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Old 05-18-2002, 09:53 AM
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Uh - Is NewWorld going to come out? I really don't think so :/
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Old 05-18-2002, 09:54 AM
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He even told us in a Mass Message on 2k1 =/
Yes, there are bugs, there could also be a crapload of other reasons why this is delayed. I honestly doubt Stefan or unixmad would delay it just to laugh and say "Ha ha poor G2K1 suckers!"

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Old 05-18-2002, 09:57 AM
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Yes, there are bugs, there could also be a crapload of other reasons why this is delayed. I honestly doubt Stefan or unixmad would delay it just to laugh and say "Ha ha poor G2K1 suckers!"
Yes It's true their could have been other reasons but The For the Most part, Bugs Were the Main Reason why the yet Agian, Delayed it.

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Learn some respect, son, THEN come back here and talk to me.
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Old 05-18-2002, 12:02 PM
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Don't try and blemish everything that's given to you because it doesn't come when you want it to.
It isn't given to us, we paid for it.
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:11 PM
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It isn't given to us, we paid for it.
Tell me where it says "Oh, and by paying for graal, we promise you get to ALPHA TEST G2K2!"
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:15 PM
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One thing I dislike, is, that how lacking customer support is ...
I pay real money to play this game and when things go wrong I would like to have them dealt with quickly. Not having to wait for whenever someone who can fix my problems feels like getting on or whenever they are not "busy."
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:15 PM
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Tell me where it says "Oh, and by paying for graal, we promise you get to ALPHA TEST G2K2!"
Doesn't it say when you pay for an account that part of the p2p payment includes however many months of 2k2, while the rests of the money is # of months for 2k1 and lifetime for Classic?

Edit: And since it isn't even up, why do we have to pay for it as part of the entire payment plan?
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:29 PM
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Yes, we were cheated. He gave us his word.

Oh, and you're saying ALPHA TESTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG FREE?! Anyone who thinks that is a complete and utter idiot. What do you think Alpha testing is for?! ALPHA TESTING IS USED SO PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPERS CAN TEST IT, AND FIND AND REPORT BUGS. If this was the final release, THEN it'd have to be bug-less. BUT THIS IS ONLY ALPHA TESTING GODDAMNIT! We test it, TO FIND THE BLOODY BUGS.
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:32 PM
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Yes, we were cheated. He gave us his word.

Oh, and you're saying ALPHA TESTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG FREE?! Anyone who thinks that is a complete and utter idiot. What do you think Alpha testing is for?! ALPHA TESTING IS USED SO PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPERS CAN TEST IT, AND FIND AND REPORT BUGS. If this was the final release, THEN it'd have to be bug-less. BUT THIS IS ONLY ALPHA TESTING GODDAMNIT! We test it, TO FIND THE BLOODY BUGS.
No, dude. I am pretty sure alpha testing is for developers/people close to the development team only, and beta (or open beta) is for the public to test it to the max and find/report any bugs they encounter. I think it can also go into meta (Tribes 2?), but I don't rightly know what that part of the process is exactly.
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:34 PM
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Yes, we were cheated. He gave us his word.

Oh, and you're saying ALPHA TESTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG FREE?! Anyone who thinks that is a complete and utter idiot. What do you think Alpha testing is for?! ALPHA TESTING IS USED SO PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPERS CAN TEST IT, AND FIND AND REPORT BUGS. If this was the final release, THEN it'd have to be bug-less. BUT THIS IS ONLY ALPHA TESTING GODDAMNIT! We test it, TO FIND THE BLOODY BUGS.
No offense, Nick, but...

you need to slide into the real world...

which has many situations quite like this...
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:35 PM
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No offense, Nick, but...

you need to slide into the real world...

which has many situations quite like this...
i think its that nerd issue thing of his again...
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:54 PM
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No offense, Nick, but...

you need to slide into the real world...

which has many situations quite like this...
Yeah... it does. Sorry. I'm just feeling sick, and when I'm sick, I get moody, and easily annoyed. Sorry.

But Alpha testing can be public, take ragnarok for example. That had public alpha testing. alpha testing it to find the major bugs, when there's really only about a third of the total thing done, and up. Here, I'll grab one of my dad's computer magazines and copy out what it says alpha testing and beta testing is, according to the manager of computing facilities at the UNSW School of Computer Science:

"Alpha software is still in early stages of development, with little or no functionality; beta software is working sufficiently that it can be tested by experienced users for the purpose of finding and resolving 'bugs'. Occasionally there is a gamma release of software for a final testing phase. Generally, any Greek-letter release is a pre-publication test release for in-house testing or for testing by experienced users."

And, as such, it doesn't have to be bug free, for it is a public alpha testing stage.
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Old 05-18-2002, 02:21 PM
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Yes, we were cheated. He gave us his word.
He did no such thing. He gave us a prediction.

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Oh, and you're saying ALPHA TESTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG FREE?! Anyone who thinks that is a complete and utter idiot. What do you think Alpha testing is for?! ALPHA TESTING IS USED SO PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPERS CAN TEST IT, AND FIND AND REPORT BUGS. If this was the final release, THEN it'd have to be bug-less. BUT THIS IS ONLY ALPHA TESTING GODDAMNIT! We test it, TO FIND THE BLOODY BUGS.
BUT! The reason he's delaying it is that there are bugs that he already knows about. Alpha testing finds bugs, yes, but there's no point doing it if you've already got enough bugs to fix.
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Old 05-18-2002, 11:38 PM
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Learn some respect, son, THEN come back here and talk to me.
Respect? I had respect for staff who is "working hard" on 2k2, then they gave us this "we're working on it" crap, and nothing else except more delays. How the hell can I respect a team of ppl who have brought the players nothing but delays and frustration so far? I can't. If you think I should respect them, go tell someone who cares.
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Yes, we were cheated. He gave us his word.

Oh, and you're saying ALPHA TESTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG FREE?! Anyone who thinks that is a complete and utter idiot. What do you think Alpha testing is for?! ALPHA TESTING IS USED SO PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPERS CAN TEST IT, AND FIND AND REPORT BUGS. If this was the final release, THEN it'd have to be bug-less. BUT THIS IS ONLY ALPHA TESTING GODDAMNIT! We test it, TO FIND THE BLOODY BUGS.
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