Following the footsteps of Zone

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

The overall problem is a lack of new players on Graal thus a lack of new developers on Graal.

You'd be surprised how many players are developing right now.

Originally Posted by Supaman771

idiotic playerbase

You mean the player populace that you're also a part of?

Originally Posted by Supaman771

all they really need to do is advertise and get the players to log in.

And convince every GK player to stop preaching doom and gloom to every new player they meet.

[nullify]

I'm loving the lack of input and comments from administration.

[gravator]

USDing on kingdoms should have never happened at all, i read posts stating that it was not allowed, but i read plenty of messages years ago that people were selling USD, and to contact them on AIM or another instant messangers, those folks should have gotten permabanned and had their accounts stripped of items and money for events.


Now however Stefan and Unixmad have the right idea of an ingame shop you spend real money in, hopefully they expand on that to include much more, and that could possibly lower the cost of subscriptions overall.

[nullify]

GK has been **** for years man. It's not like this is a new development. Although, it's getting progressively worse.

[OasaTor_PK]

A reset will fix everything.
Everyone will be at a steady playing field, remove bugs like leveling to 110 off alchemy and reading scrolls.

I can bet that 90% of the players who start playing STOP PLAYING because everyone is 900x better then them and whats the point if all I can get is this flaming sword?

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by OasaTor_PK

I can bet that 90% of the players who start playing STOP PLAYING because everyone is 900x better then them and whats the point if all I can get is this flaming sword?

Doesn't mean you need a reset though.
If there was a weapons/armor SHOP where I could just BUY weapons and armor for platinum coins I would probably play GK.

There's no excuse for the lack of content.
It wouldn't be hard to create one new item every day. At that rate the available items would be doubled in basically one quarterly update cycle.

Monsters are a lot harder to make but it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect one new mob every month. But even if there was only one new monster added every quarter by now there would have been 32 more things to kill on GK and levelling to 110 at a reasonable pace could by possible legitimately.

[Seeya]

Its hard to say how an item can just be released daily though.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Seeya

Its hard to say how an item can just be released daily though.

They can't be. Stefan is ****ing neurotic about this ****. He's only given Tig limited access to stuff, and he'll only copy over content from the Dev server to the main server once every 3 months. But if the items were made on a daily basis, when that 3 months come around it'll be like having 14 Christmases at once.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Doesn't mean you need a reset though.

Yeah it does. Buyable items won't stack up against the unbuyable simply because they're accessible. That puts people who don't already have top tier **** at a disadvantage.

I'd actually rather an experience reset than an item reset. That's not to say I wouldn't want both.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by kia345

Yeah it does. Buyable items won't stack up against the unbuyable simply because they're accessible. That puts people who don't already have top tier **** at a disadvantage.

I'd actually rather an experience reset than an item reset. That's not to say I wouldn't want both.

Who says they wouldn't measure up?
Are you forgetting that RoWs are buyable rings?
They're rare, sure, but that just means that you actually need to work at obtaining them.
You might not be able to just buy a shield and sword and go out swinging at kingdom leaders, but at least if you can actually buy items that aren't just glok lord belt and lucky rabbit boots it'll be worth your while to get diamonds and improve your items so that eventually you can compete.

You can't just log onto WoW and start swinging at level 80s either.
But GK at the moment is like WoW if you took out all the items between level 10 and level 79.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Who says they wouldn't measure up?
Are you forgetting that RoWs are buyable rings?
They're rare, sure, but that just means that you actually need to work at obtaining them.
You might not be able to just buy a shield and sword and go out swinging at kingdom leaders, but at least if you can actually buy items that aren't just glok lord belt and lucky rabbit boots it'll be worth your while to get diamonds and improve your items so that eventually you can compete.

You can't just log onto WoW and start swinging at level 80s either.
But GK at the moment is like WoW if you took out all the items between level 10 and level 79.

I have been wasting time on GK for years, and buying RoWs from shops is even less conventional than buying them from players.

You're also putting too much faith in items, which mean nothing. A flaming sword is just as functional as an inferno sword, and a glok belt is one of the more high tier belts. The only items that "make a difference" are too common among older/USDing players, and they pushed the necessary stats of pking too high. Being able to get "better" items easier wouldn't make a single difference. If anything, it would make it worse, because now you've got even more items worth nothing in the player market.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by kia345

A flaming sword

Exibit A. Me.

[StormYs]

Originally Posted by kia345

I have been wasting time on GK for years, and buying RoWs from shops is even less conventional than buying them from players.

You're also putting too much faith in items, which mean nothing. A flaming sword is just as functional as an inferno sword, and a glok belt is one of the more high tier belts. The only items that "make a difference" are too common among older/USDing players, and they pushed the necessary stats of pking too high. Being able to get "better" items easier wouldn't make a single difference. If anything, it would make it worse, because now you've got even more items worth nothing in the player market.

A reset wouldn't be favorable for GK, ppl already mentioned the reasons why it wouldn't be.

Putting faith in items isn't a wrong thought.
The more items craftable the funner GK can get, for crafting work is needed and for work online hours are needed to collect the materials. These materials can be obtained through trading or working.
This will keep the playercount up, giving people something to do and by doing this it might even make people from other servers curious and draw them into gk.

Then again there must be a difference between rares and craftable items to keep the market ongoing. So not everything should be craftable.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by kia345

You're also putting too much faith in items, which mean nothing. A flaming sword is just as functional as an inferno sword, and a glok belt is one of the more high tier belts. The only items that "make a difference" are too common among older/USDing players, and they pushed the necessary stats of pking too high. Being able to get "better" items easier wouldn't make a single difference. If anything, it would make it worse, because now you've got even more items worth nothing in the player market.

The ideal solution is to make all items obtainable, from a flaming sword to a Tainted Grace, a Glok belt to a Belt of Raging Dragon, everything. Very few items would be hailed as actual collectible rares and they would mainly be non-combat items like seasonal costumes, trinkets etc. This is ofcourse the long process of adding content, but is a more viable solution to the problem than a reset of any nature.

Someone mentioned an experience reset? Yes, that would be good, many of us have hit maximum level in one day (not of overall playing time) through mental or even agility. Maximum level shouldn't be that easy to obtain, especially in 1 specific skill. Mental, Agility should both be as hard as phys is to level. But there needs to be changes made before an experience reset should occur. Changes like more leveling options apposed to the limited lords to maps to zombies we have now. More alchemy recipes, make alchemy very important for crafting actually useful stuff and it be both time consuming and financially strenuous to level it since the profits at high levels would be great.

I think dennis suggested tweaking the base level experience curve so that level 110 would be practically impossible to achieve as you'd need to reach near 107 on every skill. This could be done easily and give a truer representation of someones experience than the current system.

[Gothika]

The problem with most players not sticking around is because they find it too hard to level up. Making it even harder would just push more people away.