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Old 12-17-2006, 09:41 PM
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Would it violate the ToS if a playerworld made a scripted currency of their own that required players to pay for it?
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:51 PM
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Would it violate the ToS if a playerworld made a scripted currency of their own that required players to pay for it?
It wouldn't violate the ToS but there's various "rules" that exist external to the ToS. In any case, it would be highly unlikely that it would be allowed since it could expose Cyberjoueurs to liability.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:23 PM
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Could this be enabled per server?
Maybe allowing servers owners to make some money?
Of course, some/most would have to go towards graalonline.
Well graal's largest problem is making profit, or atleast making enough profit so that the company owning it doesn't have to worry about it costing them tons of money.

Graal online isn't suppose to make other people a profit, servers that are played by "everyone" (the gold and classic servers) could use a global currency shop system and try to balance the differance in what it costs to keep the server up and how many people that upgraded play it...

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It might be fine for official servers but it would be a disaster on playerworlds, where playerworld staff and managers will inevitably manipulate the system.
The classic servers allowed to use the system should be overseen by a global on a periodical basis. And as for corrupt managers and the staff that they manage.. there will always be a risk like that. Managers should make sure that staff cannot give out stuff if they aren't allowed to do so (simple? or not ?)
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:31 PM
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Well graal's largest problem is making profit, or atleast making enough profit so that the company owning it doesn't have to worry about it costing them tons of money.
Interesting. May I ask you where you've got that information from?
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:50 PM
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Interesting. May I ask you where you've got that information from?
Probably the thread Unixmad made not too long ago saying Graal wasn't making a large enough profit to support itself and that they needed to think of some new options.

Just a guess though
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:04 PM
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Probably the thread Unixmad made not too long ago saying Graal wasn't making a large enough profit to support itself and that they needed to think of some new options.

Just a guess though
I know this thread. Perhaps I missed something, but for me it doesn't sounds like the company has a great pressing problem. He just explained his decisions and told us what would happen if the company would give more and more things for free.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:08 PM
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Perhaps I missed something, but for me it doesn't sounds like the company has a great pressing problem.
I don't think Petrol, or whatever his name is, was saying it's a pressing problem - but it is a problem. Perhaps I missed something

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Ask yourselves if it is profitable for us when someone buy a 29$ subscription and play for years with no new subscription. I have already made calculation and if I add computer costs, datacenter costs, bandwidth, human costs… We are loosing money.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:21 PM
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Call me crazy...

But I highly doubt penny penching Unixmad is losing money on Graal. I don't doubt he's making small profits, but If he was losing money, you'd be getting something like this when you go to forums.graalonline.com :


I mean seriously, he's not running this game out of the kindness of his heart. He'd pull the plug or sell the rights (If there are even any) in a second if he wasn't earning income off of it...
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:07 PM
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unixmad also said that money isn't everything to him

and i still think that adding such a feature will simply kill the community in terms of balance. like i said, i dont want to see little rich noobs owning me on zone because their parents can afford to buy them everything. :/
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:12 PM
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But I highly doubt penny penching Unixmad is losing money on Graal. I don't doubt he's making small profits, but If he was losing money, you'd be getting something like this when you go to forums.graalonline.com
Unixmad's behaviour is erratic when it comes to the profitability of Graal. He uses profit as a justification for requiring players to buy or at least get staff positions on servers in order to test scripts online, but then when we point out how his forum policy is hurting profits, he goes "LOL IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!!!1"
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:14 PM
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LOL BUT ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!111

might i add "cash" items ruined Gunbound
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:43 AM
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LOL BUT ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!111

might i add "cash" items ruined Gunbound
It ruined it for you.

I'm sure it vastly improved it for its owners.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:52 AM
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Can you imagine paying for something and then the playerworld getting shut down for whatever reason?
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:57 AM
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Can you imagine paying for something and then the playerworld getting shut down for whatever reason?
For that very reason, this honestly could only be used on gold worlds and maybe very reliable playerworlds. Preferably ones that are helped by high staff. Like Era, or maybe Zodiac. Classic.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:54 PM
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It ruined it for you.

I'm sure it vastly improved it for its owners.
The owners aren't the ones playing the game now are they?
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