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Old 09-10-2008, 09:19 PM
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The Graal engine needs more work methinks. It's not very good encouragement for scripting when the engine never gets updates to add features that would be useful. Of course, there are often serverside updates but that is not good enough, there needs to be client updates too.

Being able to draw tiles over players has been requested for forever and it hasn't been done yet. If Graal wants players to make quality servers it needs to provide quality tools, not stuff that is never updated like the level editor and RC. If Stefan would just give us an API to work with then stuff would come a lot easier. Either that or hurry up and finish the external scripted windows.
I agree. Especially about giving an API to us.
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Old 09-10-2008, 09:21 PM
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well at the rate the prices will be going up in the next few years, i dont think it'll have many players anymore.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:00 PM
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I don't see why everyone doesn't come together and make a server.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:35 PM
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I don't see why everyone doesn't come together and make a server.
Because the ideas about the server would differ too much.
It would be impossible to get a common denominator.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:18 AM
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Because the ideas about the server would differ too much.
It would be impossible to get a common denominator.
And common skills.
Everyone's different.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:38 AM
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Everyone comes up with these "great" server ideas. They never even make it to the hosted server. It seems like common sense to band together and create the perfect server.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:45 AM
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Everyone comes up with these "great" server ideas. They never even make it to the hosted server. It seems like common sense to band together and create the perfect server.

Kay, go recruits some people that are 10 yrs old and that just discovered internet, teach them, take them in the band, AND GOGOGO !
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:45 AM
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Everyone comes up with these "great" server ideas. They never even make it to the hosted server. It seems like common sense to band together and create the perfect server.
I agree, it would be the perfect statue dedicated to mediocrity. In its hands, the statue would hold a fi****l of ripped pieces of paper representing fragmented ideas and concepts.
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:10 AM
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Coming together to make a good server is not impossible, it simply requires someone who's good at managing a development project and inspiring people to join in.

As far as the API goes, methinks Stefan should create a DLL that parses GS1 or GS2 script. The DLL would provide callbacks that your program would use to know when to load a tileset or a gmap or do something else. That way none of the GS2/GS1 meat would be revealed.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:35 PM
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Coming together to make a good server is not impossible, it simply requires someone who's good at managing a development project and inspiring people to join in.

As far as the API goes, methinks Stefan should create a DLL that parses GS1 or GS2 script. The DLL would provide callbacks that your program would use to know when to load a tileset or a gmap or do something else. That way none of the GS2/GS1 meat would be revealed.
Such a great idea
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:42 PM
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Kay, go recruits some people that are 10 yrs old and that just discovered internet, teach them, take them in the band, AND GOGOGO !
I don't development I'm just saying I've seen some good developers but they're all working on something different.
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:22 PM
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I don't development I'm just saying I've seen some good developers but they're all working on something different.
I think forming a great development is difficult unless you have a group of close friends that can help benefit each area. Also, all of those people would need the same interest in building a server, such as some may want the original Classic Graal, a Modern Server, or RPG server.

Some people like to be recognized for their work as well, and then there's some that like to help out and develop. But you also have to realize that the community isn't helping either. Those who want to create a server are creating it for the complainers.

For example, if you've played Zodiac, you probably would've noticed that its impossible to please everyone.

Stefan doesn't want to create a Classic Server because he's more interested in Graal Kingdoms and possibly future Graal 3D.

You see what I mean? And no one is getting paid to develop a server. You're paying TO RENT/DEVELOP a server. You think anyone wants to sit in MSPaint and GraalEditor.exe all day? No, they would rather chat on RC.
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