Observer Mode. - Page 6

DustyPorViva · #76 06-08-2008, 07:15 PM

I still think the old trial mode(no saving), minus the ghost mode, was the best way to do trials.

cbk1994 · #77 06-08-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I still think the old trial mode(no saving), minus the ghost mode, was the best way to do trials.

Yes, I agree. There are actually a lot of people who actively played Utopa with observer. It was only a nuisance they said, not worth upgrading for.

Some of these people held positions as gang leaders, or were very rich and played a LOT. These people would have upgraded for the most part without observer mode.

Elizabeth · #78 06-08-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

what pack?

gold & classic

kia345 · #79 06-08-2008, 11:43 PM

The first time I upgraded was because I was so tired of having to reset my outfit every time I logged on.

Perhaps a limit on the trial's outfits would be better than observer mode. Couple that with "p2p only" places like sparring zones. Give them a taste, but leave a lot to be imagined, rather than the current deal that shows all, just a sloppy version of it.

Maybe a unique "trial" class for Zone that only offers certain weapons. Or a trial island on Gk the provides more to do than the current one, but leaves you detached from the main island still.

Elizabeth · #80 06-08-2008, 11:52 PM

i dont think im going to reupgrade when its up in 26 days.

Spiker0 · #81 06-09-2008, 12:41 AM

Zone doesnt need anything anymore. I hope he jumps over to GK when he is done with Zone...

DustyPorViva · #82 06-09-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

Yes, I agree. There are actually a lot of people who actively played Utopa with observer. It was only a nuisance they said, not worth upgrading for.

Some of these people held positions as gang leaders, or were very rich and played a LOT. These people would have upgraded for the most part without observer mode.

That's the thing... the old trial system(minus the ghost, I emphasize this) did what it was supposed to -- gave players a preview of the game. The observer system does the same thing, but on a much more illogical level. All it does is benefit those who have the patient to wait(and there are a lot of people that will do anything just to get something for free), and annoy the hell out of those who don't. Not only that, it adds a whole dimension of complications with scripting, and ends up having its own dedicated time for debugging -- pointless.

Simply having a system that didn't save(but again, leave that ghost crap out of it... it was broken and really unnecessary) gives players a chance to see what they're getting. Add in a timer that disconnected them after a few hours of straight gameplaye(regardless of idle or not), to avoid people from idling and losing data, and you've got yourself a very simple, but effective preview system.

Admins · #83 06-09-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

Some of these people held positions as gang leaders, or were very rich and played a LOT. These people would have upgraded for the most part without observer mode.

Trial accounts are not supposed to get that, will need to speak with the server owner.

kia345 · #84 06-09-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Trial accounts are not supposed to get that, will need to speak with the server owner.

They wouldn't be able to if you went back to the way things were.

Sinkler · #85 06-09-2008, 07:28 PM

It annoyed me on no end when I tried an observer account.

cbk1994 · #86 06-09-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Trial accounts are not supposed to get that, will need to speak with the server owner.

Speak with me then.

Why not? They can play the game?

Perhaps if there were a set of playerworld rules?

And, like PoJo said, if it were back how it was, they wouldn't.

I don't believe in limiting the players like that; if they are able to participate in everything else, why should we limit them to positions as gang leaders?

Sure, it got annoying during gang raids, but none of the upgraded.

I think we even had some trial PRs.

EDIT: @sinkler: Sure, it may annoy you, but it is now possible to play a game you previously could not. It is very possible to play Era now and become rich on an observer account.

Sinkler · #87 06-09-2008, 07:33 PM

On ERA? Pfft, the Staff Members made the economy so bad that compared to America, we would be greatful to have Bush as President.

Observers should not be allowed to hold items or anything of the sort, they should be non-pkable and they can't PK they can only "Observe" Not "Play"

cbk1994 · #88 06-09-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

On ERA? Pfft, the Staff Members made the economy so bad that compared to America, we would be greatful to have Bush as President.

Observers should not be allowed to hold items or anything of the sort, they should be non-pkable and they can't PK they can only "Observe" Not "Play"

aka Ghost mode.

This failed miserably.

Players hated it, and it doesn't really show them the game.

It was fine as it was before v5, but without ghost mode.

Sinkler · #89 06-09-2008, 07:35 PM

Fine, no ghost mode, but they can't do anything ONLY observer.

DustyPorViva · #90 06-09-2008, 07:36 PM

Ya... no saving is the best idea! I'm going to keep repeating this!

edit: not being able to do anything? That's ghost mode... and it's retarded. Do you know how LOW the Graal population would drop if trials were completely gimped? It would be like... 20, total. How would you be threatened in the least by a player who can't even save their progress?