corrupt at any given time for all you know. Nemesis did.....

I absolutely fail to see your point.
I do not know you. Please remove your moderation powers because I am afraid that you will go corrupt and delete random threads. oh, wait, it is not corrupt if you do it.

Darlene159 · #6 08-11-2004, 04:24 PM

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I absolutely fail to see your point.
I do not know you. Please remove your moderation powers because I am afraid that you will go corrupt and delete random threads. oh, wait, it is not corrupt if you do it.

That isnt the point I was making, and you know it

Loriel · #7 08-11-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

That isnt the point I was making, and you know it

No, not really.

dlang · #8 08-11-2004, 04:38 PM

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No, not really.

That shows how little sense you have.

Kaimetsu · #9 08-11-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Kai, if I wanted to ban Loriel, I would have already.....I dont wish to ban anyone.

That seems at odds with your earlier statements.

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Kai, the only attack you are giving me is that I said "he broke the rules"

Attack? What are you talking about?

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ok so there is no specific rule that he broke, I will refrase it...what he did was wrong and bannable

Everything is 'bannable'. Can you actually explain how banning him would have any positive effect, though?

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any one of use could do something corrupt at any given time for all you know. Nemesis did.....

Nemesis was always a corrupt idiot. Anybody with eyes could've seen it from the start. Do not compare him to Loriel.

Obviously you feel that some people can be trusted more than others or you would not advocate their having powers. Was Unixmad wrong to appoint you to supermod, without knowing you completely?

protagonist · #10 08-11-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Everything is 'bannable'. Can you actually explain how banning him would have any positive effect, though?

No positive effect, but it negates the negative effect that makes it appear that globals get away with things normal players do not get away with.

MagicalTux · #11 08-11-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Everything is 'bannable'. Can you actually explain how banning him would have any positive effect, though?

Maybe for him to understand that doing something bad wasn't the solution to the problem...
Even if he couldn't contact me on ICQ, there's many other ways to contact me...

brock128 · #12 08-11-2004, 04:54 PM

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Everything is 'bannable'. Can you actually explain how banning him would have any positive effect, though?

Said it once, say it again - One less unstable Global.

And I already stated one act of corruption, but it seems nobody read the topic, so I'll say it again. Back when I was ET on 2k1, he was screwing with my events. Stole the prize money, pretty sure he started taking a nukeshot and started blowing stuf up. That's the one thing that I recall off the top of my head, but I also thought there was something on 2k2 with his corruption.

I do know that Loriel is very unstable, and I have no idea why he's a global, and why people seem to trust him so much.

WanDaMan · #13 08-11-2004, 04:57 PM

Loriel should be banned, and I hope he does get banned for it if he hasn't been banned yet.

If it was someone else like Pie for instance, he'd get banned in a second..
Even if he seems responsable, didn't Nemesis?

Eventhough he hasn't broke a rule, it's still wrong and something needs to be done about it.

Kaimetsu · #14 08-11-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicalTux

Maybe for him to understand that doing something bad wasn't the solution to the problem...

You haven't yet shown that his actions were "bad" in any meaningful sense. Example: You used some flawed grammar in your post. This is unquestionably bad. Should you be banned in the hopes that you will learn not to do it again?

Again: Bans are only justified if it can be shown that they stand a reasonable chance of improving the board. Nobody has yet done that here.

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Said it once, say it again - One less unstable Global.

No matter how many times you say it, the words will carry no weight unless you back them up. Horror stories of distant corruption are hardly convincing evidence.

In any case, if he should be banned, it shouldn't be in response to this event.

brock128 · #15 08-11-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

No matter how many times you say it, the words will carry no weight unless you back them up. Horror stories of distant corruption are hardly convincing evidence.

In any case, if he should be banned, it shouldn't be in response to this event.

That's great except...
a) My hard drive crashed a while ago, so I lost my cashe of pictures.
b) I'm not even AT my computer now, vacation.
c) He's banned anyway, so yeah.