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Old 06-06-2002, 10:09 PM
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It's the classic "I NEED ATTENTION" thing all over again. Birdbird has quit numerous times. What makes you guys think he won't come back YET AGAIN?
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:14 PM
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It's the classic "I NEED ATTENTION" thing all over again. Birdbird has quit numerous times. What makes you guys think he won't come back YET AGAIN?
Exactly, all he wants is power, popularity, and attention. I'm sick of it and I could care less if he returns at all.
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:15 PM
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Re: Resignation

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Bird if you have something to speak with Me or Stefan you can write a Email, we always reply, but please stop all this negative energy.

I can understand that after a while staff are weary but the best solution is not to speak in public forums but more to take some fresh air or speak directly to the person.

Even when you leave it's always better to do it nicely, you never known, perhaps in a near future you will come back and be happy to not have killed all you have done.

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Nice point made, thus why I always suggested crap like this not belong on the forums, that is not what it's for. Anyhow, it just forces everyone to pick sides. Those who want him back and those who don't care. Then it's a big clash, arguements insue, and all this and that.

Fact remains ever since 2k2 came out. I've caught bird what spending loads of time on 2k2 more so than 2k1, when something could of been in the worlds. But ******ok and JK II are more important to him right now.

Anyhow, I spend 3/4 of my free time working on graal, so thats just me. I know there isn't much payoff, but I still do it and won't whine if I'm ignored because eventually if you keep going someone will give you the time and when you get that time you make it count, rather than asking for something that won't benefit yourself, and where you work in the long run.

Bird, if you are truly gone, let this rest in peace. If not then I guess you will continue, sad but you know posting all this will just start all this talk back and forth, not worth it, considering the time you spent on 2k2 vs. 2k1, your points are not that valid, saying stefan doesn't care, when I was on 2k1 (under another account), and you weren't there, yet I'd go to 2k2 and you were working there. Go figure eh?
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:36 PM
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:39 PM
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It's the classic "I NEED ATTENTION" thing all over again. Birdbird has quit numerous times. What makes you guys think he won't come back YET AGAIN?
No, BirdBird is liable to return yes, but likely it will be very difficult to get Kamuii back to the second-in-command he was before, as well, I doubt Bird will even go back to 2K1, he might just want to put sole focus on 2K2.
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:43 PM
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End of world ono.

All of you can come here and kiss his ass all you like. Birdbird was not a nice person and I know this for a fact. You could think you were his friend and could talk to him about anything, and then he would just turn ******* again. I knew him since before he became popular. Back when he was a carpenter for Zulithe in Dustari. We became friends and he even wanted to start his own kingdom..Black Rose was it? I was the first to know about the UGlake project and he kept exclaiming aboiut how he might get FTP after Uglake and how it would be so much fun. Then he get rc...

After the arrival to RC in hs disposal, he began to talk to his friends less and less. You would pm him and either
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B) get something like :go away:
C) get a real answer (3%)

From there things went downhill with Birdbird and his "friends". You can see in that thread that was revived that Birdbird actually wasn't liked here on the forums. Then power comes and...WHAT? EVERYONES KISSING HIS ASS? To tell you the truth, I don't give a **** if he leaves or not. Good riddence.

When I got rc, I wasn't able to talk to friends anymore, let alone talk. I've told you this so many times before, and I don't want to say it again, you want to be the big shot and not see what really happend, be my Guest.


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Nice point made, thus why I always suggested crap like this not belong on the forums, that is not what it's for. Anyhow, it just forces everyone to pick sides. Those who want him back and those who don't care. Then it's a big clash, arguements insue, and all this and that.

Fact remains ever since 2k2 came out. I've caught bird what spending loads of time on 2k2 more so than 2k1, when something could of been in the worlds. But ******ok and JK II are more important to him right now.

Anyhow, I spend 3/4 of my free time working on graal, so thats just me. I know there isn't much payoff, but I still do it and won't whine if I'm ignored because eventually if you keep going someone will give you the time and when you get that time you make it count, rather than asking for something that won't benefit yourself, and where you work in the long run.

Bird, if you are truly gone, let this rest in peace. If not then I guess you will continue, sad but you know posting all this will just start all this talk back and forth, not worth it, considering the time you spent on 2k2 vs. 2k1, your points are not that valid, saying stefan doesn't care, when I was on 2k1 (under another account), and you weren't there, yet I'd go to 2k2 and you were working there. Go figure eh?
DO YOU HAVE ANY FIRGGIN IDEA HOW MUCH OF MY TIME I HAVE SPENT ON 2k1 WORKING FOR THE PAST YEAR?!
I was playing 2k2 more because I was able to work on it, and take a break from 2k1 for two weeks, when I came back to 2k1, it was the same, no one on the staff dared to touch anything, even if I did tell them to do a project. No one did their jobs.

My points are Compleatly Valid, I have every right to scream and rant about 2k2 and 2k1. No one cares of what I've done, no one wants to think about what I've done, so I'm done.

