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Old 09-10-2012, 09:34 AM
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Let me make a short point: Why not Steam? You know how games can coexist on Steam and Desura, right? I never spoke negatively of Desura. I know the platform and I do like it, but there is no point not going for Steam.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:12 PM
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Desura (nobody cares about indie games) and Steam (people only like it because of Minecraft) are complete garbage, Graal should be on Origin.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:20 PM
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Steam (people only like it because of Minecraft) are complete garbage, Graal should be on Origin.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:00 PM
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we both know origin is the superior platform, why else would EA put BF3 on it?
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:06 PM
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:06 PM
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:45 PM
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:19 PM
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Why not Steam? You know how games can coexist on Steam and Desura, right? I never spoke negatively of Desura. I know the platform and I do like it, but there is no point not going for Steam.
How about except that Graal's content of gameplay is so subpar, a game like ROTMD (I believe it's very good, don't start spitting fire everyone) can be far superior to Graal, which has this working for it:

1. Creative freedoms of making your own world, game, whatever (Something that Minecraft is beloved for, obviously cant commit copyright infringement and other legal no-nos) Which is a lot to say as a game for sandbox style enjoyment.

2. Ability to create WHATEVER KIND OF GAME YOU WANT, meaning, you have the potential to appeal to all kinds of players, Want shooters? We got that covered, Want an RTS? We could have that ready to go with effort, Want to play a card game? ****, Classic has Triple Triad from FF8, we could have UNO and many other addictive card games in a lil while, Want a RP game? Valikorlia obviously is able to provide a sorts to this craving, Want an RPG? Well, dependant on the RPG style, if you want an MMORPG, I guess Zodiac can cover you, want a traditional RPG? Classic has you covered, Want seriously... ANYTHING ELSE? Just make it. It's obviously not as easy as speaking it, but its not impossible.

Yet somehow, ROTMD which is a mmo bullet-hell RPG, will win against Graal as it is right now 99/100 times, will succeed over Graal, that 1 time is in a bizzaro universe where Graal actually succeeded on its own and didn't need steam in the first place, also Stefan is king of the universe and (You get where I'm heading with this)

tl;dr: Graal has no chance for Steam because its content is incapable of satisfying people, let alone actually passing the voting process.
I was actually more or less saying what I said because you were saying that linkrulz4's points were invalid. But I will say that yes, the game could easily live between more then one platform, if anything it's obviously better, but I'm speaking strictly on Steam with Graal and why Graal is that trashy girl that Steam's friend's (community) would say "Dude, she's so the wrong for you, dude, she has tried to get with every dude around here, she even tried to get me, man!" at this time.

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My question is this to those who are hard-set on Graal with Steam: If this was something ready to happen, how will we make it ready for the show? Because Greenlight for players is a shooting gallery for the observers, they can shoot and knock it 1100 different ways if they want to, which on its own is a negative for any game potentially going up to greenlight, how would we sell the idea to people and make them want it? how would we make it happen? Because I can say without a doubt that it wouldn't work because our content isn't up to par at this time.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:23 PM
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I don't want to deny that Graal lacks a certain level of quality for Steam. It still makes a nice goal, though. Shoot for Steam. It might eventually end up there.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:45 PM
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Graal doesn't need Steam. It needs to run side by side with the iServers. It would be one of the few multiplayer games you can play on multiple platforms.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:10 AM
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It'd be pretty darn cool. Problem is we've all been saying it since there were rumours of iGraal... we can keep saying it but it won't make a difference until Stefan or Unixmad weigh in on the topic.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:35 AM
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It'd be pretty darn cool. Problem is we've all been saying it since there were rumours of iGraal... we can keep saying it but it won't make a difference until Stefan or Unixmad weigh in on the topic.
It's already possible through v6 and it is how staff log on the two iServers. iClassic has its iDevice and PC spar statistics seperated, ripe and ready for the picking.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:39 AM
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It's already possible through v6 and it is how staff log on the two iServers. iClassic has its iDevice and PC spar statistics seperated, ripe and ready for the picking.
Yea, I've tried it before when iClassic first came out - works flawlessly. There has to be a reason it hasn't been released, makes me curious...
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:49 AM
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It's already possible through v6 and it is how staff log on the two iServers. iClassic has its iDevice and PC spar statistics seperated, ripe and ready for the picking.
I'd like to point out that using v5 or v6 doesn't matter in order to logon the iOS servers. I've used both for Era iPhone multiple times.

I've said this in some other thread, but the main reason iOS was originally separated was because it used a different account system, which isn't the case anymore.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:40 AM
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It actually does matter, since iOS is a modified version of v6. The reason is simple though, keep everyone running the same version, v6. It makes scripting easier and I don't have to make multiple versions just to support v5.

To the average player though, they don't care.
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