Suggestions thread (Formerly: We're listening...)

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by salesman

It is for gangs...if you are in the gang, you can use the weapon via the gun rack.

Oh, I see. So let's say I'm on Zorbi Krew, I walk into our base, grab a Ak47 off the rack...and it's mine until I put it back?

[salesman]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Oh, I see. So let's say I'm on Zorbi Krew, I walk into our base, grab a Ak47 off the rack...and it's mine until I put it back?

Yeah, or log off, get removed, etc.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by salesman

Yeah, or log off, get removed, etc.

Oh dat's kinda cool. I don't have to buy guns anymore!

Every gang can have it's own set of guns.

[Frankie]

there's so much drama with gang guns because the whole concept is retarded. it's just an excuse to give a select few players an overpowered weapon. then there are issues with balancing these weapons and one gang might be at a disadvantage because their gang gun isn't as good as the others.

gang guns should be removed. in my opinion, they cause more problems than good.

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Frankie

gang guns should be removed. in my opinion, they cause more problems than good.

They were removed...now people are crying to get them back.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by salesman

They were removed...now people are crying to get them back.

of course they are, lol. they are all (usually) overpowered, and now with this gun rack idea, they'd be free. who wouldn't want free overpowered weapons? I didn't know they were removed, but still my point stands. definitely do not bring them back.

[kia345]

What's stopping you guys from being logical and giving each gang's guns identical stats?

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by kia345

What's stopping you guys from being logical and giving each gang's guns identical stats?

Maybe not identical but equal.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Maybe not identical but equal.

There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.

Well then, make them identical with different skins, the kids won't even notice!

[hunterhunk]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

There is not an easy way to determine if two guns are equal or not.

You are right, because if Black Holst has a 25 damage gun, Blazian Bandits either want a 25 damage gun or a rigged 20 damage gun.

Here is what I was thinking for gang guns:

Say Black Holst has the Adv. Black Holster

Damage: 25
Fire Rate: .20 (Semi-Auto)
Freeze: .14
Spread: 0
Clip: 8 or 12.

Say Blazian Bandits has a 20 damage rifle

Damage: 20
Fire Rate: .25 (Auto)
Freeze: .08-.10
Spread: .08
Clip: 32

These seem fairly close to even, it really just depends upon player preference. If you change 1 gun (buff or nerf) you should do the same to the other gang weapons.

A lot of times people *****ed about how the BHer or the Colt6 were rigged, but that's because players learned how to use the weapon. Players actually learned the strengths and weaknesses of the weapon.

Another thing, you can't bring back gang guns and give them the same stats. If you're going to bring them back, they need to be different from each other. There would be no point to give a gang the same exact gun as another gang with the only difference being in the image and name.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by kia345

What's stopping you guys from being logical and giving each gang's guns identical stats?

that's a pretty lame way to solve balancing issues. might as well make every gun on the server the same since staff can never find a perfect balance for them, right?

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Frankie

that's a pretty lame way to solve balancing issues. might as well make every gun on the server the same since staff can never find a perfect balance for them, right?

No, people work for their overpowered guns. If the gang guns are free, they should be just as good as the other gang's.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

No, people work for their overpowered guns.

just another reason to not give gangs gang guns. it wouldn't be fair for the people that have to work their ass off to buy good weapons. we shouldn't be giving a select few people on the server an advantage simply for being in a gang.

[Crono]

noob protection or no PK mode

[iRedemption]

Add the gun racks...they'll be fun as hell to use and it's something new. Alot of you guys always worry about what could go wrong, and how unfair/rigged things might be...and maybe you're right but when you think like that NOTHING ever gets done and Era loses it's players.

p.s chris could just trade the gun racks between the two gangs every few weeks nubs.

[Cubical]

One of the biggest problems in my opinion is that a majority of the guns cannot be bought in the stores which is daunting to new players who realize how much it cost to buy them from other players. I'm constantly getting PM asking where to buy guns that are currently unobtainable through shops. I'm not saying all guns should be in shops but a majority of them should be available to the players.

[Dnegel]

Originally Posted by Cubical

One of the biggest problems in my opinion is that a majority of the guns cannot be bought in the stores which is daunting to new players who realize how much it cost to buy them from other players. I'm constantly getting PM asking where to buy guns that are currently unobtainable through shops. I'm not saying all guns should be in shops but a majority of them should be available to the players.

And they shouldn't cost over $100.000.

