A few ideas to promote growth

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Googi

If you guys was advertising so much, just go to other forums and post about Graal.

I've actually been emphasizing improvement before advertisement.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I've actually been emphasizing improvement before advertisement.

I don't think advertisement would accomplish much. I'm just pointing out to the people saying there should be advertisement that they can do it themselves without having to spend money.

Originally Posted by Stephen

I would like to think the majority of players have an interest in development, if only passing - and that their initial attraction was increased by the idea of "developing their own game", even if they never pursue it.

This is pure speculation. Everything that can be observed suggests that the majority of players have little interest in development. It's possible that they all secretly harbor desires to become developers (for the sake of developing, not for local server power, etc.) but we have no reason to believe that's the case.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Googi

This is pure speculation. Everything that can be observed suggests that the majority of players have little interest in development. It's possible that they all secretly harbor desires to become developers (for the sake of developing, not for local server power, etc.) but we have no reason to believe that's the case.

A good portion of the players are trial. I said it earlier, and again now - their goals are probably not as defined. I feel a lot of gold, and even classic players, enjoy development on some level.

With that aside, the point is moot and distracting. The overall goal is to improve Graal in whatever way a group may see fit... not to convert everyone into developers.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Zone, as I recall, started out as a player project and Stefan took over. Now it is again run by players. And so is GK.

The manager, Tigairius, is a member of the PWA. Additionally, Dan is a paid staff member.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The manager, Tigairius, is a member of the PWA.

He wasn't when he got hired, and he would still be Manager even if he didn't join the PWA team.

[Angelu]

Graal is a epic fail as development platform.
There are opensource 2d mmorpg enginges out there so why develop in Graal ?
You, your friends and all other people can play it for free when you work with an opensource engine
instead of graal where you have to pay for the access and the development tools which have no support or updates...
Graal was free in the beginning too with all the tools so i dont understand why we have to pay for it now ...
(If you want your own server for sure you have to pay the server costs)
I know Unix and Stefan have to eat but its the wrong way to exploit graal like this
So the best is to hope that they become rich with the iphone games and graal becomes free again
There are other ways to get money out of it then with additional things

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

He wasn't when he got hired, and he would still be Manager even if he didn't join the PWA team.

I'm not sure what agenda you're persuing - but the point stands that currently the gold servers are run by the Graal Online administration.

Originally Posted by Angelu

Graal is a epic fail as development platform.
There are opensource 2d mmorpg enginges out there so why develop in Graal ?
You, your friends and all other people can play it for free when you work with an opensource engine
instead of graal where you have to pay for the access and the development tools which have no support or updates...
Graal was free in the beginning too with all the tools so i dont understand why we have to pay for it now ...
(If you want your own server for sure you have to pay the server costs)
I know Unix and Stefan have to eat but its the wrong way to exploit graal like this
So the best is to hope that they become rich with the iphone games and graal becomes free again
There are other ways to get money out of it then with additional things

Graal is a business, not a kindergarten. They're not making piles of money from Graal Online, so it's understandable that they have to pursue more aggressive business strategies. As I said earlier, I would rather not make this political.

[MiniOne]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Graal is a business, not a kindergarten. They're not making piles of money from Graal Online, so it's understandable that they have to pursue more aggressive business strategies. As I said earlier, I would rather not make this political.

I agree, though their aggressive (as you call it) way towards business is far too aggressive, they've over priced and the quality of their product is nothing compared to the other products in this modern world of technology.