Dictatorship Or Democracy?

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by BigMonster

However I did win this Ironman and I have positive gang stats.

-> Era was definitly no dictatorship in the last 9months.

Ironman has never meant anything. It just shows you're better at selected events than the players currently online. Anyone can win any of them under the right conditions (like me and gravity race, should there be no one else online).

Hell, Nick won it twice in a row by grabbing a lucky block and not having to spar against Corey one time or the other.

Anyone with a gun, or access to p4's should have positive gang stats. You still lost the betspar 3-0.
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Time for my rant:

Era's never been a dictatorship since the Manager never even has all the power. Now don't get me started on the PWA... (I'm totally joking guys, we fam).

But really, the position has been more of a babysittership in recent memory, the same general team has just held it for almost 4 years now since we routed the Chris Vimes regime (high5 Zeus). And no Manager themselves has gone in with the eagerness to build their own team, or make the big calls and mix things up. It's mostly just been a rotating door of monotony with some freelance spice of the Coders that have been around the entire time doing solo projects.
Ex;
-Gang system? Alfonso with assistance of Rogue & Wil... Vulcan hadn't even logged in for 2 months.
-New Bases/Raiding/Everything assigned to above? Wil, Blonkt, & I dev servered all that **** under their nose, I forget who gave us access.
-New Gmap? Mesh & Rogue... Tim was doing idk... we were locked away on a dev server.
-Southridge? Rogue, Steven_Hess, a few other level/dev artists doing their own little corner... the punchline is MD was sitting in his office USDing.
-Quests? Fewyn/Klayton & Catmater did 'em with Blue and probably Tim... MD still in the office, I was busy finding the logs that got him fired or I might have been helping my bro Fewyn.
-Betflipping? Fidel & I invented it, Bluemelon coded it... Zach was making youtube videos with his guitar.
-Achievement System? Sage solo'd it, I stepped up to help him fill it out, no one else could be bothered that's why it's useless today... Fidel was idk skyping me about how the Grizz are gonna win it all. Steph Curry.
-Entirely New/Old Business System? Moon got the backups and I spent literally 30 straight hours compiling information for every single gun/melee/bomb 2x over (there were a lot more guns then...) and compounding it for probably 4-8 materials per gun, with their own 6? separate properties. I don't even remember the 8 hours doing the shops themselves... but nobody ever saw this cause Zach got mad at Blue one night or something and everything Moon had ever touched got deleted off the server and Blue quit for a weekend. Sorry guys.
-Inventory/Mall/Tutorial/Everything else Tim has done on his own including stepping up to try out my Gang Draft concept... where da managers?
-Client Filebrower/Daily Rewards(You're welcome GK)/Among the millions of gadgets the rocking Azul Melon has gifted Era on his own time... normally resulted from a good spamming from yours truly.
-Gun Skins/Mucho Developmentos from my favorite Mexican whenever he's offered tacobell http://imgur.com/ECUfQUJ. (Yes that was about 4 monitors ago)

God, I could go for hours.
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Basically what I'm trying to get at, and I'm sure you can all see the trending theme here, is the recent Managers (I'm avoiding the word never) rarely had anything to do with the product that is the Era you all enjoy today based on the most recent updates. So.. I don't get why this thread matters?

@PWA
A new approach should be taken with this position rather than just phoning the next babysitter when the previous one calls out sick. Get someone who will bring in new teams, new ideas, and actually make something out of the server; rather than banking on the last 50~ average playercount to stay with this new babysitter... cause you're already down to half in just 2 years of this tomfoolery.

Idk, maybe I'm just too volatile or something.
Cat out-

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Ironman has never meant anything. It just shows you're better at selected events than the players currently online. Anyone can win any of them under the right conditions (like me and gravity race, should there be no one else online).

Hell, Nick won it twice in a row by grabbing a lucky block and not having to spar against Corey one time or the other.

Anyone with a gun, or access to p4's should have positive gang stats. You still lost the betspar 3-0.
-----

Time for my rant:

Era's never been a dictatorship since the Manager never even has all the power. Now don't get me started on the PWA... (I'm totally joking guys, we fam).

