Best Player Of Zone - Page 5

Dante55555 · #61 12-03-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

i think someone has a crush on siwin :P

Don't tell Becky.

bahamutstevetff · #62 12-03-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555

Don't tell Becky.

hmmm ill try keep quiet :Z

Aldaris · #63 12-04-2008, 06:33 AM

This is opinion based, and let's remember, most Graal players do not judge a player by their purest skill - they mix in popularity and all of that junk.

Let's be real here, who was the actual best? Well, you have to look at pure dominance. You can't fight in a small pond of players, and lay claim to being the best (This is targeted to all the people suggesting, IxI, Typhoon, and Ace were the best).

StormY IMO is the absolute best. He fought in a large pond, an ocean in fact. He was the best in Zone's "Golden Age" of players. After Hayashi died off, and most of the veterans quit, Zone was a much easier server to become the "best" on. Argue or not, it's the truth.

I also noticed that many people (As I stated above) who are popular, will receive more votes for the "best" position.

Argue with me if you must, but various players (Some of whom no one has mentioned yet) would defiantly be ranked high in Zone's all-time "best" list. RealDDC, Gambet, Muroku (SC?), and Touya were amongst the elites.

Although I do personally believe that Tao and Gambet become bigger than they actually were (Skill wise). Muroku was very underrated by many, and he was a solid player. Touya was a killing machine back in the day. He didn't play for stats, but if you challenged him to a spar you would of probably lost. RealDDC was an amazing player if I recall. I never got along with him during my stay on Zone, but I always respected the dude because he never let his skill get to his head.

Anyways, that's just my take. Nobody here is going to agree.

You can have your little "Fan Clubs," but that doesn't mean who you worship is actually the best.

Knightmare1 · #64 12-04-2008, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris

This is opinion based, and let's remember, most Graal players do not judge a player by their purest skill - they mix in popularity and all of that junk.

Let's be real here, who was the actual best? Well, you have to look at pure dominance. You can't fight in a small pond of players, and lay claim to being the best (This is targeted to all the people suggesting, IxI, Typhoon, and Ace were the best).

StormY IMO is the absolute best. He fought in a large pond, an ocean in fact. He was the best in Zone's "Golden Age" of players. After Hayashi died off, and most of the veterans quit, Zone was a much easier server to become the "best" on. Argue or not, it's the truth.

I also noticed that many people (As I stated above) who are popular, will receive more votes for the "best" position.

Argue with me if you must, but various players (Some of whom no one has mentioned yet) would defiantly be ranked high in Zone's all-time "best" list. RealDDC, Gambet, Muroku (SC?), and Touya were amongst the elites.

Although I do personally believe that Tao and Gambet become bigger than they actually were (Skill wise). Muroku was very underrated by many, and he was a solid player. Touya was a killing machine back in the day. He didn't play for stats, but if you challenged him to a spar you would of probably lost. RealDDC was an amazing player if I recall. I never got along with him during my stay on Zone, but I always respected the dude because he never let his skill get to his head.

Anyways, that's just my take. Nobody here is going to agree.

You can have your little "Fan Clubs," but that doesn't mean who you worship is actually the best.

I have a question... who the hell are you?

RevolutionJS · #65 12-04-2008, 08:38 AM

Aldaris, Read the name from the poster Its left above on his post.

Huwajux · #66 12-04-2008, 11:47 AM

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Big post

Wow, I don't know who you are, but I like you.

RealDDC probably didn't let it all go to his head because he was in his 20s when he played.

bahamutstevetff · #67 12-04-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris

Let's be real here, who was the actual best? Well, you have to look at pure dominance. You can't fight in a small pond of players, and lay claim to being the best (This is targeted to all the people suggesting, IxI, Typhoon, and Ace were the best). .

what do you mean by cant fight in a small pond of players?

Nightmare · #68 12-04-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Aldaris, Read the name from the poster Its left above on his post.

i know that, smartypants. im just wondering how hes known all this information when in my 2 years playing i have never seen his account name.. he is very smart apparently.. a second Huwajux? O.o

Dante55555 · #69 12-04-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris

StormY IMO is the absolute best.

He was without a doubt in the top 5, I agree.

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RealDDC, Gambet, Muroku (SC?), and Touya were amongst the elites.

Agreed.

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Although I do personally believe that Tao and Gambet become bigger than they actually were (Skill wise).

