Now Hiring for Esteria... - Page 4

Demisis_P2P · #**121** 02-08-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362

Is that part of the agreement actually legally binding? It seems rather sketchy.

Nope

NicoX · #**122** 02-29-2012, 01:36 AM

Looking for one more Pixel Artist. Also willed to pay. For more information please PM me on Forums or inGame.

Thank you.

NicoX · #**123** 09-04-2012, 01:10 PM

Hiring:

1 Pixel Artist, should also be able to create GANIs (Paid job)
1 Scripter (Paid job)
1 LAT (Paid Job)

PM me via Graal or Forums if you want some details.
Thank you.

smirt362 · #**124** 09-04-2012, 07:25 PM

I thought Elk was working with y'all?

NicoX · #**125** 09-04-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smirt362

I thought Elk was working with y'all?

Not anymore. I realized that good Developers are not willed to work for free anymore, like in the good old days. Thats why I dont mind paying them for their work.

Task-wise, weekly, monthly, hour-based, could be all discussed.

Crono · #**126** 09-04-2012, 10:38 PM

Money and LAT in the same post...

On one hand it seems awesome and I should try it out, on the other I'd probably feel guilty at the end. wat do?

FaLLChiLD · #**127** 09-04-2012, 11:18 PM

$:time spent for aesthetically pleasing/functional leveling work doesn't add up. From what I've heard the kettle stays black in the game design career field all around though.

Crono · #**128** 09-04-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD

$:time spent for aesthetically pleasing/functional leveling work doesn't add up. From what I've heard the kettle stays black in the game design career field all around though.

I obviously don't mean it in a serious fashion, but a small chunk of money on the side for something I perceive as easy? y not u kno...

NicoX · #**129** 09-04-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

I obviously don't mean it in a serious fashion, but a small chunk of money on the side for something I perceive as easy? y not u kno...

I am willed to pay very well for also very good work. Elk started with an inside tileset, it should of course meet this standards so it can get finished one day.
I was thinking about a complete tileset (inside only) of about 300-400 usd. Depends on the quality and quantity.

FaLLChiLD · #**130** 09-05-2012, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono

I obviously don't mean it in a serious fashion, but a small chunk of money on the side for something I perceive as easy? y not u kno...

ya i kno, I was going to add the fact that it pretty comes down to developing simply because the enjoyment, with the added bonus of receiving a cpl bucks

BlueMelon · #**131** 09-05-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

I am willed to pay very well for also very good work. Elk started with an inside tileset, it should of course meet this standards so it can get finished one day.
I was thinking about a complete tileset (inside only) of about 300-400 usd. Depends on the quality and quantity.

woah woah. You're willing to spend that much money for a tileset?
Thats insane! Why are you paying people to develop for your server? Where do you get this kind of money?

xXziroXx · #**132** 09-05-2012, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon

woah woah. You're willing to spend that much money for a tileset?
Thats insane! Why are you paying people to develop for your server? Where do you get this kind of money?

In the real world, there's this thing called a "salary" that you can get from doing actual work.

BlueMelon · #**133** 09-05-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

In the real world, there's this thing called a "salary" that you can get from doing actual work.

This is graal we are talking about.

Paid devs would give a higher quality work, but still is it worth paying 300-400 usd for quality on a development server?

Hezzy002 · #**134** 09-05-2012, 03:00 AM

I don't think investing several hundred dollars into something with which you will gain no profit out of whatsoever, and is technically a job, is a particularly good idea.

NicoX · #**135** 09-05-2012, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hezzy002

I don't think investing several hundred dollars into something with which you will gain no profit out of whatsoever, and is technically a job, is a particularly good idea.

Well, there are people who are wasting hundreds of bucks into other hobbies, so I am doing the same for this Hobby. People should stop caring for what Im spending my money.

Crow · #**136** 09-05-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon

woah woah. You're willing to spend that much money for a tileset?
Thats insane! Why are you paying people to develop for your server? Where do you get this kind of money?

I'd say that 300-400 bucks is actually a pretty low price for a tileset. Not sure how many tiles we're talking of course.

Tim_Rocks · #**137** 09-05-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Well, there are people who are wasting hundreds of bucks into other hobbies, so I am doing the same for this Hobby. People should stop caring for what Im spending my money.

The reason we are "concerned" is because not a lot of server make it. It takes a long time to get any kind of attention to your server (to become classic, hosted, iServer) and spending that kind of money on something that might flop would be a waste.

Side note, in all seriousness, the levels and tiles look great!

NicoX · #**138** 09-06-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

The reason we are "concerned" is because not a lot of server make it. It takes a long time to get any kind of attention to your server (to become classic, hosted, iServer) and spending that kind of money on something that might flop would be a waste.

Side note, in all seriousness, the levels and tiles look great!

Well if I am wasting that much money for Graal, I would make sure it wont just fail

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But thanks for the compliment!

Crow · #**139** 09-06-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Well if I am wasting that much money for Graal, I would make sure it wont just fail

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I have a feeling it will anyhow

Tim_Rocks · #**140** 09-06-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

I have a feeling it will anyhow

Yeah, and feel free to prove us wrong, if that's what you're willing to do, but I really do think you'll just end up wasting your money.

BlueMelon · #**141** 09-06-2012, 05:51 PM

Even if it does reach hosted/classic... was it worth the hundreds of dollars put into making it?

