The Death of Era

[Old_Days]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Asking to become LAT isn't going to get you anywhere.
Most likely you'll just be told to wait until they're accepting applications.

BUT, if you make a new thread and post some of your levels, and if the levels are good, then you might get a consideration before they're officially hiring.
(This is the way that things have always been on Era, because applications only show that a person can make 3 good levels in their lifetime. Forum posts can show that you can make 3 good levels in a day and can show the evolution of your work, etc.).

Tsk tsk tsk Rjax, dont do it the graal ghetto way and say, hire me for LAT im good. When I was manager on Noctorious and people just pmed me asking, can I become LAT when it wasnt listed on the application, i backlisted them.

Since there is no application out right now im afraid that demisis is right.

[salesman]

There actually is an application up, but we will not actually hire anyone right now. If you apply, your application will be looked at and saved depending on whether or not we like it, and when the time comes that we finally start hiring, you will be contacted concerning your application.

When I originally posted the thread, I was counting on something to be completed which would require me to hire more LATs...unfortunately it fell through.

We are definitely looking for graphics artists though. desperately, might I add

edit: if/when we decide to hire LATs, I will make another announcement so that everyone has a chance to send in an application if they haven't already.

[Dnegel]

Mhmmm, a thread about Era levels only. That would been neat.

[Venom_Fish]

Personally, I'd say don't do a halloween event at all if you're going to half-ass it. Simply, if you have more important things to work on, by all means... work on them. I personally could care less about a halloween event, but if you're going to do one, and decide to do one, make it good. Not this piece of ****. If you knew you weren't putting the effort or work necessary to produce something "good", then don't do it at all.

As for OD, I think that would've been a better argument for you, than whatever it is you argued. Didn't read your argument, but from the responses, it looks like it wasn't that.

Was that so hard? (Note: I read the first paragraph of everyone's past responses, so yeah).

Where I come from, its go hard or go home. If you're not putting your all into getting something done, its probably better off you don't half-ass it.

[zim5354]

Era cant be saved, the server has changed to much for the oldbies to come back (not to mention the time that has passed). the current playerbase has grown bored with shallow gameplay, and corruption (i havent logged on in a loooong time but era has always had corruption, i doubt thats different now. but if im wrong please correct me). finally graal's playercount has been falling, era is a server on graal so if the game dies the server dies. much of era's problems arent really the servers fault, its the game the server is part of.

[deathbarrier99]

I'm an oldbie and I play again.

I'm an oldbie right?

[Eclipse]

ur the fat cassini thats all

[Dnegel]

Yeh, Graal Online needs to come up with something.

[MontyPython]

Originally Posted by Old_Days

Ok well that wasnt simple at all, and I didnt finish reading it.

But it sounds like to me that you just view graal as a novelty item, dumb game.

Then if its just what you say it is, then what are we even arguing about? Lots of people like holidays and I do too. Graal celebrates holidays and thats awesome that they do. If they didnt, well I wouldnt quit over it. But COMPARED to last years it wasnt that good.


If you really took the target line to heart, then good for you. But of course things like target have nothing to do with graal captain obvious. Its called a comparison.

So if you feel the need to try to outsmart me still, you know where to find me.

If you didn't find the time to read it (though most people that say they didn't read it did, they just use that excuse as a way to "deftly" avoid particular parts of an argument they can't combat), then nearly everything you say in your argument is invalidated.

I never said that Graal hates holidays, I tried expressing to you that holidays won't be the primary concern of each and every server. I don't think that's very hard to understand. If I viewed Graal as simply a dumb, novelty game I'd be right up there with you lamenting the fact that their holiday events aren't nearly as spectacular as they should be.

Be specific in what about last year made it better. You keep bringing up the past, yet not bringing up the specifics as to what exactly made it better.

Finally, in a debate there are guidelines to "comparisons". We were comparing holiday events in online games compared to Graal's events, not comparing retail stores to Graal. Therefore, your comparison is neither relevant, nor logical.

Let me give you an example (seeing as how my other post was overly "complex"): There are two crates of apples, sitting side by side. We are trying to figure out which are the most ripe, and we begin comparing and contrasting the attributes of the apples in both crates. Then, you, the intrepid scholar steps up and exclaims "The apples in the right crate are more ripe, it's obvious! These oranges over here are perfectly ripe, therefore the apples in the right crate must be as well. Thank you."

Bravo.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Old_Days

I can think of millions of ways it can be improved, and so can you. Except for me, im not going to waste my time writing them all down.

So write one down.

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Old_Days

ok, well first off you can start by firing all GP's and stopping all the controlling. The only good GP is crackwizar and zoo, they wont jail you for saying arse-hole (replace the word)to everyone on era...lol.

If you have complaints about a PR, send me a forum PM or ticket through the support center. I can't do anything with general accusations...and don't just complain because they've punished you and you don't like them. Don't break the rules and you won't have that problem (not accusing you, just saying -- you have never contacted me about a problem with a PR)!

