Graal V4 released to VIP today - Page 7

Admins · #91 09-07-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fry

I'm still confused why you went back to Delphi; Graal v3 seemed perfectly fine to me, but since I don't know the specifics, I guess I'm missing something. To me there seemed to be much more problems with v4 than with v3 (especially fonts - and I don't think Bitmap fonts are a step into the right direction).
Again, I might just be missing something there, but it'd be nice to know.

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

Skyld · #92 09-07-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?

Questa · #93 09-07-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?

He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)

Fry · #94 09-07-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

Well, yes, I guess not having to fight with the Windows API to integrate external windows is a good reason. Okay. But why were there such big problems with TTF that Bitmap fonts needed to be used? Did Torque or v3 display Bitmap fonts too?

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Originally Posted by Questa

He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)

Should, yes, but isn't; I don't think DDraw7 was such a good choice. But lets wait until it's finished.

Matt · #95 09-08-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer.

CheeToS2 · #96 09-08-2005, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer.

v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)

Inverness · #97 09-10-2005, 02:20 AM

Hmm, so v4 has the internal (GS2) and external (Delphi) GUIs, I think it was a good idea to do this. Much better to have the playerlist outside the Graal window. Also like the new GS2 GUI theme.

Also I would like if you could somehow add more advanced features to the NPCServer, like some type of extended connection for people with the rights that would have more options than the normal NC, that would allow you to take things a step further in how the NPCServer operates, make it unique to the server.
I hope i'm making sense.

Matt · #98 09-11-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeToS2

v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)

I disabled that right after the first time i downloaded V4.

Deek2 · #99 10-21-2005, 03:56 AM

So, when is the OSX version going to come out (or if it has already been released)?

napo_p2p · #**100** 10-21-2005, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Deek2

So, when is the OSX version going to come out (or if it has already been released)?

This?
http://www.graalonline.com/downloads/Graal4Setup.dmg.gz

Deek2 · #**101** 10-21-2005, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

This?
http://www.graalonline.com/downloads/Graal4Setup.dmg.gz

Does this come included with RC? I'm not on my mac right now to look

ApothiX · #**102** 10-21-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Inverness

Hmm, so v4 has the internal (GS2) and external (Delphi) GUIs

I think v4 was completely redone in C++, no more Delphi :P

Malinko · #**103** 10-21-2005, 05:27 PM

The last I saw of Graal v4 for Apple/Mac was yesterday when Stefan was testing it. So I'm guessing it will be released soon.

napo_p2p · #**104** 10-21-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

The last I saw of Graal v4 for Apple/Mac was yesterday when Stefan was testing it. So I'm guessing it will be released soon.

It was

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61843

doomboy00 · #**105** 10-22-2005, 11:51 PM

Hoorah for graal on mac.
My brother just updated to gold just to check out g4, i like it. Now all the emoticons can be used and when commands are bound to buttons they actually work 'omg'. So looking good as of now, plus many annoying bugs from the last client are gone with the new engine such as crashing from certain masses and weapons saving even when told to destroy;.
YAY!!
Can't wait till i can use it on my classic account and anticipate an RC for mac which has the functionality of the pc rc.

But as of now, looking good, and I think it may have bought my brother back to the game.

Good Job