Malak's Complaint.

[Lyndzey8000]

I want the Bridge to be taken away. I want Miru to be taken away. I want the own private rooms to be taken away. I want the newbies taken away. We are going to make all the current members make a thing about what they do. Pirates and Zormites have like nothing, I can just walk into their ship and nothing happens =\. Same with Zormites...right now Dustari is almost a shame to be in...and I am almost thinking about quitting...::sigh::

I hope Asuka can fix this

Until then...we will remain the same unless Zulithe and I can change things around

[Zulithe]

Hi Malak, you have no idea how many 'complaints' I receive on an hourly basis ^_^ But hey, since you took the time to write this out I'll tell you what I think.

Originally posted by Malak
1) Dustari Kingdom. Supposed to be a medieval Kingdom, based sort of on your basic Knights of the Round table in King Arthur's court history. You know, the basic land of heroes and magic sort of thing. Cool, huh? Yeah right. Take a look around this so called Kingdom.

It has a lot of Medieval overtones but we are not trying to 100% emulate that time period. We are drawing upon that time period as a reference for inspiration but we really don't want it to be exactly like that, we will add our own twists and turns. So if you see something that doesn't exactly fit into the time period, it's no big deal. All of the Kingdoms are inspired by different aspects of Earth's history. Dustari by Medieval Britannia, Samurai by Feudal Japan, Zormites by the Roman Empire, etc.

A) First, there's the people. Knights, Wizards, Clerics, and the etc should have proper, RolePlaying medieval names, I would think. You know, stuff like 'Paladin Zulithe' (I like Zulithe's name, so I used him as an example). Instead, I'm seeing *****s go about Graal2001, pretending to RolePlay (although the majority have **NO** clue what RP is, with anmes such as:

'Cleric Captain USA (Dustari)' (No offense, CapUSA. I like you, but your name makes me sick. Especially how it is now.)

'Serf Kitty (Dustari)' (I guess I never read that bit in history when they talked about people called 'Kitty' being surfs. Especially walking and talking cats called Kitty.

There are tons more, but these were the only two I noticed while I wrote this.

Cool names, huh? I only wish we could re-write our history and legend-packed books to where Sir Lancealot could be called PimPin2001 and King Arthur could be called King WoofWoof.

But, okay; let's ignore that. This is Graal2001 after all. No one knows the meaning of an original name, nor do they have any idea what RPing is. So, let me continue:

All of those people with unrealistic roleplay names were recruited hastely during or before the Kingdom Events to help gain us favor. I recruited about 50% of them, Lyndzey the other. A good portion of yesterday and today I have spent changing their nicknames to something that is more reasonable. So as far as the names go, that is a recent problem and it is one being delt with. It is a top priority. It was also a mistake.

Captain USA today changed his name. Now as for Kitty, it might not be the greatest name but who is to say there are not bipedal feline races on Graal? That is what I was going off of. I've spoken to Kitty before reading this about a name change (I don't mind it so much but something more serious would fit better), it is in the process of completion.

(My post is getting too long, so I'll finish with a list.)

1) The Zormites were AWESOME when they first came out. Hiryuu worked so hard on them and their history, and what happened? These stupid little fish-bomys were created, publicized, and made tons of people want to be Zormites JUST so they can be these dumb little fish-bomys. I made a preiction that soon enough all the Zormites would tire of the little bomys, and sure enough, they did; right after Hiryuu quit his loving kingdom, because he couldn't stand that it turned into a damn laughing stock. I liked the Zormite Kingdom a lot. But now, I go there and see some stupid hardly intimidating little fish guarding the throne room, and it makes me sick. Also, since when do castle have an area called the 'Run'nJump' area? I guess I missed that part in the movie First Knight, when they all went to do some fun running 'n jumping after they won a war.

I loved Zormites, I'm sad that it turned out the way that it did. If someone would speak with Stefan about the problems like above it could still be fixed. It still has a lot of potential.

2) Ever noticed that the Dustari have a CAPTURE THE FLAG area outside their castle? When I saw this, I was speechless, for once. All I could do was sit in my chair and twitch. I don't understand. I just DON'T UNDERSTAND, why there would be such a stupid non-RPing event in the RolePlaying area of Graal2001. Oh wait, I just answered that - this is Graal2001. It makes no damn sense.

You mean our trophy? That trophy was well earned, if you go to the Samurai castle you'll see the same sort of trophies. Same with Bomy Gang.

When your roleplaying on a game like Graal, you need to accept certain facts. Like that not everyone is going to roleplay, not everyone is gonna LIKE you roleplaying around them, and that many things going on in Graal are not roleplaying related. Like Events, so we gotta work around those issues. The Kingdom Events were fun, but they aren't part of the roleplaying continuity. So when you see the trophy just ignore it while roleplaying, but outside of roleplaying it's pretty cool. Hopefully we can redo our courtyard and put the trophy there instead. Dunno yet.

