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Old 03-16-2007, 05:50 AM
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Illegal copies? I have not heard of Microsoft suddenly selling it for less.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:29 AM
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89 Euro here (since you can buy OEM version without hardware in Germany the price is easy to detect ) I have heard in the US it is a few percent less, but I wouldn't consider it cheap.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:48 AM
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Illegal copies? I have not heard of Microsoft suddenly selling it for less.
Don't put words in my mouth, NO, they are legal copies. Even the price of Vista has dropped in my state.
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:31 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth, NO, they are legal copies. Even the price of Vista has dropped in my state.
Asking a question is not putting words in your mouth
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Old 03-17-2007, 03:18 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth, NO, they are legal copies. Even the price of Vista has dropped in my state.
I only said that legal copies of Vista are not cheap. Any URL of a shop that sells it for cheap?
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:43 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth, NO, they are legal copies. Even the price of Vista has dropped in my state.
Devil, mate - I know it's out of context but don't turn yourself into an Excalibur. We all know what happened to him. You're a good guy just turn down the mildly accusative posts a little.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:59 AM
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Well i managed to fix the playerlist problem by just going to to folder and setting graal4.exe to run as administrator
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:43 AM
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Well i managed to fix the playerlist problem by just going to to folder and setting graal4.exe to run as administrator
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does it work?

do someone think that graal problem can be fixed?
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Old 03-15-2007, 03:33 PM
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:34 AM
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I don't even know that website, it's the first one I found.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:50 AM
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AUD $999, to USD 793.584, $595.875 EUR

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Old 03-19-2007, 05:34 AM
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So you haven't even used Vista properly?

Come back when you have an experienced opinion on it.
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Old 03-21-2007, 04:10 AM
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Oh, and I just found out, all uni students in Australia can now buy Office '07 or whatever it is, for 75 dollars!

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Old 03-21-2007, 10:26 AM
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The edumacation discounts are always pretty wicked. Only things better are MSDN subscriptions which are super expensive but give you 10 licenses to like, everything microsoft - and getting complimentary copies of software right from the man himself (Booyah).

Got free vista ultimate full edition for helping them test the upgrade feature (only one who managed to bluescreen the installer - rofl), and free office 07 pro for going to their "ready for a new day" vista/office launch event ;D
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:29 AM
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For me, Vista hasn't finished beta stage until the first service pack is out .
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:36 AM
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For me, Vista hasn't finished beta stage until the first service pack is out .
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:49 PM
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That's silly.
I could agree with him tbh.
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:06 AM
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I could agree with him tbh.
I find it more stable than XP.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:28 AM
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Same here Minoc, Graal is the only program that doesn't work.. and I've got A LOT of programs installed. All running perfectly.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:12 PM
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that fixed it for him? i saw one of his posts from a day or two ago and he is still having problems? i'm pretty sure i have all the right drivers though, i ran windows update and nothing is coming up there either.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:26 PM
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Unfortunately I kept installing the better drivers and doing system repairs becase many of the settings were improperly set. Well it either runs so nicely now, graal runs about 300% faster then it did before and it just thinks my memory or something is too leet for it and it just crashes or never runs at all now.

It doesnt bother me much, other then that fact that its waisting about a week of my graal account time now because I can't get on and just play like I should be able to.
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:04 PM
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Erm....any chance that anyone can tell me when this problem will be fixed (with Vista), or is there anything I can do to fix it. I cant download things from login, Graal Edior and such. Also On login theres a lot of black and i get disconnected sometimes with these error messages. Any help please
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:03 AM
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hehe if you got vista theres another way...
use the control panel / look for computer management and then change the hard drive size using shrink harddrive if you got enough room...

then on the new empty space...
install a linux XD or you could try an older windows like xp again...

oh yea do notget rid of the backup partition that would be bad XD

I am gonna install linux so I can play without the crashing until it gets fixed XD
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:16 AM
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hehe if you got vista theres another way...
use the control panel / look for computer management and then change the hard drive size using shrink harddrive if you got enough room...

