Mafia Life, live the life.

[DeCeaseD]

Alright, let me clarify things up to this point. As far as the bodies.. when Izzy says "RP" I think he's going a bit out of context as to what the actual concept behind having them is. Really, it's not trying to "limit" anyone or say that someone can't have or do whatever. We're merely defining our own personal looks for the server, so that things don't get all weird looking and have a bunch of odd looking characters running around pretending to be a mafia family.. with the body system, there really aren't any limits what so ever, they are actually THE most extensive/customizable bodies on Graal to date. With this, you're basically ensured that none of your characters will look exactly alike (Unless of course, you want them to.). Really it all comes down to personal opinion on whether you like them or not, and if you wouldn't play the server just because of that than so be it.

To address Jerrets issues with the monopoly effect, it is really something we're going to have to go to the playground with and see how well the slide slips, and the see-saw rocks. We have some rather well planned out systems for how things will work which in the end will take a little tweaking and tinkering of course, but in the end should hopefully work out for the best.

We're not trying to clone or even compare to Era in any way, I mean yes.. there will be guns, and yes.. there will be a lot of killing with guns, but that doesn't mean we're imitating Era.. are we using the same style as Era in regards of game play? Yes, but that's just how things are. Really there isn't much besides guns and killing you can base a Mafia server around, so what do you expect? All in all.. we're just hoping to make a fun server that people will enjoy and or respect. If not, well than at least we had fun trying.

PS: Sorry for any mis-communications Izarius may have brought to this thread.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by DeCeaseD

Alright, let me clarify things up to this point. As far as the bodies.. when Izzy says "RP" I think he's going a bit out of context as to what the actual concept behind having them is. Really, it's not trying to "limit" anyone or say that someone can't have or do whatever. We're merely defining our own personal looks for the server, so that things don't get all weird looking and have a bunch of odd looking characters running around pretending to be a mafia family.. with the body system, there really aren't any limits what so ever, they are actually THE most extensive/customizable bodies on Graal to date. With this, you're basically ensured that none of your characters will look exactly alike (Unless of course, you want them to.). Really it all comes down to personal opinion on whether you like them or not, and if you wouldn't play the server just because of that than so be it.

it's so customizable that i can't wear a fish-head and be apart of the fish-head-mafia

sounds lame

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Hiro

sounds lame

Sounds like having a decent idea of what they want the server to be.

[IzariusRyudo]

Originally Posted by DeCeaseD

Alright, let me clarify things up to this point. As far as the bodies.. when Izzy says "RP" I think he's going a bit out of context as to what the actual concept behind having them is. Really, it's not trying to "limit" anyone or say that someone can't have or do whatever. We're merely defining our own personal looks for the server, so that things don't get all weird looking and have a bunch of odd looking characters running around pretending to be a mafia family.. with the body system, there really aren't any limits what so ever, they are actually THE most extensive/customizable bodies on Graal to date. With this, you're basically ensured that none of your characters will look exactly alike (Unless of course, you want them to.). Really it all comes down to personal opinion on whether you like them or not, and if you wouldn't play the server just because of that than so be it.

To address Jerrets issues with the monopoly effect, it is really something we're going to have to go to the playground with and see how well the slide slips, and the see-saw rocks. We have some rather well planned out systems for how things will work which in the end will take a little tweaking and tinkering of course, but in the end should hopefully work out for the best.

We're not trying to clone or even compare to Era in any way, I mean yes.. there will be guns, and yes.. there will be a lot of killing with guns, but that doesn't mean we're imitating Era.. are we using the same style as Era in regards of game play? Yes, but that's just how things are. Really there isn't much besides guns and killing you can base a Mafia server around, so what do you expect? All in all.. we're just hoping to make a fun server that people will enjoy and or respect. If not, well than at least we had fun trying.

PS: Sorry for any mis-communications Izarius may have brought to this thread.

I am bad with that stuffs =P Thanks Sage!

[salesman]

Sounds like your ultimate goal is to "beat" Era. If you keep comparing everything you do with Era, odds are you're going to fail like every other wannabe server. So far, all I see a 1930's Era with nice graphics...your idea for capturing buildings is something that has been tossed around on Era for ages.

Start thinking more about what Mafia Life can do differently and less about what it can do better than Era.