I'm ****ing sick of working my ass off on graal so I can be spit on even more by ****ing half minded swines.

Asuka, Get a guys name for Gods sake you ****ing Grade A Hypocrite.
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Old 06-06-2002, 10:59 PM
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Edited out, it's to late anyways now if Bird were to read it.
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:06 PM
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:07 PM
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When I got rc, I wasn't able to talk to friends anymore, let alone talk. I've told you this so many times before, and I don't want to say it again, you want to be the big shot and not see what really happend, be my Guest.
Thats a bunch of **** and you know it. Playing ra gn ar ok more than working on your own server is pure bullshit. You come on and say work was more important than friends. When you have the time to play a ton of other games, why not friends? Don't come here and lie your ass off to try to look cool, it wont work.
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:15 PM
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Thats a bunch of **** and you know it. Playing ra gn ar ok more than working on your own server is pure bullshit. You come on and say work was more important than friends. When you have the time to play a ton of other games, why not friends? Don't come here and lie your ass off to try to look cool, it wont work.
The past month I've blown off graal, because I was sick of it.
Before that, before the new year, all I did was work, all I did was waste my time away on 2k1 having fun in my mind. If I don't talk to you, maybe because I was too bussy, or because I just didn't want to? I don't know, Why can't you just accept that rather than making your own stupid theroy on it. I told you why, if you don't accept it, tough, its the truth, I based the work I did above my friends, even above most of my school work. I played stupid R.agnarok more becasue it was more fun than graal, and when Jedi Knight 2 came out, wow, somthing else to do besides listing to idiots ***** at me all day about thier problems! Brad, you know damm well what I've done, and if you're just fliping out on me doing a full 180 on me, than you have seriously, become a total jerk to me. Not enough that you cover everything up before with a smile, but now you have to backstab me too. You know all you're saying is Bull ****, why not admit to it. I know I'm telling the truth here.
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:16 PM
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DO YOU HAVE ANY FIRGGIN IDEA HOW MUCH OF MY TIME I HAVE SPENT ON 2k1 WORKING FOR THE PAST YEAR?!
I was playing 2k2 more because I was able to work on it, and take a break from 2k1 for two weeks, when I came back to 2k1, it was the same, no one on the staff dared to touch anything, even if I did tell them to do a project. No one did their jobs.

My points are Compleatly Valid, I have every right to scream and rant about 2k2 and 2k1. No one cares of what I've done, no one wants to think about what I've done, so I'm done.

I'm ****ing sick of working my ass off on graal so I can be spit on even more by ****ing half minded swines.

Asuka, Get a guys name for Gods sake you ****ing Grade A Hypocrite.
That's the biggest crock of ****. I did what I was told to do I finished that desert. You told me to give you 64 levels in two days I made 64 levels in two days. YOU said you would add the graphics. What happens? Nothing. I try to get it back from you weeks later so I can finish it since you didnt. What happens? Nothing. I had to get it from trueheat. I try to get graphics for it? Nothing again. I have to beg trueheat to make graphics because you didnt when you said you would. YOU said you would put the pyramids in it etc..? Nothing its not there. There is a big blank spot right now still waiting for those damn pyramids. Dont give me that **** about me not doing my job. I have done everything you asked for me. I cant do **** even if I dare which I would but I dont have **** except I can look at it. If I put something in that retarded Uploads folder it will sit there and never move again. Why have I not been on? Because I"m sick of doing **** or nothing. I make something. Nothing happens to it some one tells me they will get me something nothing happens. I'm sick of wasting my time for NOTHING!!! I have pilses of levels for g2k1 sitting on my desk top. Going to waste. Maybe I'll take my nothing and go some where else where I'm more appreciated. I mean you ***** about us not doing anything I cant do anything. I have almost no rights. I started the desert with out you telling me to because it needed done. What's this I dared to do something? That was the only thing I knew that needed done. Spanky said he was doing quests or something. So I cant think of anything else to do because you say you'll do somethign drag your ass never do it. So I do it for you with out being ask but yet I dont dare to do anything???? How dare you accuse me of such ****. When if it wasnt for me the desert wouldn't even have one level on it. :grrr:
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:21 PM
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Bird has done loads for 2k1.
He was was woking on a new GUI system which looked and sounded great but he couldn't get anyone to script it.
Some things he couldn't prevent like the new bodies which many people don't like. He himself doesn't like them.
He has added lots of stuff since he was manager and I think he has done a great job.
Yes there are lots of people on graal who like to complain about every little thing that happen and I can see why it can get to someone having people annoying you all day.
Even now when he has quit people are still bashing him.
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:22 PM
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That's the biggest crock of ****. I did what I was told to do I finished that desert. You told me to give you 64 levels in two days I made 64 levels in two days. YOU said you would add the graphics. What happens? Nothing. I try to get it back from you weeks later so I can finish it since you didnt. What happens? Nothing. I had to get it from trueheat. I try to get graphics for it? Nothing again. I have to beg trueheat to make graphics because you didnt when you said you would. YOU said you would put the pyramids in it etc..? Nothing its not there. There is a big blank spot right now still waiting for those damn pyramids. Dont give me that **** about me not doing my job. I have done everything you asked for me. I cant do **** even if I dare which I would but I dont have **** except I can look at it. If I put something in that retarded Uploads folder it will sit there and never move again. Why have I not been on? Because I"m sick of doing **** or nothing. I make something. Nothing happens to it some one tells me they will get me something nothing happens. I'm sick of wasting my time for NOTHING!!! I have pilses of levels for g2k1 sitting on my desk top. Going to waste. Maybe I'll take my nothing and go some where else where I'm more appreciated. I mean you ***** about us not doing anything I cant do anything. I have almost no rights. I started the desert with out you telling me to because it needed done. What's this I dared to do something? That was the only thing I knew that needed done. Spanky said he was doing quests or something. So I cant think of anything else to do because you say you'll do somethign drag your ass never do it. So I do it for you with out being ask but yet I dont dare to do anything???? How dare you accuse me of such ****. When if it wasnt for me the desert wouldn't even have one level on it. :grrr:
WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO WITH YOUR INFOMUS 70 LEVEL DESERT?! OH, SOMETHING THAT COULD OF BEEN DONE WITH A LEVEL GENERATOR!! OH MY, 70 LEVELS OF RANDOM DIRT LINKED, WITH A SMALL HALF ASS TOWN!! NOT SOMETHING I WOULD UPLOAD IN A HEART BEAT, WOW, WHAT A THOUGHT! AND AS FOR YOUR MIGHTY WORK ON 2k1?! YOU DONT NEED A TRUCK LOAD OF RIGHTS TO CLICK, GRAAL, TRAINING, F4 TO MAKE A LEVEL AND SUBMIT IT. WOW, WHAT A CONSEPT! IF YOU WANTED TO HELP 2k1 YOU WOULDn'T OF SAT ON YOUR HANDS SAYING YOU CANT DO JACK OR EVEN SUGGEST SOMETHING, THINK ABOUT IT OH MIGHTY HANDYCAPED ONE.

