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Old 05-13-2012, 08:09 AM
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I've been hearing from quite a lot of new players lately that they've not been receiving gelats after completing these offers.
I didn't get Gelats for many of mine.
Kind of sad... probably should have had around 3000, but what I did have was around 900?, a bunch of spam, and someone send mail to my house about car insurance. :[
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:10 AM
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I didn't get Gelats for many of mine.
Kind of sad... probably should have had around 3000, but what I did have was around 900?, a bunch of spam, and someone send mail to my house about car insurance. :[
Why would you give them your address?
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:23 AM
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:24 AM
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Why would you give them your address?

Honestly I used the street name, but another houses number.
In short... they found me; it was redirected. :[

It only happened once though.. and the email was old.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:19 PM
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The logs show:
SMS/Phone transactions for xXziroXx:
2012-04-09 20:56:12: 400 Gelats added on login1 (U Login)

SMS/Phone transactions for Devil_Lord2:
2012-02-12 10:08:21: 19 Gelats added on account_CujoDaMan ()
2012-02-12 18:58:09: 63 Gelats added on unholy (Unholy Nation)
2012-02-12 19:04:20: 10 Gelats added on unholy (Unholy Nation)
2012-02-12 19:10:16: 38 Gelats added on unholy (Unholy Nation)
2012-02-12 19:36:08: 749 Gelats added on account_CujoDaMan ()
2012-02-12 19:37:40: 63 Gelats added on account_CujoDaMan ()
2012-02-21 05:53:05: 437 Gelats added on unholy (Unholy Nation)
2012-05-16 08:07:09: 35 Gelats added on unholy (Unholy Nation)

The system is basically that when you complete a survey or so then SuperRewards contacts Graal and we add the Gelats. If they don't contact us then we don't add Gelats. Is it possible that some offers are tricky or they are tricking SuperRewards, in that case it can be good to complain to SuperRewards. Sorry for such problems, but it's basically a way to get things for free and they want something in return, either some info, doing some advertising, or selling some other product.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:46 PM
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Does a player have to be online for it to work?

I just opened the link from:
http://www.graalonline.com/zone/stores/upgrade

I noticed the account identification worked by the account I was logged in as on GraalOnline.com being provided within the url, but my account is not logged into a Graal client. Or would the server name being within those logs just be un-necessary information in this case?

Edit: Just worked for me.

Also I thought it was funny that I tested a video offer for 3 Gelat, for the sake of taking the least amount of time, but only received 2 .

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Old 05-16-2012, 10:14 PM
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Does a player have to be online for it to work?

I just opened the link from:
http://www.graalonline.com/zone/stores/upgrade

I noticed the account identification worked by the account I was logged in as on GraalOnline.com being provided within the url, but my account is not logged into a Graal client. Or would the server name being within those logs just be un-necessary information in this case?

Edit: Just worked for me.

Also I thought it was funny that I tested a video offer for 3 Gelat, for the sake of taking the least amount of time, but only received 2 .
I don't normally do superrewards stuff but did the one you did happen to have a limit of 8?

Time: Wed May 16 10:48:13 2012
ffcmike got 3, total 3
Time: Wed May 16 10:55:27 2012
ffcmike got 3, total 6
Time: Wed May 16 11:01:13 2012
ffcmike got 2, total 8
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:20 PM
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I don't normally do superrewards stuff but did the one you did happen to have a limit of 8?

Time: Wed May 16 10:48:13 2012
ffcmike got 3, total 3
Time: Wed May 16 10:55:27 2012
ffcmike got 3, total 6
Time: Wed May 16 11:01:13 2012
ffcmike got 2, total 8
I'm pretty sure I watched 3 different videos, all of them supposed to award 3 Gelats. Not that I'm complaining, it was just a test.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:30 PM
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:35 PM
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I just checked it again and 2 of the video offers I saw earlier are now gone.

There is however a new one called "Seduction lesson # 9 : GSpot".
What was that new PWA rule again?
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:42 PM
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No porn? wth, STEFAN, COME LOOK

Just to clear a couple things up and see how many people decide to spam my inbox with hate mail.

1. Classic subscriptions are never removed just because you upgrade the account. Removal is not an automated process. Stefan would have to do it manually and unless we request he do so it rarely happens.

2. Sharing/selling/trading/giving away accounts is enforced to the best of our abilities. Due to the time involved to research each account, I normally will only check on those that have had reports on them. Some instances of sharing turn out to not be sharing at all which usually leads to even more people complaining about it which takes even more time to reexplain why its not shared.

3. While I personally would love to see lifetime accounts exist again I do understand why they were removed. "Waits for the usual 'greed' response" If anyone were to think deeply enough they would realize that Graalians themselves caused the ultimate demise.

We bought our accounts and for the most part never paid for Graal again. Only those that played the gold servers ever bothered to pay. Some of us bought a few accounts so we could have alternate identities or bought one for a friend but still, never paid again. After a few years those accounts were handed down to others. Sometimes several others. Those people never paid either. Now people are buying said accounts for USD outside of Graal so they can have a classic account. Once again, Graal receives nothing for this transaction and in many MANY cases the owner is actually selling his account to several people but then claiming the account was stolen and getting it returned to him since he is the one able to prove ownership.

Graal cannot run on air, Stefan works pretty much 7 days a week for Graal and must also pay bills and eat to survive. Unixmad considers this a business (which it is) and deserves and income for it. The rule of thumb for most businesses is, "If you don't see a profit in 5 years, shut it down."

4. If you want to get into the whole volunteering thing I have an answer for that as well. We continue to do it so its still our own fault. If you don't want to work for free then don't take a staff job. While I do think it would be in the company's best interest to have paid staff that isn't what we are here to debate.

For those of you who actually took the time to read my rant, I thank you and will happily accept your hate mail now .
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:07 PM
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:18 PM
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We bought our accounts and for the most part never paid for Graal again. Only those that played the gold servers ever bothered to pay. Some of us bought a few accounts so we could have alternate identities or bought one for a friend but still, never paid again. After a few years those accounts were handed down to others. Sometimes several others. Those people never paid either. Now people are buying said accounts for USD outside of Graal so they can have a classic account. Once again, Graal receives nothing for this transaction and in many MANY cases the owner is actually selling his account to several people but then claiming the account was stolen and getting it returned to him since he is the one able to prove ownership.
S&S's decision to remove purchasing of lifetime Classic hasn't really solved the problem though, if anything it's made newer players even more desperate to obtain these accounts, and more profitable for that small minority of account sellers.

A less punishing solution to the problem would be to provide a price and format which is affordable and worth purchasing to a higher number of potential players.
I can think of 3 different ways they can go about this:
  1. Make lifetime Classic subscription purchasable again.
  2. Reduce the price of Gold.
  3. Bring back temporary Classic subscription at a lower price than Gold.
(There is a notable exception concerning the idea of "free to play", but it seems fairly clear to me there's a big misunderstanding as to what this term actually means)

Sadly I suspect a movement will be made to eradicate lifetime accounts completely, this would solve this particular problem, but with everything else staying as it is, would also heighten the severity of another one: lack of talented developers and reliable server staff. Considering this is still a player made game, there would definitely be an indirect financial impact over time.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:14 AM
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