[DeCeaseD]

Originally Posted by salesman

Sounds like your ultimate goal is to "beat" Era. If you keep comparing everything you do with Era, odds are you're going to fail like every other wannabe server. So far, all I see a 1930's Era with nice graphics...your idea for capturing buildings is something that has been tossed around on Era for ages.

Start thinking more about what Mafia Life can do differently and less about what it can do better than Era.

I kindly noted that we had no intention of copying, beating, or comparing to Era. So how does it "sound" like our ultimate goal is to do so? I never once compared anything to Era, nor did I try to do so. Just because an idea has been tossed around on Era, doesn't mean that it's up and the idea has been revealed to the public eye? There are many things that we plan to do "different" than Era. I don't plan on doing anything "better" than them, because once again like I said.. we aren't trying to compare to them.

[cbk1994]

Those are probably the best custom bodies I've seen on Graal (although there isn't much competition...Atrius bodies, lol). You'll need to make the walk animation (and other defaults ones like pull) before it's clear how they'll actually look in-game, though.

(tip: use PNG instead of JPG for screenshots for lossless quality—your screenshots look grainy now)

[Chakrah]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

buzz killington on the right, anyone else see it?

[Lord Sephiroth]

I love the look of the server, the graphics and such, but the overall premise I'm not so fond of.

To me it sounds like you're trying to create your own Game on Graal, rather than creating your own piece of Graal. I read through it once, and I'm willing to believe I missed the overall point, but I think the main aspects of your server, unless they are strictly enforced, will eventually fall apart and the whole server will disolve into people killing people with guns, just like Era.

That's kind of the whole concept behind the whole "Oh it's another Era." It's not that people are making the same server, it's just that no one remembers that you're developing on Graal. We have an EXTREMELY small player base, which is limited even more by by who your target playerbase is, that doesn't have the focus to follow family guidelines or collecting from stores or stuff like that.

Same concept as to why Role Playing on this game doesn't work anymore. People won't follow guidelines if there's an easier way around them, and if you enforce guidelines, people move away.

It's easy to say that your server looks pretty and sounds interesting, it's a whole other story when it comes to what's reasonably expected out of it.

I wish you guys the best of luck, and honestly I do hope it works out, but I'm just not optimistic that a server like this could be overly successful over a decent period of time, and my opinion is unfortunately helped by history.

[Fulg0reSama]

I told him that online too a couple days ago chris lol.

[Soala]

This server looks quite promising, and I really wish for you guys and the whole graal community that it succeeds.
You've done a great job so far, just keep going!

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by IzariusRyudo

For the people who don't like the bodies...Do you like these???

I don't because the characters (especially the head) aren't contrasting well with the tiles, and have pretty terrible shading if I'm honest. Trying to do something different (such as the absence of outlining) is great and all, but it just isn't working here. The default body and head styles are way more appropriate for the setting; why not just take them, tweak them a little, and base your FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE body system around it? Think long-bodied 2k1 with changeable pieces.

[IzariusRyudo]

Originally Posted by Rufus

I don't because the characters (especially the head) aren't contrasting well with the tiles, and have pretty terrible shading if I'm honest. Trying to do something different (such as the absence of outlining) is great and all, but it just isn't working here. The default body and head styles are way more appropriate for the setting; why not just take them, tweak them a little, and base your FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE body system around it? Think long-bodied 2k1 with changeable pieces.

Haha, this is a great comment, because I FORGOT to mention (But I think I did in earlier posts)...Everything is interchangeable. You will be able to select MANY different combinations.

Eye Color/Style
Hair Color/Style
Clothing Types/Colors
Facial Features
Hats
Skin Color
And many more =]

[kia345]

Originally Posted by IzariusRyudo

Haha, this is a great comment, because I FORGOT to mention (But I think I did in earlier posts)...Everything is interchangeable. You will be able to select MANY different combinations.

Eye Color/Style
Hair Color/Style
Clothing Types/Colors
Facial Features
Hats
Skin Color
And many more =]

But all of this can be achieved with default heads/bodies too

[IzariusRyudo]

But, in doing this it does give some sort of boundaries when it comes to "RP" for example, you won't see a blue fish walking around in a family called Zormite. =] No offense :P