YOU WERE HIRED AFTER NEW YEARS, SIMPLY BECAUSE I REQUESTED THE SEWER LEVELS FROM YOU, WOW! AFTER HAVING TO FIX EVERY DAMMED NPC IN IT, I HIRED YOU BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU COULD HELP WITH 2k1's LEVELS! NOT SIT ON YOUR HANDS AND SING THE DO DO SONG OF DOOM! YES!
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:29 PM
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You dumb ass. That was 64 levels of desert because its the only desert tiles I had. Because YOU wouldnt make your ****ing graphics that your promised for months to. You havn't seen it lately with all the graphics added in and tiling worked on when I was given more than 10 hours total to work on it you try making 64 levels in 10 hours and see how well you do it. After I got sick of waiting on your ass I got Trueheat to give me the graphicsfor it. Seeing as How I was waiting for ever on your notorious non existant pyramids. I went through and edited the levels you know what **** it I quit. You dont need any of the stuff I had made. What you steal all my providence levels then have me make some sewers for 2k1 because I deleted those before you could steal them too. It's your job to manage. You dont manage any thing. People can only do so much initiative. If you would stop saying oh I"m to busy to look at desert. You would have seen how much they had changed from the time you saw them with 10 hours of work in it total.

I dont need FTP to make levels. But to fix tile errors I'm not going to sit around with 50 levels on my hard drive with just fixing a few tile errors here and there.
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Old 06-06-2002, 11:31 PM
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You dumb ass. That was 64 levels of desert because its the only desert tiles I had. Because YOU wouldnt make your ****ing graphics that your promised for months to. You havn't seen it lately with all the graphics added in and tiling worked on when I was given more than 10 hours total to work on it you try making 64 levels in 10 hours and see how well you do it. After I got sick of waiting on your ass I got Trueheat to give me the graphicsfor it. Seeing as How I was waiting for ever on your notorious non existant pyramids. I went through and edited the levels you know what **** it I quit. You dont need any of the stuff I had made. What you steal all my providence levels then have me make some sewers for 2k1 because I deleted those before you could steal them too. It's your job to manage. You dont manage any thing. People can only do so much initiative. If you would stop saying oh I"m to busy to look at desert. You would have seen how much they had changed from the time you saw them with 10 hours of work in it total.
NO ONE WOULD SCRIPT THE FRIGGN PYRIMID QUEST FOR ME AFTER I ASKED THE SCRIPTERS< AND OTHER OUTSIDE HELP FOR OVER A MONTH, I THREW MY HANDS UP AND GAVE UP.

And like I said, it was 64 levels of crap, I thought I could upload soemthing, if you couldn't of done it in that period of time, you should of told me, not give me some **** on a platter.
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