The Classic Lottery

[BlackSolider]

Managers agree on a vision of what classic should be based on input from the players along with their own thoughts, and then the dev team goes and makes it happen, no?

[MysticX2X]

That isn't how Tatsumi said it tbh but w/e.

[acaremon02]

Wow, every thread I've read with a different title is talking about the same thing.

anyways,

Originally Posted by Luda

Lottery Prize Suggestions:
-portable horse

I like that idea.
Maybe in the prize store, we can sell different model of portable horses..
Like the mintocat horse :P

[Luda]

Originally Posted by acaremon02

Wow, every thread I've read with a different title is talking about the same thing.

anyways,



I like that idea.
Maybe in the prize store, we can sell different model of portable horses..
Like the mintocat horse :P

lol i was being sarcastic

[Shadow87]

Originally Posted by acaremon02

Wow, every thread I've read with a different title is talking about the same thing.

anyways,



I like that idea.
Maybe in the prize store, we can sell different model of portable horses..
Like the mintocat horse :P

Well yes, that is because I want people to get the point already


@Mystic- Not a slave tool, but a work force. Everyone needs to sit down for a good team building. It would seem mystic that you have never had a real job, because any job, in a game that you don't get money for working on, or at an actual job you get paid for, there still always is a boss. DA BOSS! So in our case, Thor, and sadly, Storm. Development is lead by DC, who is UNDER Storm and Thor. Thor and Storm should be creating the concepts, even DC, creating a structure as i type this, that is what should be going on right now. I doubt that it is, but all in all, Development is a staff division under DC, who is under thor and storm. GC, under Night, who is under Thor and Storm. Ranger, under those two, and Stryker, under those two. Really thor and storm could control all the divisions if they really wanted to, but that is quite the load to handle. So they have 4 people to do that for them.

So again, not a slave team, but a staff division/work force. Come on , you should know that.

And Gladius, Managers should create the image for classic, what its going to be about. They should not be taking input from players...look where it got us. They should create the structure, and then yes, Development should make it. IF not that, what is development here for?

[BlackSolider]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

And Gladius, Managers should create the image for classic, what its going to be about. They should not be taking input from players

So managers aren't supposed to take input from players, and yet you're trying to tell them to turn classic into a quest-driven server? Something doesn't quite add up.

Besides, if they don't listen to the players, will the players ever be happy or feel important? The basic theory of a democracy is that the people are happier because their voice is heard, even if it is the minority party or viewpoint. Now obviously classic is far from a democracy, but unless the people feel a part of the community, they don't have any stake in it, and thus don't feel compelled to stay.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

So managers aren't supposed to take input from players, and yet you're trying to tell them to turn classic into a quest-driven server?

a certain server called graal the adventure was "popular" because of the quests its had. if classic cant have that , then put it in the bin.

[acaremon02]

Originally Posted by Luda

lol i was being sarcastic

Why, it would be so awesome.

It's so damn "classic" compared to those convertibles UN/Era people drive.

[Shadow87]

Actually gladius, I am just saying the wise choice to make would be to create the quests. They don't have to listen to me. Its their choice.

[BlackSolider]

Indeed it is.

[Cetellic]

If you ask me Managers shouldnt really be ASKING for player opinion, they should have their own idea of how to work things and their own plan, and if some player goes "hey it'd be cool if" the manager would listen and consider what the player suggested.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

@Mystic- Not a slave tool, but a work force. Everyone needs to sit down for a good team building. It would seem mystic that you have never had a real job, because any job, in a game that you don't get money for working on, or at an actual job you get paid for, there still always is a boss. DA BOSS! So in our case, Thor, and sadly, Storm. Development is lead by DC, who is UNDER Storm and Thor. Thor and Storm should be creating the concepts, even DC, creating a structure as i type this, that is what should be going on right now. I doubt that it is, but all in all, Development is a staff division under DC, who is under thor and storm. GC, under Night, who is under Thor and Storm. Ranger, under those two, and Stryker, under those two. Really thor and storm could control all the divisions if they really wanted to, but that is quite the load to handle. So they have 4 people to do that for them.

So again, not a slave team, but a staff division/work force. Come on , you should know that.

Dev is a non paid work force. Your superiors really shouldn't order you around in that case. Getting paid is on a whole other level.

Also Manager's should make their decisions BASED on player opinion.

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Also Manager's should make their decisions BASED on the best course of design.

Fixed

[BlackSolider]

The people in power have to do what is best for the server. Obviously that is opinionated, but it should be easier to figure out if you get enough thoughts together and decide on something that will make the majority happy. After all, if the people aren't happy, then they aren't having fun and thus they don't have a reason to stay.

[Shadow87]

Mystic you obviously did not read what I said.

Paid or not paid, a manager is a manager, if he is not, then why the hell are we calling the dream team of thor and storm managers?

They are called managers because they manage the staff divisions and the server, i'll say it again, they should create the structure and basis, and its up to them to get that design down, get it going with the Dev admin, and then its Dev admins job to make sure the development team is working on time and meeting dead lines.

Sadly, for some reason, we are all against dead lines, people cry and moan when given them, even though they chose to sign up for the job. So i feel that is also a good reason we will never ever see anything good out of classic, ever, ever again.

And no, I do not care about their lives, I do not care what other lame crap they do or have to do, i do not care about their school either. If they signed up for the job, they should be prepared to do whatever it is they gotta do. If there was a good structure and design and plans for classic from the managers and dev admin, then it wouldn't be such a problem to give deadlines and have them met. And yes i do understand that its hard to replace people, but them tough ****, doesn't mean they don't have to work, if that's the case you are better off closing classic.