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Old 12-21-2002, 08:21 PM
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The VIP thing is not taking away things from Gold Members, it's when you don't have gold account yet then you can get some gold features without paying for the gold thing.
Which is what I love about it Should rename it to Platinum account rather than VIP. I'd say there are very few people that would be worthy of such a title and I'm not one of them. But anyway, I'm glad about this little announcement and I can't wait till I pay for that VIP account and get to join in the testing of the 3D stuffs.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:24 PM
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OK i have a question i just got my gold account like 2 weeks ago, and now i have to pay again to get guilds, ect. what the heck I was lucky enough to get a gold account!
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:25 PM
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I'll tell you one thing, one of these days someone is going to take offense to this bull **** and look into Cyberjouers for fraud. Because that is what this is. The claim when Graal went all-p2p is fraud, because they actually listed the stuff you could do. With this VIP thing, that is all changed.
You're only the billionth person to spout of such a threat Unfortunate for you, there are many of players that probably don't feel ripped off. In fact, for me, this works out quite nicely since my gold account is going to be up within a month.

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but if you do have a gold account already that you just upgraded a couple months ago, and now VIP lets me do what i want and is cheaper then gold what then...thanks for screwing me over.
Perhaps if you'd ask a little more nicely, they'd might be willing to work with you. Throwing hissy fits is only going to cause them to turn away because they have better things to do, I'm sure, than to sit here and listen to a bunch of people whine like they are now.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:30 PM
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OK, I have a guild currently, and I'm a gold subscriber (obviously) now if I don't subscribe to VIP, will I lose my guild, LOA?
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:30 PM
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Don't move, there is something brown on your nose.
Sorry if you think that, but I'm not. You as well as many other people do not have any experience running a business. Neither do I, but I seem to understand this much better than you do. I'm pretty sure Cyberjouyers knows what its doing far better than any of us could even comprehend so your attacks and threats are pretty much useless.

I guess we can chalk up another one for the anti-graal people . They absolutely disgust me with thier misinformation and lies that they spread.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:31 PM
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No one has screwed you ovber, VIP Is cheap to make it take off and get people intrested, it will raise at a later date its just cheapr for a while for YOU and not for anyone else, they have done a favor by doing that. And VIP is if you dont want gold so you dont have to upgrade to is most are ahppy with just Classic.

Stefan can you reply to my PM about that documentation i sent you, i expected feedback/a reply.

Food Time, Ill be back in 2mins, this thread will probably be about 20 pages long then!! People try it before you are going to complain about it, I promise you everything will work out.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:35 PM
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Yes, well some of us registered for an entire year. Alot of people register in the summer, when they have work and as a result money. What are you going to tell them?

Some of us don't have rich parents that buy us whatever we want. Some of us actually earn our money.
OH! But guess what? I have to work for my money too! OMG! Sorry, that attacked failed and very miserably at that too.

Again, perhaps if you and several others would stop acting like a bunch of rabid animals and behave like a mature person, perhaps you could ask and possibly persuade Unixmad or Stefan to implement something for those that have full year Gold accounts and want to transfer it to a VIP. Heck, since you paid $40 for it, break it in two and you get 2 years of VIP since its only $19 for one year. But at this rate, I'd say you're just going to wind up blue in the face due to lack of oxygen from all your screaming.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:41 PM
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The VIP thing is not taking away things from Gold Members, it's when you don't have gold account yet then you can get some gold features without paying for the gold thing.
Then why in the name of bob dole does it say you can create guilds only with VIP, that in order to own a playerworld you need a VIP account, and all that stuff?

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Old 12-21-2002, 08:47 PM
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More likely my fingers will get a cramp than my face turn blue. And I would not put much hope on Unixmad or Stefan arranging something like that.
That's what you get for behaving the way you are. Either one would probably be more than willing to work with you and several others about this but not if you're going to behave like a 3 year old. If you really want to be compensated, then I'd suggest changing your attitude and behavior and calmy put together a group of people that will express the same concerns in a non-angry way. Usually, that is by far more effective than shouting, ranting, and so forth. But hey, what do I know, hmm? I'm just another nobody who's suggestions are worthless because someone is too afraid to try them. So what if they didn't work? Perhaps it will lead to something else later on down the road. The future is always uncertain. Anything and everything can happen at anytime and any place. So to say that you know the emminent future of Graal is rather bogus and only shows how little you are trying to percieve.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:49 PM
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Yes but Managing a PW had nothing to do with Gold accounts so its not taking anything away, and guilds is the only thing that will change as far as I can see. Also people are replying as if its only about them everyone will or wont be effected together, so no need to be all me me me about it. Im bored to changing subject to what this post was first supposed to be about:

The website is good although I'd like to see info about PWs online like old site as that was good. I ahve info I did for Stefan i'd like to see it used as it will help people who play and help attract players as they may like the sound of one.

Old classic Server will be great for everyone, old and new players, Cant wait.

3D Game sounds great, Graal 3D *Drools*
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:50 PM
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I'm just another nobody who's suggestions are worthless because someone is too afraid to try them
I'm glad we can agree on at least one thing.
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Re: Reality Check

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Graal will be VERY big to download you should offer when you get the 3D world anyway, offer maybe a disk version of it for really low, or get an account on kazza and leave it open all the time so people can downlaod off it without breaking connections.
What proof have you? Comparing 2D to 3D in terms of physical storage, 3D takes up much less than what 2D does. The big trouble comes when you have large and/or hi-quality textures involved. Those will be the bulk of your download. Other than that, actual 3D maps and character meshes will be rather simple and quick to download.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:51 PM
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I'm glad we can agree on at least one thing.
Heh, you're just being stubborn. Unfortunately for you, you won't get what you want with that attitude. You'll just have to walk away all flustered and sobbing.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:53 PM
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Yes but Managing a PW had nothing to do with Gold accounts so its not taking anything away, and guilds is the only thing that will change as far as I can see. Also people are replying as if its only about them everyone will or wont be effected together, so no need to be all me me me about it. Im bored to changing subject to what this post was first supposed to be about:

The website is good although I'd like to see info about PWs online like old site as that was good. I ahve info I did for Stefan i'd like to see it used as it will help people who play and help attract players as they may like the sound of one.

Old classic Server will be great for everyone, old and new players, Cant wait.

3D Game sounds great, Graal 3D *Drools*
Stefan already stated it was an accident about the guild thing. Gold accounts will still get permission to create guilds as he had indicated in a different thread.

And Graal 3D? I have the 3 old versions of it
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:56 PM
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Does that mean once my Gold Subscription runs out, and I'm a VIP member I can still do all the gold stuff and more?
Or just on Saturdays?
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