But really, the position has been more of a babysittership in recent memory, the same general team has just held it for almost 4 years now since we routed the Chris Vimes regime (high5 Zeus). And no Manager themselves has gone in with the eagerness to build their own team, or make the big calls and mix things up. It's mostly just been a rotating door of monotony with some freelance spice of the Coders that have been around the entire time doing solo projects.
Ex;
-Gang system? Alfonso with assistance of Rogue & Wil... Vulcan hadn't even logged in for 2 months.
-New Bases/Raiding/Everything assigned to above? Wil, Blonkt, & I dev servered all that **** under their nose, I forget who gave us access.
-New Gmap? Mesh & Rogue... Tim was doing idk... we were locked away on a dev server.
-Southridge? Rogue, Steven_Hess, a few other level/dev artists doing their own little corner... the punchline is MD was sitting in his office USDing.
-Quests? Fewyn/Klayton & Catmater did 'em with Blue and probably Tim... MD still in the office, I was busy finding the logs that got him fired or I might have been helping my bro Fewyn.
-Betflipping? Fidel & I invented it, Bluemelon coded it... Zach was making youtube videos with his guitar.
-Achievement System? Sage solo'd it, I stepped up to help him fill it out, no one else could be bothered that's why it's useless today... Fidel was idk skyping me about how the Grizz are gonna win it all. Steph Curry.
-Entirely New/Old Business System? Moon got the backups and I spent literally 30 straight hours compiling information for every single gun/melee/bomb 2x over (there were a lot more guns then...) and compounding it for probably 4-8 materials per gun, with their own 6? separate properties. I don't even remember the 8 hours doing the shops themselves... but nobody ever saw this cause Zach got mad at Blue one night or something and everything Moon had ever touched got deleted off the server and Blue quit for a weekend. Sorry guys.
-Inventory/Mall/Tutorial/Everything else Tim has done on his own including stepping up to try out my Gang Draft concept... where da managers?
-Client Filebrower/Daily Rewards(You're welcome GK)/Among the millions of gadgets the rocking Azul Melon has gifted Era on his own time... normally resulted from a good spamming from yours truly.
-Gun Skins/Mucho Developmentos from my favorite Mexican whenever he's offered tacobell http://imgur.com/ECUfQUJ. (Yes that was about 4 monitors ago)

God, I could go for hours.
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Basically what I'm trying to get at, and I'm sure you can all see the trending theme here, is the recent Managers (I'm avoiding the word never) rarely had anything to do with the product that is the Era you all enjoy today based on the most recent updates. So.. I don't get why this thread matters?

@PWA
A new approach should be taken with this position rather than just phoning the next babysitter when the previous one calls out sick. Get someone who will bring in new teams, new ideas, and actually make something out of the server; rather than banking on the last 50~ average playercount to stay with this new babysitter... cause you're already down to half in just 2 years of this tomfoolery.

Idk, maybe I'm just too volatile or something.
Cat out-

Betflipping. I had actually made a ticket about it and offered you to betflip your pbp (which i won) You can replace fidels name with mine. Just sayin'

[Rave_J]

If you guys want change on era then everybody just quit and go play another server until they want to listen to you guys. That is really the only power players has. Just do a 48 hour lock out with no one on their and see if they listen after that

[Rave_J]

Why not change things around and pick a Noob. I remember Chrisz era he hired Ningnong as a asst manager with only 2 hours on the server. I wish Skyld would come back and take manager i would go for that

[GanNing]

If the Heat win again...

[Tim_Rocks]

I also made the business system twice. The first version used the transparent black GUI and was overall confusing to use. The current version has an improved layout.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Betflipping. I had actually made a ticket about it and offered you to betflip your pbp (which i won) You can replace fidels name with mine. Just sayin'

Trim quote pls just to what you respond to. <3

But no, me and Fidel invented that ****, we commandeered shrimps island house and sat on a rug in an empty ass room with Nas and some other guys we PM'd betflipping in rounds of 3.

After that (fidel won all my ****) we took it to the streets so I could get rich again, Tre got involved and eventually I bet-flipped you too (with a PR since Tre refused to pay... he still owes me a SMGPK).

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

I also made the business system twice. The first version used the transparent black GUI and was overall confusing to use. The current version has an improved layout.

Yes, yes... many of Rocking Tim things, we know. That's all just more reasons behind my point. I more or less just listed the big things I see daily/was apart of to personally describe.

