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Old 07-21-2009, 05:46 AM
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:32 AM
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Yea, makes all the people that actually applied feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing she either completely ignored our applications or consider none of us good enough for the job while seeking for a new member.
Well, Bell is my boss, and I can't be picky and choosy about who she has me work alongside. That would be unprofessional. The fact that she chose someone who seemingly never applied and was hand-picked was an executive decision she made. As Tig said, we're always on the lookout and obviously people who apply within the forum would like to have precedence of choice over someone who has not applied. Having seen Xor in action directly and noticed his abilities, I think Bell obviously opted to act on positive grounds rather than an intention of "taking a stab" at the people who did apply.

I'm not for or against the choice made. I understand previous applicants' frustration, but I also understand Bell's current standing and highly doubt in any way it had anything to do with the applicants of the past being any more or less "qualified" than Xor.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:47 AM
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I really never heard of Xor before, and I doubt more than half of the community has heard of him before. The point of getting INVITED is because that person has helped out other people with Server issues, problems, Etc....

I have known Tig before he became a "Global" and I have known TSA before he became a global and I've known other "Globals" before they actually became "Globals". The point is that Xor hasen't been judged by the community yet to actually give their opinion on Xor being a "Global" member, and the only people that actually have judged Xor are the other Global Administrators.

What I think that should of been done is that someone should of have asked the community is Xor was good enough for this position.
i don't see why you should expect us commoners to have any input into what the staff of graal do. obviously none of us are good enough to be hand selected for the PWA, including both those who applied and didn't apply. so really, what would we know about who makes a good candidate for the PWA? i don't know who xor is, but he must be awesome if the PWA hand selected him over...all of us?
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:52 AM
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Aside from all these congratz. What is Xors job actually going to be..? There are scripting pwa's and pwa inspectors and whatnot, what is his title?

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Well, Bell is my boss, and I can't be picky and choosy about who she has me work alongside. That would be unprofessional. The fact that she chose someone who seemingly never applied and was hand-picked was an executive decision she made. As Tig said, we're always on the lookout and obviously people who apply within the forum would like to have precedence of choice over someone who has not applied. Having seen Xor in action directly and noticed his abilities, I think Bell obviously opted to act on positive grounds rather than an intention of "taking a stab" at the people who did apply.

I'm not for or against the choice made. I understand previous applicants' frustration, but I also understand Bell's current standing and highly doubt in any way it had anything to do with the applicants of the past being any more or less "qualified" than Xor.
I'm not really attacking the process, I'm sorry. I am sort of frustrated though for watching that each time a new pwa is picked, it is only after someone has seen them in action with players on a server. Basically eliminating anyone who cannot be found on a server that is not classic or has the attention of the pwa.
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I'm not really attacking the process, I'm sorry. I am sort of frustrated though for watching that each time a new pwa is picked, it is only after someone has seen them in action with players on a server. Basically eliminating anyone who cannot be found on a server that is not classic or has the attention of the pwa.
I was picked through the application process, but I guess as far as "Seeing in action" with me came from the fact that I didn't let HoudiniMan miss me. I was always in his face and wasn't afraid to challenge his decisions (Provided I knew they were wrong or flawed) and I think the fact that he couldn't shake me forced him to see me in action and helped my application even more. Perhaps it's not all about reputation and applications, but getting in there and not just hoping you'll get noticed, but make yourself noticed.

@James: Title's aren't really given. You can do what you can do. Tig and I can script, but as far as I'm aware, neither one of us has held a "Subtitle" under PWA status. We're just PWA.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:57 AM
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:27 AM
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I was picked through the application process, but I guess as far as "Seeing in action" with me came from the fact that I didn't let HoudiniMan miss me. I was always in his face and wasn't afraid to challenge his decisions (Provided I knew they were wrong or flawed) and I think the fact that he couldn't shake me forced him to see me in action and helped my application even more. Perhaps it's not all about reputation and applications, but getting in there and not just hoping you'll get noticed, but make yourself noticed.
I've tried several ways to write this post but to just write it a final time, I feel slightly spoken down to ><! I know it's not all reputation and applications, and I know the correct way to get noticed is by not trying, but you've missed my point.

You're saying that if you want a chance at being a pwa you must work where you may get noticed basically. Tell me the name of a pwa that was not hired after working on a server that has not been popular and classic.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:31 AM
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Look, if you are still actually playing Graal, you obviously lack the critical-thinking skills required for informed decisions regarding PWA applicants~
Haha...

Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

Congrats to Xor, and good luck.
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:18 PM
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:05 PM
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Applications are not the ideal way to select someone for a global staff position. PWA members need to be fair and respectful to players, a quality that cannot be represented through applications but only through personal interaction. The PWA hiring section probably should have never been added, as it would be much better for a person to be selected by global staff based on how they interact with the community.

Congrats to Xor, and good luck.
I very much agree.
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