I suppose everyone got overrated in Old Zone, even Storm.

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Muroku was very underrated by many, and he was a solid player.

I never liked him after I beat him in spar to join Hayashi and he stuck me in Infantry. Which, at the time, I understood was super low rank. But whatever, the past is past.

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Touya was a killing machine back in the day. He didn't play for stats, but if you challenged him to a spar you would of probably lost. RealDDC was an amazing player if I recall. I never got along with him during my stay on Zone, but I always respected the dude because he never let his skill get to his head.

You should come back on Zone for a bit, you'll probably see DDC. He plays again now.

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Anyways, that's just my take. Nobody here is going to agree.

Everyone has their own opinion. I like how you stood your ground and stated it rather than going with the flow. :]

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I have a question... who the hell are you?

An Oldbie.

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i know that, smartypants. im just wondering how hes known all this information when in my 2 years playing i have never seen his account name

Because 2 years is, seriously, a long time.

bahamutstevetff · #70 12-04-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare

i know that, smartypants. im just wondering how hes known all this information when in my 2 years playing i have never seen his account name.. he is very smart apparently.. a second Huwajux? O.o

in my 4-5 years playing ive never seen him either, im assuming its not his first acct.

Aldaris · #71 12-05-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

what do you mean by cant fight in a small pond of players?

What I mean by this (And I don't mean to offend anybody), is this:

When Ace was dubbed "the best," he wasn't in a good league of players. If I can recall, most of the oldies and legends had quit before Ace ever gained his fame. Now, am I calling him a bad player? No, I think he was a fantastic player. He stood out for a reason, but I honestly can't compare him and StormY. StormY had to outshine the likes of Silos, Huwajux, Touya, Jin, Muroku, FireBoX, Jesse, RealDDC and others (Sorry if I didn't list you).

As far as IxI and Typhoon being the best, I can't vogue for this. IxI was always a good player, but I'm not sure if he was/is "best worthy." Typhoon was decent when I played with him, but when he got really good I had already quit, so I can't really recall what he was able to accomplish.

And no, this is not my first account. If you must know, ask me. However, I do not think that it is a valid subject that contributes to this topic.

jkool666 · #72 12-05-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris

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Your obviously Jin.

Dante55555 · #73 12-05-2008, 01:35 AM

Aldaris made an EXTREMELY good point that I've never even considered. I want to kick myself for missing something so crucial to proper judgement, yet so obvious:

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When Ace was dubbed "the best," he wasn't in a good league of players. If I can recall, most of the oldies and legends had quit before Ace ever gained his fame. Now, am I calling him a bad player? No, I think he was a fantastic player. He stood out for a reason, but I honestly can't compare him and StormY. StormY had to outshine the likes of Silos, Huwajux, Touya, Jin, Muroku, FireBoX, Jesse, RealDDC and others (Sorry if I didn't list you).

If I had read this a few years ago, by the way, my ego might have made me flip out. Luckily I've grown up a LITTLE bit since then so I don't mind you not mentioning me.

I can't remember how good I actually was, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't that amazing anyway. I was all talk most of the time xD

Shadow5596321 · #74 12-05-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

Your obviously Jin.

I'm willing to bet on that.

I say that's Trojan.

bahamutstevetff · #75 12-05-2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris

What I mean by this (And I don't mean to offend anybody), is this:

When Ace was dubbed "the best," he wasn't in a good league of players. If I can recall, most of the oldies and legends had quit before Ace ever gained his fame. Now, am I calling him a bad player? No, I think he was a fantastic player. He stood out for a reason, but I honestly can't compare him and StormY. StormY had to outshine the likes of Silos, Huwajux, Touya, Jin, Muroku, FireBoX, Jesse, RealDDC and others (Sorry if I didn't list you).

As far as IxI and Typhoon being the best, I can't vogue for this. IxI was always a good player, but I'm not sure if he was/is "best worthy." Typhoon was decent when I played with him, but when he got really good I had already quit, so I can't really recall what he was able to accomplish.

And no, this is not my first account. If you must know, ask me. However, I do not think that it is a valid subject that contributes to this topic.

yeah good point, i started playing when storm was becoming easy, and ace was the best, i got on even level with ace then he quit and i hardly ever got a challenge, who knows if all the newer good players started from the beginning maybe things would be different

but in my case, ive never even seen siwin or firebox etc fight good