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Old 12-14-2006, 04:12 AM
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I don't disagree with you at all Andy.

Lack of commucation with all parties on this subject is a major problem, and destructive within itself.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:24 AM
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Well, do you think we should differentiate between classic/hosted/private rulebreakers? There are probably several cases this is appropriate, but which do you think are?
In my opinion, the rules should be the same for any PW that players have access to. Players do not deserve to be abused, or banned for no reason because of different rules.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:54 AM
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In my opinion, the rules should be the same for any PW that players have access to. Players do not deserve to be abused, or banned for no reason because of different rules.
The differences are much smaller. Obviously a player shouldn't be abused anywhere. But take bans for instance: On a classic server it would be inappropriate to ban somebody because they were bothering you. However, if you paid for a server to develop on, and you don't want to deal with some kid being a nuisance then why not give em the boot?
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:57 AM
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However, if you paid for a server to develop on, and you don't want to deal with some kid being a nuisance then why not give em the boot?
If a person is annoying to the point of harrassment, then I can see it, but I have seen PW's at times ban someone because they don't like them, or because they get mad at someone, or stupid reasons like that...that is what I am saying.
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:00 AM
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If a person is annoying to the point of harrassment, then I can see it, but I have seen PW's at times ban someone because they don't like them, or because they get mad at someone, or stupid reasons like that...that is what I am saying.
True, a lot of PW renters are immature about their space, but they paid for it. Isn't that their right if a player goes above and beyond to annoy them? Now, if they were representing Graal as either Classic or Hosted it would obviously require the staff to brush it off and be mature about it.
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:01 AM
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If a person is annoying to the point of harrassment, then I can see it, but I have seen PW's at times ban someone because they don't like them, or because they get mad at someone, or stupid reasons like that...that is what I am saying.
They pay for the server, while under private listing, I'm sure they should be able to ban whoever they wish.

If said server ever makes it to classic, then there is a problem right there.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:00 PM
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True, a lot of PW renters are immature about their space, but they paid for it. Isn't that their right if a player goes above and beyond to annoy them? Now, if they were representing Graal as either Classic or Hosted it would obviously require the staff to brush it off and be mature about it.
I wasn't talking about someone going above and beyond to annoy them. I was talking about just banning someone because you don't like them or something dumb, or abusing them with staff weapons.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:11 PM
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:42 AM
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Personally I don't see the need for limiting certain access levels or editing of rights to a certain person or a certain number of people. As long as a reasonable level of account security is maintained, there's no reason to impose such limits. Whether or not something can feasibly be accomplished with this number of RCs or that number of RCs is irrelevant; in the end, it's up to the people in charge of the playerworld to deal with staffing issues, etc.

I realize that the intention of these limits is to eliminate some of the power abuse issues/removal of levels due to uncontentedness with whatever/destruction of playerworlds/etc, however, being selective about who is hired and carefully picking and choosing who gets access to what will accomplish that just as effectively, and, in the end, if someone is ill-placed in a particular position or abuses rights that they weren't trustworthy enough to receive in the first place, that too falls back to the playerworld management and a seriously needed adjustment in the hiring/consideration process.

*** EDIT: This is not to say that I condone 50 level 4 RCs or everyone on the playerworld having the ability to reset attributes or anything of the sort, I just think that, within reason, staffing issues should be decided by the people in charge of the staff.
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:03 AM
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:56 AM
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I had thought to add this, but wasn't sure whether or not I was going to. In any event, I agree.
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:10 PM
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That's just dumb :/

It's like me saying "ok kids its recommended to wear safety glasses here but if you get chemicals in your eyes IM NOT HELPING U NOOB LOL OWNED!!"
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:57 PM
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That's just dumb :/

It's like me saying "ok kids its recommended to wear safety glasses here but if you get chemicals in your eyes IM NOT HELPING U NOOB LOL OWNED!!"
More like saying "Don't touch the chemicals" and they proceed to play with and spill the chemicals all over the floor. Then they come running to me and tell me I have to pick up the toxic shards and give them MORE checmicals to play with.
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More like saying "Don't touch the chemicals" and they proceed to play with and spill the chemicals all over the floor. Then they come running to me and tell me I have to pick up the toxic shards and give them MORE checmicals to play with.
No my example is better. D:!
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