3) The Samurai kingdom was flawless. Sure, the farming area is pretty lame, with the NPCs that say 'Apples are cute! :-)' and crap like that. But, soon enough, it will be as crappy and hilarious as the other two kingdoms. In fact, it's starting already. Have you seen their castle gates lately? They're guarded by ferocious, walking, surprisnlgy not-talking, cowboy CACTUSES. According to some people, Drakaden drew those for us. Man, I wish I were cool and could get payed for drawing cactuses. I envy his genius-like mind. How does he come up with these things?

Well by now you know the story of the Cactuses, since THT posted. I'm not too fond of them, but they aren't all that bad. THT wants his Kingdom to be unique, not just some clone of some 80's Samurai flick or John Woo film. Like Dustari, it will have some Japanese elements but it is its own entitiy too.

I don't know what to do, honestly. I'm a Police on Graal2001. I like helping people, despite how badly they treat me, and despite the fact that they call ME corrupt, simply because someone else makes them mad. I hate not being able to RolePlay on there like I was able to at the beginning, but it doesn't bother me TOO much, sicne I can RP on Valikorlia.

But still.. I thought Graal2001 would be great, given time. I could see three divisions of a normal PKing and newbie infested world that would be DIFFERENT, filled with people that had brains, and people who could RolePlay.

I was wrong.

Thanks for reading.

-Andrew Dennis.
-Malak Giegue.

Lots of Roleplaying is going on still. I just ran an RP event shortly before reading this and I'll probably run more later. The other Kingdoms might have died out we're determined not to let that happen with Dustari ^_^ I draw upon everything as source material for the storyline. In fact I am in the process of writing the Dustari timeline, once it is finished it will be posted on GraalNet on the same page as the Zormite history. Keep an eye out for it.

We have all sorts of things in store for Dustari. But the majority of them are on hold while Asuka is on vacation.

[Zulithe]

Originally posted by Spunky2000ca
You got a lot of good points malak
If these kingdoms are supposed to be for RPing then get rid of the stupid things that u mentioned. Such as the zormite transform. This is getting outta hand. The kingdoms should be "Downsized" if its for RPing, then build the castle or whatever, make a tag system. and leave it to that. There shouldnt be things like the Dustari's own bar, and farming area. And the samurai are in my mind, the least "modernized" kingdom. Though the walking cowboy cactuses outside are pushing it. The Zormites are.... well.. just.... gone. They onle resurfaced cause of the kingdom wars. And the pirate crew. They arent bad. in fact, they are second to the Samurai. but like i said, downsize things like the Dustari kingdom, and just get rid of Zormites. Turn their castle into an underwater quest or something.

The main reason Dustari is so large is becase the other Kingdoms don't have the perseverance that we do. And our exclusive areas need not be removed, they are tools for roleplaying and we use them as such. We have those little extras because we work at it.

[Malak]

Zulithe, you seem to be missing the point here.

Medieval overtones, medieval genre, whatever. it's still RolePlaying, and it has NOTHING to do with what goes on in non-RolePlaying games nowadays. Your CTF trophy doesn't belong on the damn side of the bridge. Make an OOC room for places that have to do with the events OUTSIDE of RolePlaying. It makes no sense, otherwise.

RP events? People RPing? Hardly. I see people Pking, and saying things like 'he is did ur mjaesty cna i have 5 gralat' (of course not that exactly, but you get my idea).

And I believe THT was going for a complete Samurai look. If you'll look at his post, you'll notice he said that he didn't make the cactuses for the Samurai Kingdom. He's agreed with all of my points, and thus I would say that he as well doesn't want to see these RolePlaying Kingdoms intertwined with Graal society. They should be SEGREGATED, per say.

Sorry, but I just don't think those arguments you brought up against my complaint were that great. You seem to be one of the people who WANT the mixing of RolePlaying and normal Graal stuff. That's stupid. It just doesn't make any sense. If you want twists and turns, don't add a damn CTF trophy. Add things that make SENSE in the style that your Kingdom is based on (i.e: I would maybe add some pretty basic technology, to slowly make it look like a developed medieval world, like in FFT, if you've ever played it. That's just an example, though, and that' just me.)

Anyway, thanks for replying.
-Malak

[activeconvict]

Hmm, not much to say there.

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
I wish stefan would be nice and give samurai and zormites and pirates the cool bonuses that dustari have. I also wish stefan would make the samurai castle because a LOT of people are waiting for it and i think it would make a better improvement than some silly minigame

you aren't in the swordsmen! if you are, i'm going to have to kick you! ;( -dozer

MalakKharlia: Post a reply, d00d.
Marle Illusion: why?
MalakKharlia: CUZ
Marle Illusion: everything I would say has been said.
MalakKharlia: Still.
MalakKharlia: Say something like 'Malak has pretty eyes'.
MalakKharlia: @_@ look into them bebe.

[Malak]

Haha, I am funny. Or retarded. One of the two.

Eh...Malak, there are 2 trophies on the Samurai castle...

[Malak]

I never said there weren't. I just didn't mention them because I forgot about them. Dustari's the main problem, in my opinion, anyway.

[Zulithe]

Originally posted by Malak
Zulithe, you seem to be missing the point here.