Originally Posted by Old_Days

Next, you should probably tune everyone into the new era server a bit more, let everyone know whats going on with that. Theres not really any point in keeping it a big secret when we are going to find out anyways..if we ever do.

I've already addressed this. We've basically rescripted the entire server from ground up -- everything is more organized, more efficient, and more user-friendly (for future developers). We've finally begun working on the gameplay-side, and have hired Crow to help with that. Expect more updates and announcements in this area soon.

Originally Posted by Old_Days

Next you should incoperate more role playing into gangs, in other words, make them have a purpose other than just raiding each other. Like Tachi for example, used to be ninjas REAL ninjas. That was awesome. Perfect, a hole in the gound for them. They threw shurikans and had some other things special to them.

Each gang should have a special power, not just a gang gun, o wow how awesome is that. Like a special tool that everyone in that gang can use. Dont make people have to buy it jeez.

I'm not sure if you've read the other thread, but raiding seems to be the most popular thing to do with gangs. Nobody is stopping you from roleplaying...you don't need some fancy scripted system to pretend to be a gangster . This doesn't mean we're going to completely ignore the RP-side of gangs, but gang competition and raiding will come first.

Originally Posted by Old_Days

Improve on the events, just making new events i dont think will help anymore. Try making a system for rooms in which players can choose their events and play it with others that want to play that event.

We have plans to create an event system similar to the one MontyPython suggested. It will encourage more participation because not only ONE person is rewarded.

Originally Posted by Old_Days

New adventures, we have seen all the quest, we need another place to roam around other than just the main map.

Im going to cut it short here for now.

A quest is done once and then never looked at again. If you have any ideas to make this more interesting, please share, but quests have never been a big part of Era. I don't think aimlessly exanding the gmap will solve anything, either.

[Old_Days]

Originally Posted by salesman

If you have complaints about a PR, send me a forum PM or ticket through the support center. I can't do anything with general accusations...and don't just complain because they've punished you and you don't like them. Don't break the rules and you won't have that problem (not accusing you, just saying -- you have never contacted me about a problem with a PR)!


I've already addressed this. We've basically rescripted the entire server from ground up -- everything is more organized, more efficient, and more user-friendly (for future developers). We've finally begun working on the gameplay-side, and have hired Crow to help with that. Expect more updates and announcements in this area soon.



I'm not sure if you've read the other thread, but raiding seems to be the most popular thing to do with gangs. Nobody is stopping you from roleplaying...you don't need some fancy scripted system to pretend to be a gangster . This doesn't mean we're going to completely ignore the RP-side of gangs, but gang competition and raiding will come first.


We have plans to create an event system similar to the one MontyPython suggested. It will encourage more participation because not only ONE person is rewarded.



A quest is done once and then never looked at again. If you have any ideas to make this more interesting, please share, but quests have never been a big part of Era. I don't think aimlessly exanding the gmap will solve anything, either.

O.o Well expanding the Gmap would be a ******* idea, I agree with you on that, maybe ill see if I can use my noobish LATing skills to start a new quest or somthing

As for everything else, well youve put things in perspective, that will probably be the last youll be hearing from me. Unless I dont understand something again, but now you know how to handle me:] Now id like to help you out with some things if you dont mind.

I guess evil can turn to good cant it?

Or is it the other way around :/

[MontyPython]

I still enjoy how not one of his "millions" of ideas pertained to the halloween event, which he seemed so stuck on.

Deleting that ****'s not going to help much, considering most of it's quoted. :]

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Old_Days

Ok I understand how well you did in your 8th grade language arts class, now how about we get off the topic of fallacies and concentrate on the main topic again. We all know how well you can write a 5 paragraph essay to make it sound like your not saying 2 sentences worth of ****.

Anyways, if you need me to be any more clearer on how the halloween event couldve been improved, then you need to contact your self concious.

I can think of millions of ways it can be improved, and so can you. Except for me, im not going to waste my time writing them all down.

So in other words you're going to be a negative nancy without bringing anything constructive to the table at all? Nice, now go away. I bet if we had made Halloween better than last year, you'd be here complaining about why we wasted our time on Halloween when there's more important things to do

FYI: We're not planning on going anywhere anytime soon, so what you see is what you get. If you don't like the way we're doing things, that's fine, but don't come on the forums just to troll and cause problems for everyone -- try being helpful. If you want Era to improve, help us help you...if not, I'm sure nobody will care if you leave.

Honestly, what do you think would happen if we were gone? Do you expect some magical savior to sweep in and make all your dreams come true? No. There's nobody around who is capable of finishing what we have started on Era Dev (at least not as well as us ). You'd be stuck with PWAs managing the server, and "New Era" would go back to being no more than an idea. But hey, at least we'd be gone, right?