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by Dnegel

And they shouldn't cost over $100.000.

Yeah, that's why cross server trading and USDing is so prominate. I don't know many people who have the motivation or will power to work for that much money. It's the same way with Kingdoms, many people just do not want to spend hundreds or even thousands of hours to get a decent weapon/gear set.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Cubical

Yeah, that's why cross server trading and USDing is so prominate. I don't know many people who have the motivation or will power to work for that much money. It's the same way with Kingdoms, many people just do not want to spend hundreds or even thousands of hours to get a decent weapon/gear set.

Which brings me to another problem Era shares with GK.. Newbie ignorance. They think, just because it's common, that a flaming sword is not an acceptable sword for use. I PK with one.

On Era, using an uzi is a more than acceptable way to PK as well.

[Cubical]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Which brings me to another problem Era shares with GK.. Newbie ignorance. They think, just because it's common, that a flaming sword is not an acceptable sword for use. I PK with one.

On Era, using an uzi is a more than acceptable way to PK as well.

I never said it wasn't an acceptable way to PK. Just because something is acceptable doesn't mean it should be one of the few options you have. People like having cool looking guns. GK is one of the worst examples of good gameplay if not the worst example I have ever seen. I think everything should be able to be realistically obtainable with the exception of just a few choice items. Look at zodiac for instance and their player count in comparison to the rest of the servers. You can obtain almost anything in a reasonable amount of time except for just a few items and players like that. If zodiac were to make drop rates insanely low it probably wouldn't draw as many players in because they feel like they would have to just work way to hard to obtain something they want.

You also have to think that Kingdoms entire allure is trading rare items which are obtained from either thousands of hours of strenuous grinding, USD, scamming or cross server trading. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor which is partially how era currently is. With more items available it would even out the gap between the poor and the rich players as the items would not be worth as much while also keeping players around. Pat, I know you know how much time I have put into GK so I hope you know that this is just not an observation but more of something I have experienced first hand.

[iRedemption]

it was so fun to PK on trials to the point where that's all everybody did for awhile...you got free ammo, cash, and uzi/ak

[KrimsonSky]

Has anything changed [for the good] since 10-17-2009 when this was brought up?

O.o.. seriously, I have no clue what goes on anymore =|

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by KrimsonSky

Has anything changed [for the good] since 10-17-2009 when this was brought up?

O.o.. seriously, I have no clue what goes on anymore =|

There are many. Gang points have been fixed, gun racks implemented, a secondary/primary system is working on debug, PK timers, ...

[KrimsonSky]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

There are many. Gang points have been fixed, gun racks implemented, a secondary/primary system is working on debug, PK timers, ...

Damn, sounds like its going along great :|

Well gratz on the improvement, wish I still played =(

Keep up the good work.

[Logababy]

Yeah, quests that are more rewarding.

[Supaman771]

Amsel: We all want that, the increase in gameplay, and all that jazz. But right now they're concentrating on fixing what we have in order to reset without further bugs/duping so we don't end up in the same position like previous resets. After which I highly doubt they could produce such things in any given period of time. (How long since they said were going to reset and how long until we will actually do it..?)

But yeah, everything you said sounds awesome.

[cbk1994]

Small update,

I'm speaking with Stefan now and will have the gelat shop up soon with observer mode taken down. The gelat shop will sell:

• Vitality Potion - Extra 10 HP for a week
• Worker's Potion - Increased speed of mining, flower picking, and shell digging (more shells and less crabs) for 24 hours
• Lightweight Potion - No weight reduce and move at the speed of a cap for a week.

Purchasing any of these will give you the item in-game. The items cannot be traded/dropped. You can purchase 10 vitality potions at once, for example, but you will only be able to use one at once. Similarly, you could purchase a "worker's potion" today and wait until tomorrow to use it.

I don't think any of these are going to provide major advantages against players who do not wish to pay for them, but if anyone has any objections now is the best time to give me them, as well as any other ideas.

As much as I don't want how much a person is willing to spend to determine their success on Era, a gelat shop is necessary to get rid of observer mode. The items I've laid out shouldn't make a huge difference in the way Era works.


Also, frag grenades have been released. You can purchase them from Fort Knox.



The shrapnel both causes damage and can wound players.

[Donark]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Vitality Potion - Extra 10 HP for a week

So will it be possible to have 160 hp for those who have the bounty hunter bonus?

