Chrismas, New Year and 2003 ! - Page 6

Googi · #76 12-21-2002, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by CheeToS2
how do you suppose they'll be able to detect who did it? Delete everybodies VIP accounts? Oh no!

Well, they can't post it on the forums, and if they tell people, they run the risk of being ratted out.

G_yoshi · #77 12-21-2002, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Googi

Well, they can't post it on the forums, and if they tell people, they run the risk of being ratted out.

Well, we don't exactly know if it that is correct or not, ok? So let's leave it at that until an official statement has been made.

unixmad · #78 12-21-2002, 10:30 PM

All this negative comments for what ?

Because we make a special VIP type of subscription:

* To let peoples use the Graal communication center without gold access (isn't it what you were asking before)
* Play on Gold servers all Saturday
* Play events organized by Linux Cyberjoueurs Staff (Konidias)
* Use new software freely (Graal 3D, we work on that since months)
* Be able to manage guilds and Player Worlds (Chong is rewriting all this software to make them more powerful and this cost money)

All that for less than the price of a cake each month! Then what's the problem ? If you don't want to be VIP then that's your choise but don't push other to do like you.

Asherons Call 2 cost $50 on shop and you have only 1 month of gameplay, On Graal you pay $19 and you play lifetime + you get 3 months of gameplay on all gold servers !

Then it's hard for me to hear all this complains, most of you play Graal each day more than 4 hours! Have you some idea of what cost the renting of 10 servers, the salaries of 4 peoples, the renting of a office in Paris?

We are putting all our energy to try to make old customers happy when most company will have focused on new market, it will be mush easier for us to just stop new features and publish Graal in Europe, Asia or make a completly new game.

It was a pleasure to work hard to give you all this new feature and now when i see all this complain it's really not worst the effort !

tlf288 · #79 12-21-2002, 10:35 PM

I totaly understand you unixmad. I just went and VIP access.

You better not jsut want to be greedy and make me waste my money

just kidding!

CheeToS2 · #80 12-21-2002, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by unixmad
All this negative comments for what ?

You've listed the pro's, we're only commenting on the cons :x

Loriel · #81 12-21-2002, 10:41 PM

I believe one of the problems is that the VIP type is pretty confusing, consisting of many different things.
Perhaps you should split it all into a modular subscription system... the basic thing is classic membership, and you get access to new things in a modular fashion.
Perhaps a player of a playerworld could decide to buy forum access and guild creation rights, but has no interest in the gold servers, graal2002 events or developement things.
On the other hand, someone with a gold account who regularly plays Graal2002 is in a kingdom, and has not need for guilds. Yet he currently pays for that, as well as for forum access he already has.
With a modular system, both persons could buy exactly what they want, and with a lot less confusion and complaints than there is now.

tlf288 · #82 12-21-2002, 10:43 PM

Are you people all pecimists (sp?)?

I think it must be easier to be negative on the internet because I have enver met this many negative people before

G_yoshi · #83 12-21-2002, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by unixmad
All this negative comments for what ?

Because we make a special VIP type of subscription:

* To let peoples use the Graal communication center without gold access (isn't it what you were asking before)
* Play on Gold servers all Saturday
* Play events organized by Linux Cyberjoueurs Staff (Konidias)
* Use new software freely (Graal 3D, we work on that since months)
* Be able to manage guilds and Player Worlds (Chong is rewriting all this software to make them more powerful and this cost money)

All that for less than the price of a cake each month! Then what's the problem ? If you don't want to be VIP then that's your choise but don't push other to do like you.

Asherons Call 2 cost $50 on shop and you have only 1 month of gameplay, On Graal you pay $19 and you play lifetime + you get 3 months of gameplay on all gold servers !

Then it's hard for me to hear all this complains, most of you play Graal each day more than 4 hours! Have you some idea of what cost the renting of 10 servers, the salaries of 4 peoples, the renting of a office in Paris?

We are putting all our energy to try to make old customers happy when most company will have focused on new market, it will be mush easier for us to just stop new features and publish Graal in Europe, Asia or make a completly new game.

It was a pleasure to work hard to give you all this new feature and now when i see all this complain it's really not worst the effort !

I hear ya. But it wouldn't hurt to keep in mind that Graal mostly consists of players under 17. Most of them are pretty much anti-whatever and think that anarchy is the best way to live life.

I would like to know more about the paying for playerworld thing. I sort of understand, but I sort of don't

Brad · #84 12-21-2002, 10:45 PM

We are just worried that us gold members will get screwed over.

G_yoshi · #85 12-21-2002, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Loriel
I believe one of the problems is that the VIP type is pretty confusing, consisting of many different things.
Perhaps you should split it all into a modular subscription system... the basic thing is classic membership, and you get access to new things in a modular fashion.
Perhaps a player of a playerworld could decide to buy forum access and guild creation rights, but has no interest in the gold servers, graal2002 events or developement things.
On the other hand, someone with a gold account who regularly plays Graal2002 is in a kingdom, and has not need for guilds. Yet he currently pays for that, as well as for forum access he already has.
With a modular system, both persons could buy exactly what they want, and with a lot less confusion and complaints than there is now.

Now that I could agree with. I only need PW and Forum stuff and that's pretty much it.

tlf288 · #86 12-21-2002, 10:49 PM

I don't think Linux Cyberjoueurs will 'screw us over'. I mean the are a profesional(sp) company. If they do 'screw us over' they can get sued and all that stuff.

Spark910 · #87 12-21-2002, 10:51 PM

So unix which account (not about prices) but will you get everying you can/more on. Gold or VIP

AlexH · #88 12-21-2002, 10:55 PM

Well gold gets us everything we have now but if we want to test stuff and here all the new ideas they are working on etc your gonna need VIP.
So I would say gold is better than VIP for playability.

Spark910 · #89 12-21-2002, 10:58 PM

Thats silly, Gold should have VIP Options too, as if gold is higher than VIP we should get previews and news too, as I want that, which mean I'd have to degrade my accnt? Woah...

G_yoshi · #90 12-21-2002, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910
Thats silly, Gold should have VIP Options too, as if gold is higher than VIP we should get previews and news too, as I want that, which mean I'd have to degrade my accnt? Woah...

VIP is an upgrade.

I do think it would be a better idea, possibly, to offer a small discount on the VIP upgrade for those that paid for a Gold account that isn't close to running out or something like that. Otherwise, if the account is near the end of its Gold run, they pay the $19 for the VIP upgrade.