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Old 09-25-2008, 06:33 AM
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:00 AM
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I logged on cause I saw 32 players today, Well turns out like 17 where staff and RCs o.o

Yea this is false. What the hell are you talking about kid?

There isnt even 8 staff to double and call 16 staff? Your mental. Wow lol. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 .

Learn your numerical system again pal.

Chris I had respect for you untill you started bashing Atrius to such an extent. Like for real?

Houdini please close this, all it is is a bashing thread that Chris has taken over. If you disagree so god damned much Chris why the hell even post?
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:32 AM
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Warlord2004 you are wrong. Play graal a little more and you will see why. no offense lol.

TheJames, this thread shouldnt be closed. Your really taking this the wrong way. There is a treasure trove of ideas here for your server. Incorporate them. According the first post by Houdini

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Our impressions and comments are welcome, and apparently you are (or at least should be) eager to hear them. Also im sick of people getting threads closed because it didnt turn out they way they hoped. Its not fair that one person ruins it for all.If its really a problem just delete chris posts. problem solved. i like others are eager to see the changes that are being implemented and the players impressions.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:46 PM
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I think he was kidding, Charlie.

Also to Chris's post,
Atrius's Economy:
A) Better than Era's by far.
B) Businesses are taxed (or will be soon.)
C) They've developed a political system as well as an Economic Council (That Era is lacking and SERIOUSLY needs.)
D) Atrius staff is not as mean as Erian staff (Maybe a few staff are a little mean, but it's a big + compared to Era's staff.)
E) Finally, they actually have development. They're working hard to make Atrius the best.

So Chris, if you hate Atrius, that's fine. But, Atrius is working their tuchus off to do their best work.

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a) when you're managing an economy of a player base of like, 20, it's much easier. when you have 150 - 200 different players that play Era, it's a lot harder to manage the economy. you guys wouldn't know that because you've never made it past hosted. don't even try comparing the economy.

b) we have taxes too. we just don't tax items from a certain price. this way businesses aren't screwed over.

c) Era doesn't need a political system. It's the dumbest idea ever to be thought to put on Era.

d) I'm sure most Atrius staff are used to having not many players on the server, therefor a lot more abuse.

e) so do we, but people like you are too ignorant to realize that.
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, you can't call your economy stable until you've actively had 200+ different players every day for a couple of months. If it's still stable after that, then you may call it stable. For the moment anyways.
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We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:04 PM
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We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.
That's just words though.

It's actually dumb to compare the economy at Atrius with the economy at Era.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:22 PM
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Chris I had respect for you untill you started bashing Atrius to such an extent. Like for real?
You seriously think I'm bashing Atrius? You've never seen me truly bash a server, then.
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If you disagree so god damned much Chris why the hell even post?
I'm not exactly sure where you are getting your ideas from ... if I wanted your server to fail, I would have made sure all of the things I made were removed (gang system was the only I noticed). If I wanted the server to fail, I wouldn't have given you so many ideas to help Atrius succeed.

You need, like most other server managers, learn how to accept criticism.

To want this thread closed simply shows that you can not handle the criticism, or do not want to admit that your server needs a lot of work to be done.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:47 PM
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We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.
Era has more item drops/item trades in 10 minutes than you guys probably have in an hour. Over night when your playercount is no more than 2 or 3 (not including the RCs) all of Era's players that don't live in the US are trading. Our logs are probably 100x larger than yours too. Checking logs constantly to look for glitches is just not an option for us.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:03 AM
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Yes logs are hard and i don't believe anyone would simply rather run tru logs all day everyday...

But a system could be implemented to catch a hacker you need to think like one...
Know the resources find out what programs they use we all know about Cheat Engine cause on n-pulse anyone using cheat engine the npc server automatically respond to it and ban the player...But graal isn't so high-tech there always new coders out there who loved to ruin the fun for others....

So it doesn't based on if the server is corrupted or staff don't notice players using cheats ...Glitches always would be there i remember i once used the Gralat cheat and by means we all did running around and dropping 9000000 gold rupees lol... Yet it was fixed man i miss that ..

So logs and glitches doesn't make a server it's the players if you have more to offer them they will come...

Why not try and focus something simular to like erm modern warfare like make it into a army server where lets see the east vs the west everything is provided but the ranks what makes you get more stuff.....It be fun to see the army vs the terrorist on graal
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We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.
However, if we suspect anyone of 'abusing' [obtaining illegal things, such as items and money] we can find out in a matter of minutes if it's true or not.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:45 AM
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Its easy to view logs, You just put them in a weapon or in microsoft word and it seperates each one, and in our first 20 hours there was more then 1 hack attempt every hour if you were figuring it that way we dont know how far inbetween it was, but our logs for one day are about 23 pages in ms word, I dont really understand how it happend that way but for example our banking log I was going through it and we have players who withdraw 14k and put it back in 10 seconds later, Sounds like there trying to glitch but it doesnt work and all it ends up doing is making me open up another huge log to make sure it didnt glitch, we have weird players on and, on some days we have been getting a good chunk of PB. I understand you probably also have weird players on era but, in that case you should hire one or two people to check the logs and that be there job, our staff just do it if there not doing anything so theres another idea for all of eras staff.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:58 AM
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Its easy to view logs, You just put them in a weapon or in microsoft word and it seperates each one, and in our first 20 hours there was more then 1 hack attempt every hour if you were figuring it that way we dont know how far inbetween it was, but our logs for one day are about 23 pages in ms word, I dont really understand how it happend that way but for example our banking log I was going through it and we have players who withdraw 14k and put it back in 10 seconds later, Sounds like there trying to glitch but it doesnt work and all it ends up doing is making me open up another huge log to make sure it didnt glitch, we have weird players on and, on some days we have been getting a good chunk of PB. I understand you probably also have weird players on era but, in that case you should hire one or two people to check the logs and that be there job, our staff just do it if there not doing anything so theres another idea for all of eras staff.
Now, imagine trying to do the same thing on Era. It would NEVER work. You'd need a team of 6-7 people working on it.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:18 AM
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Now, imagine trying to do the same thing on Era. It would NEVER work. You'd need a team of 6-7 people working on it.
We had one guy with the job of going through logs actively on Zodiac, he managed it just fine, and I'm pretty damned sure those logs are biggest on Graal.
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