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Old 07-09-2003, 02:04 PM
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Interesting, I've found 5 and someone else on the team (with whom I work closely) must have found at least 10 by now, as he told me that he had 7 a couple days ago.
Of course, you could both have found the same bugs, or these "bugs" may not be true bugs but merely scripting errors, which is what the GST is for.

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Errm, no offence or anything, But can't players do the same thing?

"There's a bug Oh Mr. RC, this is what it is!"
Sounds like a grab for the title if you ask me.

Anyone here remember ART on 2001? Haven’t we learned our lessons yet?
Yes, but they seem to be under the illusion that this is a more efficient way to find bugs than the standard methods. It appears that at least 8/10 people will disagree with them however. My only problem with it is the name mainly. I don't think they will be productive, but they should not have global in their team name. Also, if the job is to find bugs, then why is it called "Global BETA Testers"? The name of the team does not fit the job (especially since the only things that appear to actually officially be a beta are 3.x and playerworld hosting).
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Old 07-09-2003, 02:35 PM
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You guys are bug testing on v3.0. Why not just let EVERY VIP (that plays v3.0 all the time, I don't cause of all the bugs) submit bugs instead of just a select few, seems better that way instead of the people you recruited being egotistical and what not thinking they are staff when they really aren't.
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Old 07-09-2003, 03:15 PM
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You guys are bug testing on v3.0. Why not just let EVERY VIP (that plays v3.0 all the time, I don't cause of all the bugs) submit bugs instead of just a select few, seems better that way instead of the people you recruited being egotistical and what not thinking they are staff when they really aren't.
This is what is supposed to already be occuring...Hence one of the reasonings behind the uselessness of this team.
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Old 07-09-2003, 03:23 PM
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Interesting, I've found 5 and someone else on the team (with whom I work closely) must have found at least 10 by now, as he told me that he had 7 a couple days ago.
Guy, just RavenTevlecho found over 30 bugs and sent me them...
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Old 07-09-2003, 03:25 PM
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Guy, just RavenTevlecho found over 30 bugs and sent me them...
Of course, you fail to tell us what are considered "bugs" and where they were found.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:00 PM
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Of course, you fail to tell us what are considered "bugs" and where they were found.
Indeed, i fail for one reason: I have no need to show you, or anyone else than Stefan.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:01 PM
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Guy, just RavenTevlecho found over 30 bugs and sent me them...
I like that you didn't even try to counter the points I made in my last post at all.

And yet again, what's to stop anyone else from sending you bugs? Or sending Stefan bugs? Or sending anyone who has debug access bugs? Or posting them in the aptly named Bugs Forum?

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Indeed, i fail for one reason: I have no need to show you, or anyone else than Stefan.
Then your claim of 30 bugs could be simply made up. Or, they could be really small things (as in a misspelling of a word perhaps). Or, they could be bugs that have already been submitted/posted.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:03 PM
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I like that you didn't even try to counter the points I made in my last post at all.

And yet again, what's to stop anyone else from sending you bugs? Or sending Stefan bugs? Or sending anyone who has debug access bugs? Or posting them in the aptly named Bugs Forum?
Why should we stop them?
And i didn't see your points..

They can post/flood the emails as much as they want, but what's the chance of getting answered? 1/100?
What's the chance of our begin answered, when i got live chat with stefan and unix? 1/2?
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:05 PM
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I like that you didn't even try to counter the points I made in my last post at all.

And yet again, what's to stop anyone else from sending you bugs? Or sending Stefan bugs? Or sending anyone who has debug access bugs? Or posting them in the aptly named Bugs Forum?



Then your claim of 30 bugs could be simply made up. Or, they could be really small things (as in a misspelling of a word perhaps). Or, they could be bugs that have already been submitted/posted.
Well, i know for a fact, they all are bugs, and no small bugs.

You don't need to know that they are real or not, if many people know the bugs, more people exploit and abouse them, so we keep them for our selves.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:18 PM
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Why should we stop them?
And i didn't see your points..

They can post/flood the emails as much as they want, but what's the chance of getting answered? 1/100?
What's the chance of our begin answered, when i got live chat with stefan and unix? 1/2?
Forums.
Other Debug Users.
Forum PMs.

And cool, your pretend staff team can keep bugs to themselves so only they can exploit them! ^_^
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:19 AM
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Forums.
Other Debug Users.
Forum PMs.

And cool, your pretend staff team can keep bugs to themselves so only they can exploit them! ^_^
-Forums.
Flooding the forums wont help..
-Other Debug Users.
I got the idea, not other debug users.
-Forum PMs.
Flood PM inbox.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME: WE DO NOT PRETEND TO BE STAFF. WE ARE NOT STAFF, NOR DO WE THINK WE ARE.

Idiot.
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:42 AM
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-Forums.
Flooding the forums wont help..
-Other Debug Users.
I got the idea, not other debug users.
-Forum PMs.
Flood PM inbox.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME: WE DO NOT PRETEND TO BE STAFF. WE ARE NOT STAFF, NOR DO WE THINK WE ARE.

Idiot.
So its just a guild which tries to report a lot of bugs.
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:49 AM
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-Other Debug Users.
I got the idea, not other debug users.
that's the point though, anyone who finds a bug can tell any person with debug and it will get across just as fast....
there doesn't need to be a team dedicated to telling only you..
it's just pointless
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:41 AM
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I just read this whole thread.
I quit the team. I find it pointless, still. I just noticed how pointless it was with all of the points Tseng and others made.
Tyrial, your arguing is pretty pathetic. Tseng's dishing out damage with good points, as you just call him names.
Leave me out of this. *runs away*
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:47 AM
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i don't have the time to read this whole thread, becuase i just looked at some of it and noticed half of it was just arguing
so did tyreal put together this team? or is it actully a real team support by staff so they can test stuff :0?
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