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Old 07-16-2003, 02:32 AM
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I think, maybe i'm wrong, but to me and maybe Moon Goddess too, if that person had sworn and cussed you like he did me, you would have done something because what he said was uncalled for.
Unixmad said zero tolerance for sexual harrasment, i pointed that out, and got cussed at and sworn at and called names and you did nothing.
Yet im sure if someone did that about something you pointed out you would have acted immediately.
If i'm wrong i apologize.
But i dont apreciate stating something made rule by our so called *owners* and getting sworn at over it.
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:41 AM
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Guys, you also have to realize that a female was harrassed sexually. To them its 23094823438 times worse if it happened to a guy. Its the truth and everyone knows that. Signas was just plan wrong in what he did. He broke rules but he isn't getting the full punishment. To bring up an old thing that happened before. Inphektid, he was globally banned for calling someone "***." What signas did is worse in my opinion but he gets off easy. Something doesn't add up right.
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:51 AM
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Unixmad said zero tolerance for sexual harrasment, i pointed that out, and got cussed at and sworn at and called names and you did nothing.
No. you pointed out that unixmad has a 0 tolerance rule aginst sexual harasment and that signas should be banned. then i pointed out that it was bot a very severe case of sexual harasment and then go off and start saying that i disreguard the rules. and then you try and belittle me by asking "what planet did you wake up on today".

and then you say that i am the one taht "cussed and swore at you"?

look lady, if you want people to be nice to you, maybe you should try and not attack them.
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Old 07-16-2003, 04:26 AM
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Lol thx yea i think era should make a new jail and make an npc for it i know chrisz can do it, lol make the guy mine 10000 rocks if he wants to play bad enough he will do it and just simply make a new level and have a simple window of how many rocks he has, once he has his max rocks to get out of jail make him goto some give it to some guy npc and he gets out 1000 wouldent take that long to mine at all so 10000 would be a good #. It would be really good it would teach you not to do it again because its a pain in the butt to do that work, and im sure after you did that you would lern your lesson not to do it again infact all servers should and also have a record that you have been jail and what not. and if its repeated once more then make it like 100000 rocks after that perment ban:o
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Old 07-16-2003, 05:54 AM
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...i pointed out that it was bot a very severe case of sexual harasment ...

It was a very severe case of sexual harassment. What was said is filthy and such things make Graal look bad. Instead of being ignored they should be removed.
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:05 AM
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Uh, Geno....if you will look Tifa was replying to Kai, not you...and I dont believe she was even talking about you either.

How you can say that it wasnt a bad case of sexual harrassment is beyond me, it was disgusting. If it were me, he would be banned from my server, and I would be pushing for a global ban....we dont need people who say those things to other people playing, they have total disregard for the rules, and total disrespect for people
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:24 AM
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Lol thx yea i think era should make a new jail and make an npc for it i know chrisz can do it, lol make the guy mine 10000 rocks if he wants to play bad enough he will do it and just simply make a new level and have a simple window of how many rocks he has, once he has his max rocks to get out of jail make him goto some give it to some guy npc and he gets out 1000 wouldent take that long to mine at all so 10000 would be a good #. It would be really good it would teach you not to do it again because its a pain in the butt to do that work, and im sure after you did that you would lern your lesson not to do it again infact all servers should and also have a record that you have been jail and what not. and if its repeated once more then make it like 100000 rocks after that perment ban:o
SL used to have a jail where you had to wash so many dishes (as many as the staff set for them to do) until they could get out. If I could find the backup for it, I would bring it back. It was actually more fun to me than a punishment, but hey.

But, I think he should get the punishment he is getting now is fine, and a perm. ban if it happens again. What he said is sick, and to say it isn't, isn't really logical. You could be taken to court for sexual harrasment and defametory comments for saying that to someone.
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Old 07-16-2003, 08:11 AM
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Kai, if this thread is legal, and you arent closing it, why are you busting my chops for posting in it?
It's not illegal, but your warped interpretation of the rules would normally say it is. I merely asked, out of curiosity, what factor made you grant Seara immunity to the rules.



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I think, maybe i'm wrong, but to me and maybe Moon Goddess too, if that person had sworn and cussed you like he did me, you would have done something because what he said was uncalled for.
You're talking about Geno? You were the one who started the fight, how can you complain about him perpetuating it? And I asked him to be less retaliatory, didn't I? What more do you want? Do you expect me to ban him for this one offense?

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Yet im sure if someone did that about something you pointed out you would have acted immediately.
I would reply, but I wouldn't use any of my powers unless the person had an unacceptable tendency to make such posts. Geno isn't raising hell all over the forums, so I let it slide.