Melon-Cat 2014

[shrimps]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Trim quote pls just to what you respond to. <3

But no, me and Fidel invented that ****, we commandeered shrimps island house and sat on a rug in an empty ass room with Nas and some other guys we PM'd betflipping in rounds of 3.

After that (fidel won all my ****) we took it to the streets so I could get rich again, Tre got involved and eventually I bet-flipped you too (with a PR since Tre refused to pay... he still owes me a SMGPK).

Melon-Cat 2014

Oh yeah, I remember that, man even that one time in PyroTech that random noob took me for 1mil.

[Godzilla]

Couldn't agree more with Rogues post, the management position is thrown around a lot.

I think we can all agree that most, if not all the people who post on the forums just want to see this game shine again. Something we haven't seen in a long time is a manager who actually posts and takes this forum seriously. I saw Amsel posting quite a bit recently, that shows me there is light at the end of the tunnel, atleast for now.

[Sinkler]

Simply: Dictatorships work.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

Simply: Dictatorships work.

If you believe so then please provide evidence? Give examples of how it's turned Graal PC into a wonderful game?

From the years I've played era i see a massive decline in everything. If dictatorship works like you say it does then surely things would have been growing and improving all those years instead of declining?

[Spikedude]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

If you believe so then please provide evidence? Give examples of how it's turned Graal PC into a wonderful game?

From the years I've played era i see a massive decline in everything. If dictatorship works like you say it does then surely things would have been growing and improving all those years instead of declining?

Part of the decline in era is inevitable due to the fact that we will never be able to compete with like Skyrim and GTA 5 as a video game (or other MMORPGs like WoW and Eve). It gets increasingly tough to generate interest in a 2-dimensional game. The fact that it's free now is definitely a big plus; it would be nice if we could get some younger people interested again so they can pass it on to their friends (as young people are always looking for fun things they can do with friends for free).

[Fidel Castro]

Originally Posted by Spikedude

Part of the decline in era is inevitable due to the fact that we will never be able to compete with like Skyrim and GTA 5 as a video game (or other MMORPGs like WoW and Eve). It gets increasingly tough to generate interest in a 2-dimensional game. The fact that it's free now is definitely a big plus; it would be nice if we could get some younger people interested again so they can pass it on to their friends (as young people are always looking for fun things they can do with friends for free).

This.


It's incredibly hard to increase interest in Era when the interest in Graal PC itself has steadily declined for a number of years. With the introduction of iOS playerworlds and the success (for the most part) those have seen, it's understandable why Stefan et all would turn their focus towards that platform, but it also had sped up the decay of Era and the other few PC playerworlds that are still alive.

Without that constant innovation/support to make the platform better as a whole there is a moderately low ceiling on what playerworld management is able to do to increase playercounts and compete with the likes of the aforementioned.

You can however find ways to retain existing players, hopefully leading to word of mouth advertising, and steal those select players that come from the mobile platforms to see what this PC mumbo jumbo is all about.

On another note, congratulations Amsel! You're an intelligent guy whose able to serve as a swiss army knife of being a developer as well as being someone who is approachable / knowledgeable enough to also deal with player-related issues. I have no doubt that you're going to do an excellent job.

[Zongui]

yeah, veterans are basically the only type of players that are keeping era alive. I mean graal has been out since the 90s or whatever and era since 2001/2002. I really don't think era losing players has to do with the direction that management has taken era, for I think the main reason has to do with just natural stuff. dunno what it is called. and it doesn't help that pretty much everyone lags like crazy even with a decent connection.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Spikedude

Part of the decline in era is inevitable due to the fact that we will never be able to compete with like Skyrim and GTA 5 as a video game (or other MMORPGs like WoW and Eve). It gets increasingly tough to generate interest in a 2-dimensional game. The fact that it's free now is definitely a big plus; it would be nice if we could get some younger people interested again so they can pass it on to their friends (as young people are always looking for fun things they can do with friends for free).

It's not free in the terms that they have decided to make the game free. It's been toggled off and forgotten to toggle it back on. People still have the big blue "welcome to era, upgrade...." on top of their screens.

Nobodys comparing it to Skrim and GTA that would be insane to do so. Graal PC has the potential to be huge but where is the advertising? There is none? With proper advertising & lag free servers you would be surprised how massive this server and others could become.