[FantasyX]

I have a couple suggestions on what to do about cookies;

They've become a pretty big problem for both gangs exploiting how quickly you can heal and how you can eat one right before death and come back to life when someone kills you.

Suggestions;
-Put a timer on when you can use them (similar to the timer of being revived after you've already been revived recently). Maybe make it so you can only consume 1 cookie every 5 minutes?
-Disable them in gang bases. Although this isn't very favorable, it at least makes the player leave their base in order to consume the cookie.
-Disable them on gang-tag. This, of course, would be the worst option, but it also requires the person to go off gang-tag in order to use them.

I prefer the first option, honestly.

[salesman]

tl;dr: If not cookies, it will be something else...all you will accomplish in the end is to remove something that creates a great deal of entertainment for a lot of players.
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Something to consider before you make everything fun in the game useless...

I owned a food business back when food was changed from working like cookies (instant health) to heal-over-time, so I personally saw how much of a difference that change made, and it wasn't all good.

Instant heal:

• Pro: Food businesses were poppin' off, and everyone wanted to work there.
• Pro: I made a ****-load of money
• Pro: Huge money sink (50% tax usually)
• Pro: Pking was more exciting (in my opinion)
• Pro: Reason to make money, and spread out/pk on the gmap
  • Everyone used to carry A LOT of food on them at all times in order to keep up with everyone else. Because of this, players were always spending money. To spend money, you need to go out and make it first. Boring, yeah, but from making money came competition and pking. Parties were formed to control certain areas on the beach or areas with the best flowers, and people pked.
• Con: Pking could be very, very lame when food was abused

Heal-over-time:

• Pro: Pking is more fair
• Con: Food businesses are pretty much useless, and believe it or not, food businesses were fun for a lot of people
• Con: Removed one of the server's biggest money sinks
• Con: Raiding and pking are less exciting (in my opinion)
• Con: People still find ways to have an unfair advantage, so what did it solve?

To be more specific, messing with cookies is going to do more than just make raiding "fair", and the consequences are something that need to be considered. For example, I'm sure a lot of people join every event they can just to get two more cookies. With cookies useless, they might not even bother joining events anymore.

Cookies probably do a need to be balanced a little bit, but don't go overboard to the point where they become useless.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Donark

So will it be possible to have 160 hp for those who have the bounty hunter bonus?

Yes.

[cbk1994]

I've added a 60 second timer between cookie uses. I don't think this will cripple them too much.

[emoman]

I liked the other unstick me, I forget who was manager at the time but it was just a square green little park in the center.

[Logababy]

Originally Posted by emoman

I liked the other unstick me, I forget who was manager at the time but it was just a square green little park in the center.

How long ago was that? :O

[emoman]

Originally Posted by Logababy

How long ago was that? :O

I think it was maybe during Smu era ? I'm most likely wrong but it didnt last for a long time. It was pretty small and was always populated

Graal Ghetto (lol) had it for it's duration too.

[cbk1994]

I didn't mind the smaller bushed-in unstick me but I don't see any reason the go back to it. The current one is nicer.

[Donark]

too bad it's summer and the player count didn't rise -_-, or not enough for a third gang in my opionion

[Robocop300]

Take a page from Salesman's book and try doing something like removing all that timer bull**** on healing items.

You've done step 1 by redesigning the way HP is earned in the game, redesign the way healing is done and remove the timers.

Era seems to lose what once made it so fun to play once all these "features" and innovations come into play to try to make the server much more balanced. In reality all that's needed is:

-fair prices on weapons - all (save for a very, very, very, very limited few weapons - PL9 Log. for example) should be available equally to all players.

-healing restrictions removed

-the weight system scrapped - let's take it back to the old school times where you were able to carry about 9,999 of Kuji's hacked ammo boxes.

-revive limitations removed

-weapon taglocks removed

-new plan for southridge, houses aren't needed for ****. make SR the quest island, or provide different pay in terms of digging/flower picking, etc.

-rebuild the highway leading up to chukungai (the northern part of Era that is forgotten) and make that northern portion the industrial part where weapons can be bought among other things

-give people a speed of 1.13 in game ~ 14/16 px per tile.

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Create a backup of the current server and at the very least attempt the "no-healing-timer" crap on the server for a day or two. You'd be surprised to see the activity on many fronts rise for Era.

[cbk1994]

Observer mode has been removed. We will have some 4th of July celebrations later tonight.