Medieval overtones, medieval genre, whatever. it's still RolePlaying, and it has NOTHING to do with what goes on in non-RolePlaying games nowadays. Your CTF trophy doesn't belong on the damn side of the bridge. Make an OOC room for places that have to do with the events OUTSIDE of RolePlaying. It makes no sense, otherwise.

RP events? People RPing? Hardly. I see people Pking, and saying things like 'he is did ur mjaesty cna i have 5 gralat' (of course not that exactly, but you get my idea).

And I believe THT was going for a complete Samurai look. If you'll look at his post, you'll notice he said that he didn't make the cactuses for the Samurai Kingdom. He's agreed with all of my points, and thus I would say that he as well doesn't want to see these RolePlaying Kingdoms intertwined with Graal society. They should be SEGREGATED, per say.

Sorry, but I just don't think those arguments you brought up against my complaint were that great. You seem to be one of the people who WANT the mixing of RolePlaying and normal Graal stuff. That's stupid. It just doesn't make any sense. If you want twists and turns, don't add a damn CTF trophy. Add things that make SENSE in the style that your Kingdom is based on (i.e: I would maybe add some pretty basic technology, to slowly make it look like a developed medieval world, like in FFT, if you've ever played it. That's just an example, though, and that' just me.)

Anyway, thanks for replying.
-Malak

Well, Stefan placed it there, we didn't really have any say in the matter. Stefan organized the Kingdom Events so we participated, and we won a trophy, and now it is by our bridge. It isn't such a big deal! It is just a tiny yellow trophy. If Asuka wants it moved then it will be moved. Don't yell at me about it. And besides, technically it is OUTSIDE of our Kingdom, it is on the other side of the moat, it poses no problem.

You seem to be harping a lot about the trophies. Why don't you walk your little self right on over to the Samurai Kingdom and take a look at their castle, eh? Like I said, they have two trophies there but I don't see you complaining about that.

And yes I run small organized events for members of Dustari. Like quests and such. Just because people outside of Dustari are unware doesn't mean it doesn't take place. I'm also trying to get Pirate Crew to work along with us so that we can get some events happening between our Kingdoms but I don't see the leader of Pirate Crew online much. Nor do I ever see more than, say, one or two pirates on. But even THEN they are still the second most active Kingdom.

As for PKing, if you come around the castle, yes you are in danager. Nobody i allowed to enter the castle unless they request an audience. Again, these are guidelines that Asuka set himelf. The bridge stays up because othewise we have masses of people coming to PK *us*, so for those complaining about not having access to the castle, well, you can blame your fellow Graalians. How can we roleplay when we have so many people coming to disturb us.

Now, in the future once the town is open, hopefully we will be able to keep the castle gates open most of the time. We'll have it open durring the day and when it turns night we'll close it (or better yet maybe we'll script it to close at night and open at daybreak)

About Segregation... the Kingdoms are pretty much as Segregated as they can get from everything else, apart from the recent Kingdom Events that took place. This isn't Val, at its heart it isn't a roleplaying server. We are just trying to work those elements into G2K1 without causing any real disturbance. So ideas like Fai's, saying we should move everything to our own Island, I don't fully agree with that. (Though I do think Pirate Crew needs its own Island to be their base, like any self-respecting Pirate Crew would have ) We will try to work roleplaying in, but while we run RP events at the same time some ET could be running a CTF contest so we have conflicts like that happening all the time. It isn't a winning battle, but there is a demographic for roleplaying on Graal and I hope that they will come join us.

[Zulithe]

Originally posted by Malak
I never said there weren't. I just didn't mention them because I forgot about them. Dustari's the main problem, in my opinion, anyway.

I was typing when you made this comment so...

So then your only arguements about Dustari now are the people who don't rp, the people with unreasonable names, and the newbies in Dustari.
All of these conditions are being fixed at this moment, but I need names! We can't be there every time and see who is and isn't roleplaying.

[Malak]

I guess I was a little hasty in my post. I didn't add everything I should have added. Anyway, yeah, I know about all the things you mentioned.

I know Graal2001 isn't like Val, where the heart is based on RP. And yes, it's all about making the players happy. However, aren't we players, as well? And aren't we paying customers? And, as paying customers, don't we have the right to fight for the things that this large-ish group of RolePlayers want, that would make Graal, in our opinon, a better, safer, cooler place? If the non-RPing players bug Stefan about things, he gives them it, right (usually anyway)? So, I think we have the right to keep bugging him about giving us PERFECTION. Paying customers are supposed to get perfection, or damn near close to it, not whatever the owner thinks is cool. It's exactly the case with the Zormites. The fish race was supposed to help the Kingdom be even cooler, by adding in a little fish race for them. Instead, Stefan decided to let everyone be Zormites, to let everyone be a fishie, and to make them as popular as the damn bomys.

Yes, it's his world. He created it. He can do what he wants.

To an EXTENT. We pay. We deserve what we pay for, not second-rate quickly put together ideas.

[CrazedMerlin]

Yeah i got sick of graal2001 thats why i hardly ever play anymore i dont like the fact that you need to spend most of your time just to get money. Also how are such different time periods of kingdoms suppose to fit together? I mean theres Samuri and Medivel and fish and pirate....it just dosent fit