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View Poll Results: What do you think, in general, about the PWA?
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:10 AM
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I'm sorry but it is extremely difficult for me to carry on a professional relationship with you after what you tried to pull.

http://lyndzey.vip.graal.net/Malinko.html
That was the other information I was told to not make public. But she did. Oh snap.

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I've read that before. If it's really true, then Malinko wold have lost his possition, yes? Malinko was there to help me out with my server, and inspected it for the hosted tab before some of the other pwas....of course, not all have, it takes a while.
Why the hell would she provide false information? Got damn dude. Use your brain. Refer to my first post on the matter of the "higher ups" not doing anything about Malinko.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:01 AM
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Lyndzey posted logs.
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:54 AM
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I dont know what to say about this thread, i think the PWA Hirings have been really one-sided since Spark more or less no longer controlled them.

It was just globals going from one global position to another (sometimes doing two at a time). I think it would have been more fair to do open submissions (though how fair could it be really, could still be fixed) and let other more capable people be in those places.

I have no opinion on literally most of the PWA because ive never seen them, and personal opinions aside i really thought Calani did a brilliant job.

Spark and VT were the only PWAs I had good contact with at the time and had nothing bad to say about them at all.

The playerworld renting service is a bit messed up because Stefan likes to help other servers that already had a chance, and get them back up (Not dissing stefan, but there is Era again, maybe if it were Gold I could understand, there is another classic spot gone).

I dont think it is about how capable you are, its just about who you know, and thats the sad thing about this game right now.

I cant remember where this post was headed now, but graal just isnt fair anymore, thats why its too hard to finish anything here.
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:23 AM
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:47 AM
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Malinko should of been fired? No, you idiot.
I guess you're the idiot, idiot.

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Sure people may not like him,
I liked him untill he tried to **** with Minh, me and Era.

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but face the facts.
Stopped reading here, sorry.


O hey, why don't you just take a look at Chris / Lyndzey's posts? Just to face the facts.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:08 PM
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Lyndzey posted logs.
Not really because its not real logs on the real graal online forumes; Its basically a 3rd party source that has been turned into html and then uploaded ot a different site and we are just given the power to go and see for are selves or not. So no real rules are broken lol..
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Old 02-17-2006, 02:11 PM
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If it's really true, then Malinko wold have lost his possition, yes?
Believe me, we have tried to fire him after what he did. Ibonic attempted to remove him, but he was added back because I guess him being active makes up for him being extremely corrupt.

I am annoyed by Malinko trying to make it seem like everyone is out to get him. You brought this onto yourself Malinko, so stop trying to make it look like we hate you for no reason. I don't care if you are on for 16 hours a day, if you PM me "new ideas!" everytime I login, or if you put "<3" messages all over the support center. It doesn't change the fact that you severly broke the rules, and you refuse to admit it.

By the way, next time you make a massive apology, at least admit your past mistakes.
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Old 02-17-2006, 02:12 PM
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Linking to logs isn't a way to bypass the rule about posting logs, but like any good system enforcing rules each violation should be examined on a case by case basis.

The rule was created to prevent people from posting 400 lines of RC chat and asking for bans, or to post incriminating AIM logs which started giant flame wars.

Lyndzey's link was to support a cause she believes in and evidence to support the actions she is asking be taken. The evidence she presents is partly a log of her talking to Malinko to investigate this obvious problem she came across. His defence was incomplete at best, a vicious lie at worst.

Now, in judging the intention of her linked log I think we should take into account a few things:
1) There is no current chief of the PWA to go to (also contributes to why we are slow to respond to many inquiries).
2) The only higher authority she can go to is Stefan for problems concerning globals, as Unixmad generally runs the business aspect of Graal, not the management aspect, from my experience.
3) There is reason to question if Stefan has grasped the problem as nothing has been done about it.

Now, normally this problem on a playerworld would be made into a support ticket to be handled by the appropriate person. However, in this case there is no appropriate authority to handle this request who has not already been asked to handle it, and hasn't.

Many people's only conclusion is that the complaint has been misunderstood, and that page is to better clarify it to anybody wanting an in-depth explanation of Lyndzey's suspicions and the evidence she has to support them.

I do not believe this use of a link to a page that contains a log is violating the spirit of the rule about posting logs. In fact, I believe it to be a courtesy on Lyndzey's part.
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:49 PM
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Those who said or just voted we do a bad job. It's ok if you think so but then you could also make some suggestions on things we could improve.

I do not mean things like " I made a support ticket about beeing banned on xyz but you didn't unban. You could unban me to do a better job.".
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Old 02-17-2006, 04:02 PM
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Those who said or just voted we do a bad job. It's ok if you think so but then you could also make some suggestions on things we could improve.
Already I have suggested some things you should do in the thread I created the other day. Read my first post for some suggestions I made.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64144
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Old 02-17-2006, 04:23 PM
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Those who said or just voted we do a bad job. It's ok if you think so but then you could also make some suggestions on things we could improve.

I do not mean things like " I made a support ticket about beeing banned on xyz but you didn't unban. You could unban me to do a better job.".
I think the main thing most are asking for (I'm really a third party observer here) is simply some more activity and faster response time. It just seems silly that a server that is paying good money for time on the servers has to wait months for a simple response from globals that should probably be more active then that.
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:57 PM
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Those who said or just voted we do a bad job. It's ok if you think so but then you could also make some suggestions on things we could improve.

I do not mean things like " I made a support ticket about beeing banned on xyz but you didn't unban. You could unban me to do a better job.".
Its not you or anyone else that I have a problem with. It is just that Malinko is still in a position to take advantage of servers. He barely had any rights when he abused them on Era and now he has even more. Adding to what Lyndzey provide I still do not see why he is around.

You can even check the logs we have on Era with all the proof of his activities. They've been uploaded there for months.
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:58 PM
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And this is where the bashing comes in, don't say I didn't warn you.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:53 PM
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:04 PM
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Personally, since Malinko has become part of the pwa I haven't heard of any problems...perhaps he has *gasp* changed? I could be wrong, correct me if I am.
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