Crow · #**142** 09-06-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon

Even if it does reach hosted/classic... was it worth the hundreds of dollars put into making it?

If it's truly his hobby to command and pay a couple lemmings who do all the work, sure.

NicoX · #**143** 09-07-2012, 07:46 AM

Ok however repped me like that, I want to mention:

Yes the idea came up 1 year ago, but how you know the progress is like 10%, did you see it urself? I doubt.
And to clearify this, nobody should tell me how I should waste my money. I dont know why people put their nose in every **** honestly. If you dont want to apply just dont post on this thread and stop repping me for this crap. This is not a Thread where I ask you for ur opinions.

Next posts which has nothing to do with my announcement will be Reported.

TStorm · #**144** 09-07-2012, 08:00 AM

Some people are getting nervous Nico, that's all...

Elk · #**145** 09-07-2012, 12:09 PM

Regardless of the selfproclaimed developers knowledge about game design, 10% is still a lot for a game that Nico is planning to create, as I was partially responsible for alot of stuff including concept design, creating assets, and basically everything graphically oriented...

He has already made the right step into looking for developers outside of graal and also offering a little pocketmoney for the effort... A game like this with as few developers that worked on it would have taken atleast 2-3 years for it to be a final polished version...

Scoper · #**146** 09-08-2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

This is not a Thread where I ask you for ur opinions.

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin

We plan on using it for a forest town, we are still playing around with ideas to make it look realistic. If you have any suggestions please let us know

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Thanks for your opinions !

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Hello,

little Tileset update. Please tell me ur opinion/critism !

Thank you very much.

3 times in ten pages isn't much, but I suppose it only does take once.
On another note, I'll apply. pm me for info.

PhantosP2P · #**147** 09-08-2012, 07:43 AM

Scoper, didn't you just get done saying you would never play due to his opinions on the other thread?

Anyways, I don't see the big deal with offering people money for their time. We try this on Valikorlia to a limited degree and it works well, except for when the developer skips town with our cash. I've spent thousands of dollars on Valikorlia over the years. Whether it's buying classic accounts, web hosting, or promoting the community by holding conventions or actually having people live in my house, I think Graal has the opportunity to be more than just a hobby for some.

Frankly, I'm surprised people balk at the idea of working for money, when most replies in threads like these are, "Why should I work for free?" Very strange.

Scoper · #**148** 09-08-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantosP2P

Scoper, didn't you just get done saying you would never play due to his opinions on the other thread?

Right, but I didn't want to break his 'don't post if you don't want a job' thing, and how else was I to voice my opinion?

still interested in job and stuff, for sure. pm me.

NicoX · #**149** 09-08-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoper

still interested in job and stuff, for sure. pm me.

We are full. Thank you anyway.

TStorm · #**150** 09-08-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

We are full. Thank you anyway.

Hmm. You have an extremely small Staff Team...

Galdor · #**151** 09-08-2012, 02:34 PM

Felix_Xenophobe · #**152** 09-08-2012, 06:13 PM

why do people care about what nico does with his money...

NicoX · #**153** 09-08-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

why do people care about what nico does with his money...

jealous, probably.

Crow · #**154** 09-08-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

jealous, probably.

You haven't developed anything yourself, though, have you? At least they're not jealous of you, then.

NicoX · #**155** 09-08-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

You haven't developed anything yourself, though, have you? At least they're not jealous of you, then.

Crow, I didnt no. But why should I when I can pay all the developers I need for it? Atleast I am trying to finish something, even if I have to "waste" money.
Please stop posting in this Thread. I hope you respect my request.

Crow · #**156** 09-08-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

I hope you respect my request.

I do, so this shall be my last post here.

Clockwork · #**157** 09-10-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Crow

I do, so this shall be my last post here.

Don't worry, he's just jealous of your ability to develop.

On an off-note, I'd just like to inform people that Esteria had pretty much nothing when I left (Elk might have added a bit, but he never works for long). Nico is an awful person to work for to boot, nice when you're working for him, and hateful towards you when you're not.

Scoper · #**158** 09-10-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork

Don't worry, he's just jealous of your ability to develop.

On an off-note, I'd just like to inform people that Esteria had pretty much nothing when I left (Elk might have added a bit, but he never works for long). Nico is an awful person to work for to boot, nice when you're working for him, and hateful towards you when you're not.

I formally withdraw my offer to work for you Nico. You do not sound like a nice person, and I do not believe your feigned promises of the big moneh in the future

Geno · #**159** 09-10-2012, 07:22 AM

spend your money wisely nico. on substances for self abuse, gentelman's clubs or good videogames.

NicoX · #**160** 09-10-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork

Don't worry, he's just jealous of your ability to develop.

On an off-note, I'd just like to inform people that Esteria had pretty much nothing when I left (Elk might have added a bit, but he never works for long). Nico is an awful person to work for to boot, nice when you're working for him, and hateful towards you when you're not.

I would like to know when I was hatefull towards you ? You worked out some stuff yeah, then you gone inactive, THEN when Elk appeared to help out, you wanted to come back but I didnt allow it.

Elk revamped alot of tiles from scratch and did a great work, great concepts and more. We will continue there, where he stopped.

And for your information, you didnt leave, I fired you.

P.S. Scoper, dont worry, I am paying my Developers. Always did and always will. I keep my promises.