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Old 03-17-2002, 02:09 PM
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Pff, sure, nice statement considering that pretty much the aim of American football is to run across a line with the ball. Where the English use skill and finesse to get the ball around an opposing player, Americans just grab it and try to ram through them. There's a reason why American football is only enjoyed by Americans: No other nation is obligated by ownership to pretend to like it.
Too damn many people overlook the linemen and the practice they must do. It's not simply ramming people. You have to be at the right place at the right time to block the defence and clear a path for your QB. Not all plays do linemen just ram a person, some may require them to take a 90 degree turn, move back in a U shape, or even step back. If you never played American football you have no business insulting it. Training is much more rigorous.
When I get out of the stance and block someone, it takes the same "skill and finesse" to exert as much of their momentum as humanly possible into driving their opponent back and to get as much control to stop him from resisting or from driving you back.
It's like a circus act, it looks easy, but it takes a lot of practice, and that's why I play it, I like the challenge of playing a sport where I do not just have to increase agility to be better, I have to practice the plays and lift weights.
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Old 03-17-2002, 03:59 PM
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Not all plays do linemen just ram a person, some may require them to take a 90 degree turn, move back in a U shape, or even step back.
That sounds about as complicated as walking down a street.

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If you never played American football you have no business insulting it. Training is much more rigorous.
Inherently? Don't make stupid statements; the training is as rigorous as the players want to make it, regardless of the sport.

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When I get out of the stance and block someone, it takes the same "skill and finesse" to exert as much of their momentum as humanly possible into driving their opponent back and to get as much control to stop him from resisting or from driving you back.
Mm-hmm. I very much doubt it. Throwing yourself into a person doesn't require skill, only weight and muscle.

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It's like a circus act, it looks easy, but it takes a lot of practice, and that's why I play it, I like the challenge of playing a sport where I do not just have to increase agility to be better, I have to practice the plays and lift weights.
And yet increasing bulk isn't the same thing as increasing skill. You can beef yourself up as much as you like even if you're completely untalented, but the ability to actually control a ball like good footballers do? That's something you have to be born with. The fine precision exhibited in English football does indeed make the American version look like a circus act - a bunch of clumsy clowns running around making people laugh.
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Old 03-17-2002, 04:10 PM
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That sounds about as complicated as walking down a street.
Now now, we can't expect too much from the Americans.

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The fine precision exhibited in English football does indeed make the American version look like a circus act - a bunch of clumsy clowns running around making people laugh.
I'll agree with that statement.
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Old 03-17-2002, 04:36 PM
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Im not a fan of football (American football) So i wouldn't konw a touch down from a hole in one, the game itself make absolutly no sence though,.
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Old 03-18-2002, 03:08 AM
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Mm-hmm. I very much doubt it. Throwing yourself into a person doesn't require skill, only weight and muscle.
It takes skill to control the person and take him where you want him to go while he's trying to get you out of his way to go to the quarterback. Have you ever seen the players practice, coaches have to nag about even the smallest mistake because the smallest mistake can ruin the play. There are a lot of small details about every play. You have to know what step to take, the snap count, and who you're gonna hit, it's not just simply plowing into the person in front of you. You have to get your hands in the right place, take small steps, and keep your feet as close to the ground as you can when you step. Any small error can spell disaster. You have to get your hands in the right place in a matter of seconds, and if you need to go somewhere rather than blocking, you gotta get there fast because your quarterback is going to follow you. Whenever I read your comments, I know that they are coming from an idiot who knows nothing about the sport and doesn't play any sport. The idiots watching a game only see 2 people ram each other, but the linemen that hit each other know much more is involved than just strength, one could drive back a stronger person if they do what they need to in order to gain control. [sarcasm] But who am I to say it involves more than just hitting someone, I'm only the athlete who practices 5 days a week and hears the coach telling everyone about how they messed up with one of the smallest details involved in blocking someone. [/sarcasm]
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Old 03-18-2002, 03:11 AM
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The fine precision exhibited in English football does indeed make the American version look like a circus act - a bunch of clumsy clowns running around making people laugh.
Fine precision? LOL it's just a bunch of idiots running around like chickens w/ thier heads cut off kicking a ball around.
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Old 03-18-2002, 03:16 AM
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Cricket and Bowling are two completly different things! That's like comapring school with sleeping!
what? theyre not the same?
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:01 AM
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You just kinda like knock down stuff with a ball... thats why it seems so related.
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:10 AM
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Too damn many people overlook the linemen and the practice they must do. It's not simply ramming people. You have to be at the right place at the right time to block the defence and clear a path for your QB. Not all plays do linemen just ram a person, some may require them to take a 90 degree turn, move back in a U shape, or even step back. If you never played American football you have no business insulting it. Training is much more rigorous.
When I get out of the stance and block someone, it takes the same "skill and finesse" to exert as much of their momentum as humanly possible into driving their opponent back and to get as much control to stop him from resisting or from driving you back.
It's like a circus act, it looks easy, but it takes a lot of practice, and that's why I play it, I like the challenge of playing a sport where I do not just have to increase agility to be better, I have to practice the plays and lift weights.
hey Im on the line. offense and defense. Do you know about the "rip and dip" technique?
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:13 AM
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kaimetsu:
I am 14, I play varsity football. I am supposed to keep 300 pound 17 year olds from getting my quarterback and I cant wrap him up or Ill be called for holding. Tell me that just takes bulk again?
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:17 AM
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english football also takes much skill dont get me wrong.
But any wrong turn and you could be checked in the stomache and being dogpiled. sound fun?
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Old 03-18-2002, 05:15 AM
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hey Im on the line. offense and defense. Do you know about the "rip and dip" technique?
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Yeah, but only the defence does it
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Ive thrown out peoples elbow with that =D
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Old 03-18-2002, 12:58 PM
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agression, it's what wins games.

Heh, I'm surprised Kaimetsu hasn't commented on my remark about english football being just idiots running around like chickens with their heads cut off kicking a ball around the field.
People who watch a sport can say whatever the hell they want to, and those who play that sport can know they are *****s who don't know what the hell they are talking about
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you dissin' mah american pride foo?! I oughta bust a cap up yo' ass
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