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Uh, Geno....if you will look Tifa was replying to Kai, not you...and I dont believe she was even talking about you either.
If I understood her correctly then she was referring to Geno. If not then I have no idea what she's talking about.
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Old 07-16-2003, 08:19 AM
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How you can say that it wasnt a bad case of sexual harrassment is beyond me, it was disgusting. If it were me, he would be banned from my server, and I would be pushing for a global ban....we dont need people who say those things to other people playing, they have total disregard for the rules, and total disrespect for people


i am saying it was not severe becuase all he did was send some text to her. severe would be pysicly touching her. or sending graphical images.
now don't you think Grabbing Someones Behind is worse then saying some bad things?
i doubt that it caused seara pain to hear these words.

to sum it all up you asked how can i say it is not severe., i just want to know how these words are so severe. did they leave a bruse on your arm? do they cause you to loose sleep at night?
i understand that it is WRONG and aginst the rules. but i just don't see it as a banable offince.


and to kai, i'm sorry about calling her an idiot, but she offinded me when she said that i have no respect for the rules. in my opinon it was a even blow. i just get carried away and defend fire with fire, sorry.
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Old 07-16-2003, 08:28 AM
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He just didnt send it to me, He massed it out, so now all that had mass on read it, those were just 2 that he send to forum, he send more after that,, I get stuff like this all the time but this was the worst of them all.
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Old 07-16-2003, 10:19 AM
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take him to mines im telling you!!!
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Old 07-16-2003, 11:07 AM
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take him to mines im telling you!!!

Um... your 17 and you act like a little child grow up...
Ok, the idea would be ok but see mining wont stop him, like I said he would get off for about a week or so then come back PM a stuck in jail because of a big. If it got this many peoples attention he should be banned
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Old 07-16-2003, 11:29 AM
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yea this guy should be banned but for like a new thing no you dont just get stuck in this jail a staff would have to put you in there and you could get out once you did all the qwork and staff could easily check if you had done the work or if that not to even bother staff make a simple npc that knows once he is done his mining 10000 rocks or whatever the amount maybe he can be warped back to the startpoint and also his account should be reset that would teach a good lesson , man you wanna sit on the computer all day for a week to mine 10000 minerals or more and you know how boring that would be? thats my point it would work great, guess only bad part is he could go to anotuer server and be the same way. bu tother servers could do some sort of jail work job also, i red in the forums earlier about they used to have to do a certain amount of washing dishes..
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:31 PM
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i am saying it was not severe becuase all he did was send some text to her. severe would be pysicly touching her. or sending graphical images.
now don't you think Grabbing Someones Behind is worse then saying some bad things?
i doubt that it caused seara pain to hear these words.

to sum it all up you asked how can i say it is not severe., i just want to know how these words are so severe. did they leave a bruse on your arm? do they cause you to loose sleep at night?
i understand that it is WRONG and aginst the rules. but i just don't see it as a banable offince.


and to kai, i'm sorry about calling her an idiot, but she offinded me when she said that i have no respect for the rules. in my opinon it was a even blow. i just get carried away and defend fire with fire, sorry.
The sexual harrassment here IS severe verbally. A person does not have to physically touch another person to sexually harrass them, or for it to be deemed severe. Sexual harrassment is sexual harrassment, whether it be physical or verbal. Dont sit there and say how someone else should feel about text. I personally do not wish to see crap like that from a child....it is a very uncomfortable feeling, and trust me, we arent playing this game to have that kind of feeling on a daily basis.

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what factor made you grant Seara immunity to the rules.
I didnt...you stated this thread isnt against the rules, so how did I grant her immunity? I am not going to go around to these threads anymore and state that they need to be closed, and if I feel like replying to the thread, then I will do so, if you dont like it, too bad....warn me, ban me, or just shut up and leave me alone like I have done with you. It isnt against the rules for me to post in a thread that it should be closed, and it also isnt against the rules for me to NOT post in a thread that it should be closed, nor is it illegal for me to post in a thread that you as a supermod deem appropriate to leave open (even though it clearly breaks the rules) should I choose to reply to it. When I do something illegal, then feel free to warn me, otherwise dont make a thread go off in a different direction attacking me...I have left you alone and gone a different route instead of posting arguements to you here, I suggest you do the same
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Old 07-16-2003, 08:29 PM
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Hmm... I think they should just jail the offender until he apologizes and the female accepts.. thats what some do. so it could range from 5 min to a life time.
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