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Old 08-12-2006, 07:28 AM
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Hey guys when we unviel Niromia we'll have a few big suprises for you. Some thing(s) we are doing I have never seen done on a current/old PW or Classic server. Reason it is taking long is becuase Im 'practically' the only scripter and we are very understaffed.
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:32 AM
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I dont get this threads goal.

anyways assume this situation.

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You go out and you purchase a Playstation 3 because it is awesome, and you buy a game for it. You have work constantly, and a life you have to live outside your PS3. However Sony has told you, if they come to your house in a month and you have not beaten the game, they will take your game AND your ps3, and you will need to go rebuy it in order to use them again.
How absurd is that?

In the example the ps3 is like the server, and the game is like the servers content, get it?

The reason people dont try to qualify many classic servers is obvious, most people realise that the 100 they spend on a server can be used to buy a copy of the engine graal is using now, and try their own indie project.
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:50 AM
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Topic Rename: The Decline of Graal
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:30 AM
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What happened to the golden days, why did they end?

1. Graal became p2p, I mean it was ok to have Graal 2001 be p2p, but then the entire thing became p2p. (I fully understand Stefan living from Graal so don't lecture me about that. I'm not complaining.)
2. Something bad happened to Classic. It started when a *certain someone* decided to put light fx in. But hey I loved the boat system.
3. Unholy Nation went online. I think this here was the biggest golden day killer.
4. Lack of development. Too many servers with too little content. Not enough to keep someone busy for a while. Keeping someone busy however doesn't include making annoying repetitive button pressing jobs to make rupees.

Want to know why everyone plays Unholy Nation? A lot of fun stuff is there. Now to pick on other servers: N-Pulse. It has broken job scripts, and most of those "jobs" require you to press D constantly. Plus nothing is happening. Sure you may be improving little pieces like adding *swordonly into the event center (which would take me a few seconds), but what happened to the new overworld? No news whatsoever. It's why I couldn't stand working there. Management gave you nothing to do. Although I don't know now, Andy is probably doing a better job.

How much money Graal makes depends on how the community makes the game. :/
Know why I loved the server Graal 3000? They constantly put in new stuff like quests.. etc. And we had to find it.

Make it fun and a lot of people will come. For a reward, and equal amount of work must be put in.

So if you want more golden days, stop making useless #gscript servers where you play around, and actually make something for people to enjoy. ^.^

Stefan can't do it all by himself now.


See the thing about Graal right now is that it's a sandbox, a pretty complicated sandbox with little support on how gs2 works. All you have is one confusing wiki explaining GS2 which you can't really play around with unless you buy your own server, but why would you buy your own server if you don't know how GS2 works? Back during 99-00 Graal wasn't really a sandbox, it was tough to make a good server (in a certain way), and to get it up on the list, people just played.

Don't get me wrong though, it was much easier scripting back then, since most of it worked offline, and it didn't take much to understand how it worked online. hide; .. hidelocal; .. etc.
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:43 PM
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Well, Zodiac was ready to go Classic two days ago, but the subscription ran out.. We're waiting to see if Unixmad will reactivate the server for us, we really don't want to pay $50 just to go Classic.

It's not all that special right now since we still are, and always will be, working to add new content which hasn't been seen on other servers (namely Maloria and Graal Kingdoms).
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:51 PM
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Well, Zodiac was ready to go Classic two days ago, but the subscription ran out.. We're waiting to see if Unixmad will reactivate the server for us, we really don't want to pay $50 just to go Classic.

It's not all that special right now since we still are, and always will be, working to add new content which hasn't been seen on other servers (namely Maloria and Graal Kingdoms).
Good news.

It's Playerworlds like Zodiac, Aeon, and Atrius i think have hope.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:01 PM
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Hopefully a few of these promising playerworlds will be released within the next month or so, and we can see a turnaround for GraalOnline.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:39 PM
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This thread is pointless, I doubt unixmad or stefan will comment. And if they do it won't be productive and nothing will happen.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:40 PM
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What googleman just said about Unholy Nation is a load of crap. There's nothing fun about getting lamed by noobs. O_O
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:01 PM
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VS:CONFLICT is pretty much complete; I just need a server / P2P / NAT's and inside levels D:
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:13 PM
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From what Crono has shown me, you do some awesome levels, Wan.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:35 PM
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I thought Wan did Scripting, or i might be mistaking him with Ning. x-x

Anyway, i do agree. There are atleast 5 promising playerworlds, that just need time before their complete.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:13 AM
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And what do you suppose they are?
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:17 AM
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What googleman just said about Unholy Nation is a load of crap. There's nothing fun about getting lamed by noobs. O_O
I don't play UN so I don't know about those noobies. ^.^

I was once on UN 2 years ago when those 2 guys decided to throw rupees everywhere. I ended up with 3 million rupees. ^.^ (During XMas)

The only thing I do know is that they have too many npcs, and that all of the new people to Graal go to Unholy Nation while everyone else hangs out on other servers.
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:22 AM
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Yes. Because it's the most populated and noone likes to examine other servers. UN is noob. Always will be. It was good about 4 years ago. Now it's just irritating. It's dominating the list for no reason and deserves to be shut down.
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