Suspended Guilds >_____________> - Page 4

xAndrewx · #46 09-15-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

Nobody cares about guild charters.
The information Vulcan requests is inconsequential.

Well, the first statement you made was wrong.
Obviously, people do care, else you wouldn't be complaining.

It's there for a reason, use it.

Minoc · #47 09-15-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Well, the first statement you made was wrong.
Obviously, people do care, else you wouldn't be complaining.

Ok, 1/200 of the players care for guild charters, Vulcan is one of them.
BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
There is no logical reason to force people to add guild charters.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

It's there for a reason, use it.

Yes, the feature is there for a reason, I CAN use it but I DON'T WANT to, and there is no reason to force me.

xAndrewx · #48 09-15-2005, 10:22 PM

Well, if you don't want your guild enabled, then sure, don't use it.
No one is stopping you.

Minoc · #49 09-15-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Well, if you don't want your guild enabled, then sure, don't use it.
No one is stopping you.

I think you missed the point of this thread.

xAndrewx · #50 09-15-2005, 10:33 PM

It seems that new guilds are being suspended for having no charter or providing 'insufficient' information.

If Vulcan doesn't know what playerworld the guild was made for, how can he get in touch with them?
Giving information about the guild, would also make it easier for the players to know who the guild is allys/enemies with.

Inspiration · #51 09-15-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

If Vulcan doesn't know what playerworld the guild was made for, how can he get in touch with them?

Guild admin is able to post in a guilds CP forum.

Minoc · #52 09-15-2005, 10:43 PM

I'm getting sick of repeating myself.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

If Vulcan doesn't know what playerworld the guild was made for, how can he get in touch with them?

Why should Vulcan care about the intended playerworld?
He could easily contact the leaders via email.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Giving information about the guild, would also make it easier for the players to know who the guild is allys/enemies with.

Most of the players don't care for that information.
If a leader of a guild doesn't want to provide extra useless information about his guild, why should he be forced to?

XyphosMisery · #53 09-15-2005, 10:48 PM

But putting quotes in your charter makes you look cool.
/sarcasm

HoudiniMan · #54 09-16-2005, 04:27 AM

Vulcan's the closest thing you guys have ever had to instant gratification when you cry about your guild needing admin attention.

Either everybody complains about lack of activity or you complain you're being over-regulated. At least things are getting done.

It's not like filling in your charter is real hard work. Put some effort into having a good guild.

Inspiration · #55 09-16-2005, 07:18 AM

Perhaps if the guild admin was to focus more on creating/planning things for guilds to do, the leaders of guilds would be more prone to want to take their guilds further than just LOL W R ELETIE @ SPAR AND PK.

Face it, most of the guilds that have allies, enemys, and RP already have charters. The guilds that are just make for PKing and sparring, the ones that really don't have any real reason for existing besides no friendly fire, don't.

The focus of the guild admin should be on attempting to organize Global events for guilds, coming up with uses for the guild points gained by guild activity, ect.

Instead, he's taking a step backwards, making it difficult for people, for no real reason.

What Graal needs now, as I've said before, is more global interactivity. At the very best, the game is keeping its playerbase. For sure, it is not going up. Besides the forums, the community rarely interacts on a server to server basis. Guilds have always been an important part of the game, to the point where you could be famous just for being in one.

Before, when sparring was good, when 200+ players where on servers, guilds pretty much ran themselves. 5-10 guilds would compete for the top spot on a server, and it was damn fun.

Now, with everyone spread over 15 servers, each server only has 1-2 guilds that are even really active. There is rarely any inter-guild competition at all. Being in a guild is just plain boring.

People will become interested in their guild if you give them a reason to be. Currently on classic graal, there really isnt one.

Some guy that knows nothing of this can't possibly do the job correctly.

In response to houdini: Just because he is available a lot means it's okay to look over all his other faults? I know tons of staff on this game who are online hours daily and do a horrible job. Maybe he would be good as something else, but his actions thusfar shows one thing: He knows very little of Graal's guilds, their history, or how to possibly revive the activity of them.

xAndrewx · #56 09-17-2005, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Your huge pointless post, why post it? It's pointless..

How can he find out about this guild, if the information isn't correctly filled in?
He's making the guild database more organised. Is that so wrong? No, as Houdini said, It's not like filling in your charter is real hard work.

Vulcan is organising the database, do you find it hard to see this?
I'm sure Vulcan has some plans for the guilds in the future, but right now, I guess his main priority is organising the database.

Darlene159 · #57 09-17-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

How can he find out about this guild, if the information isn't correctly filled in?
He's making the guild database more organised. Is that so wrong? No, as Houdini said, It's not like filling in your charter is real hard work.

Vulcan is organising the database, do you find it hard to see this?
I'm sure Vulcan has some plans for the guilds in the future, but right now, I guess his main priority is organising the database.

I agree. I fail to see what the big deal is.

Inspiration · #58 09-17-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

How can he find out about this guild, if the information isn't correctly filled in?

Why would he be picked for guilds admin with little, or no, knowledge of guilds that have played a huge part of Graals history?

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

He's making the guild database more organised. Is that so wrong? No, as Houdini said, It's not like filling in your charter is real hard work.

It's fairly hard if the leader is no longer able to be contacted and no one else has the right too.

It is not a question of if it is "hard work" or not. It's simply a rediculous thing to make manditory all of a sudden. It will not "organize" the database. How does it organize it?

As I said before, if you are interested in joining a guild, you probably already have a good idea about what it is. I've never heard a single person say "Yeah I wanted to join (Killersofdeadlydoom) but they had no guild charter!! I hate that!!".

xAndrewx · #59 09-17-2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Why would he be picked for guilds admin with little, or no, knowledge of guilds that have played a huge part of Graals history?

Why should it matter?
It's a guild, guilds should be treated the same.
Name some 'important' guilds. They might be important to you, but not to anyone else, why is that? because Graal changes, deal with the changes.

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It's fairly hard if the leader is no longer able to be contacted and no one else has the right too.

If the person can't be contacted, he will probably contact the second person in charge of the guild, and if they can't be contacted, he'll work his way down the guild member list untill one responds.

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It is not a question of if it is "hard work" or not. It's simply a rediculous thing to make manditory all of a sudden. It will not "organize" the database. How does it organize it?

Why won't it organize it? Your post just shows a sign of someone being lazy that doesn't want to fill it all in. Why is that? would you rather it be all over the place?

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As I said before, if you are interested in joining a guild, you probably already have a good idea about what it is. I've never heard a single person say "Yeah I wanted to join (Killersofdeadlydoom) but they had no guild charter!! I hate that!!".

Wouldn't it be better, if the charter actually described the guild? You don't take the guilds seriously, why is that?