Graal2001 remake... what would you...

[haunter]

What if the player controlled two characters at once? One Human, and One Bomy... Err, well I guess that would be like everyone having a bomy pet, huh?

[Waltz5]

Originally Posted by haunter

What if the player controlled two characters at once? One Human, and One Bomy... Err, well I guess that would be like everyone having a bomy pet, huh?

That takes away the point of having 2 races pretty much and would be very similar to being able to morph back and forth. People would say, dive for pearls most of the time, transfer gralats to their human character to buy stuff.

If you have the 2 races, which I think is a huge part of 2001, then you should just have to choose in the beginning and then that's it. Nothing else.


I also told Koni he can count on me for any help when he needs it.

[Damix2]

This is what I want:
*points at attachment*
1.get rid of these damn villas and put the house back, that was my favorite house =(

2.this whole underground crap was a failure, get rid of it.

3.give me back old dustari, we will never use all those houses.

4.what the hell is the point of this, I never understood?

5.That is MY bush field, keep it the way it was.

Other things I didn't circle:
1.Everything unfinished (hotel, konidias quest house, gsl arena) get rid of it, I hate looking at unfinshed stuff.

2.kungfu system, just give everyone a sword, i don't want to work for it.

3.give me the damn old bodies back, jesus, just do it already.

4.I can't really remember right now, I'll think of something later


I really think th downfall of 2k1 was just because of some bad descions to put time into. If we could just go back to the original map, but keep some of the changes, I would be happy =D

[Myomoto]

Make jobs like mini games, for example, when smithing, a vertical colorcoded bar will apear, the point is to focus a little ball in the middle of the bar, to do so, you need to press the left and right keys after each other. The ball itself will be moving from one end of the bar to the other end, but when pressing the keys it will be "pressed" into the middle. This might need further tweaking and the such, but it'll atleast make sure people consentrate and not bore themselves with jobs.

Also, keep the kung-fu fighting, and tweak it to be as good as the sword (damage wise) it's way more fun to fly throug the air and kick people in the head, than to just swing a sword at them.

And remove the bomy moon, it's ugly and takes up too much space! :O

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Myomoto

Make jobs like mini games, for example, when smithing, a vertical colorcoded bar will apear, the point is to focus a little ball in the middle of the bar, to do so, you need to press the left and right keys after each other. The ball itself will be moving from one end of the bar to the other end, but when pressing the keys it will be "pressed" into the middle. This might need further tweaking and the such, but it'll atleast make sure people consentrate and not bore themselves with jobs.

Also, keep the kung-fu fighting, and tweak it to be as good as the sword (damage wise) it's way more fun to fly throug the air and kick people in the head, than to just swing a sword at them.

And remove the bomy moon, it's ugly and takes up too much space! :O

I like that minigame idea alot. It takes away the boring D bashing.

[Mykel]

I have always liked the idea of having multiple characters.

It would be so when you loaded the startup screen it gives you a chance to select which character you would like to choose. It would also have options to delete a character and obviously create a character.

It is just an aspect I have always liked from another MMORPG I play every now and then.

[Brad]

whoever said underground idea failed?

ug-lake was cool and is a part of graal

instrument shop is there...bottle shop...the best fishing spots in graal..etc.

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by Brad

whoever said underground idea failed?

ug-lake was cool and is a part of graal

instrument shop is there...bottle shop...the best fishing spots in graal..etc.

I never saw anyone down there, those things could easily be moved to the surface. Also I didn't like all the darkness, my screen isnt bright and i could never see

[Brad]

I love ug-lake I was a fisher when mining started to suck and there was one spot that I just sat at non stop :[

[haunter]

Originally Posted by Waltz5

That takes away the point of having 2 races pretty much and would be very similar to being able to morph back and forth. People would say, dive for pearls most of the time, transfer gralats to their human character to buy stuff.

If you have the 2 races, which I think is a huge part of 2001, then you should just have to choose in the beginning and then that's it. Nothing else.

But I thought Konidias brought up the idea of removing Bomy players completely... My idea was just a possible alternative.

And the UG-Lake was freaking keen. Leave it there! Also, why would he get rid of everything unfinished? That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a very long time, congrats Damix... Here's a thought: finish the unfinished things.

I'm curious about Lance's opinion on this whole thing. Hmmm...

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by haunter

Also, why would he get rid of everything unfinished? That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a very long time, congrats Damix... Here's a thought: finish the unfinished things.

If it hasn't been finished by now then I doubt anyone can even remember the original intentions. Heres a thought for you:Start new things, obviously this stuff hasn't been working.

[protagonist]

I thought the UG lake was kind of cool, personally.

[Rick]

Same, but I think it was way too dark. Even with a torch.

[konidias]

Yes, I liked UG lake too... aside from the fact that birdbird plastered it with lights (that didn't illuminate anything) and tons of freaking badly scripted npcs that lagged me.

I will fix it up just like all the other levels. I don't think you can get rid of such a huge amount of stuff and just move the important things elsewhere. That wouldn't be sticking with the original 2k1 very well.

I may work on the unfinished things... The quest house was my doing, so I can probably finish that finally. As for multiple characters Mykel, that wouldn't work very well. It would be hard to store the data for each character. I mean the player account would be jammed full of strings and such. You can always have multiple graal accounts to have multiple characters. =P

As for the jobs and minigames thing... I'm not sure I understand your concept exactly Myomoto. I have come up with some possible solutions to make jobs not boring though. When I get around to the jobs stuff I will post explanations of the job changes. It won't be happening right away though.

I'm uncertain as to whether I want human and bomy races. The only thing it not having bomy players would cause, is the bird catching and pearl diving jobs would be obsolete... I'm really just unsure as to whether players as bomies is a good idea. A big problem is that one of the new features on the server would be all the clothing options. But some of the bomies already have clothes, and I don't think I want to go to the trouble of making clothing for the bomies to wear... It would be so much work. I'm not even sure I want bomies as playable at any time. It would interfere with fighting and just be a big mess. Besides the fact that owning a bomy pet allows you to move just like a bomy would...

I feel bad that some people want to play as bomies, but like 95% of the players would rather be human, and I can't spend dozens of hours just to satisfy that 5% that demand they can play as bomies.

To make up for this, I'm going to have bomy pets be a lot more helpful to you. There *will* be a job or two that allows you to use your bomy pet in order to do the job. Your bomy will be able to carry items for you (though you can't ride it while it carries stuff) There could also be battling if I get around to that. =P

Screenshots of what I've done so far should be posted in a day or two... If you want to show support for this revision, please add the support animation to your signature. I'm sort of in need of a server to host this on. I don't want to host it on Oasis because I might be continuing work on Oasis.

Oh, and the reason I post such big posts is because I can only post once per day, so deal with it.

edit: by the way, this is my own project. it's not offiliated with the official 2k1. I didn't take over the official 2k1. I'm not sure what Lance has to say about this but I believe he doesn't mind or he would have closed/moved this thread already. It shouldn't really interfere with his project in any way. In fact it might take pressure off his project.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by konidias

I feel bad that some people want to play as bomies, but like 95% of the players would rather be human, and I can't spend dozens of hours just to satisfy that 5% that demand they can play as bomies

Even those that don't want to play as bomies may benefit from other people doing so.