then on the new empty space...
install a linux XD or you could try an older windows like xp again...

oh yea do notget rid of the backup partition that would be bad XD

I am gonna install linux so I can play without the crashing until it gets fixed XD
That's exactly what I did, except with Windows XP. I cannot get good 3D in Linux. The only problem with Windows XP, though, is that my sound card has no drivers and the Vista drivers do not work.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:07 AM
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eh I was gonna install linux... but by the time I found one without the keyboard and or mouse not working... (debian works I guess...) I am now afraid to install debian linux since it does not tell you what it is actually gonna do... I thought I had everything right but I don't seem to like the loader commands they sorta don't tell you everything you need to know when your knew at linux XD plus it did not detect my internet stuff... so eh gonna probably install windows xp on this computer and dual boot
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:45 AM
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You should try Ubuntu, it is Debian for desktops and quite user-friendly.
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I second that, only if you want user friendly, get Kubuntu.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:57 AM
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this is the error i get when i double-click on a player on the playerlist.

and also, sometimes when the clouds pass by on classic. they look distorted.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:22 AM
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yea thats where I get the problem though...
1st is that I have for some reason a non working mouse in ubuntu but my keyboard works ... dunno why... also i would have to find drivers for my wireless internet to hook it up...

kubuntu failed alltogether no mouse no keyboard... I am gonna try with ubuntu again since debian is mostly evil looking at least I understood ubuntu...

I have linux running on an old 233mhz pentium 2 and I wish I could get that pc hooked up again to check what one it is... I think it has the same interface as kubuntu...

I really want to get ubuntu to work since I have the dual boot guide for it... my pc came with windows vista home premium " as a free upgrade " even though I specifically said I did not want it... all I wanted was windows xp... T_T eh oh well they refunded me 100$ for the mistake haha


also since I have no vista install cd... I can't install windows xp on the 2nd harddrive since I need to do a fix/reinstall of certain things... eh at least with ubuntu there is a site that shows how to change the grub loader XD

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Old 04-17-2007, 08:22 PM
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After renaming the graal4.exe i've had no problem with the runtime error's accept i still get random crashes now and then. Graal4.exe has stopped responding and needs to close is the error i'm getting currently on Windows Vista Ultimate. I also experience some lag issues while loading the playerlist on RC for some reason. It doesen't happen all the time it just happens now and then.
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:46 PM
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After renaming the graal4.exe i've had no problem with the runtime error's accept i still get random crashes now and then. Graal4.exe has stopped responding and needs to close is the error i'm getting currently on Windows Vista Ultimate. I also experience some lag issues while loading the playerlist on RC for some reason. It doesen't happen all the time it just happens now and then.
Final or RC1/2?

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You only get UAC dialogs when something requires administrative privileges, meaning when you're changing some settings in the control panel, installing new programs, and some isolated instances where a regular program needs admin privileges. You see the most UAC dialogs when you are first setting everything up after installing the OS. I haven't disabled anything and it doesn't get in my way. It's basically sudo with a GUI.
THANK YOU for telling them that.

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Nononono man, Kubuntu! >:}

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Old 04-18-2007, 07:51 AM
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I can't get the keyboard/mouse to work so far on kubuntu...
I am currently reading the fix lists and stuff on the site... by this weekend I want to have it all fixed...

also I have a wireless network card and it does not seem to be detected so I might have to get the dvd version so I can get the drivers... not sure if my network card cd has drivers for linux... I never thought to check haha...

actually I really want to install kubuntu and not ubuntu... I like how it looks alot better but since the live boot cd is what I am using now and can't get a keyboard or mouse to work in that and in ubuntu live cd I can only get the keyboard to work... I am gonna try the disable legacy usb stuff quick fix and see if that works... but not today since I tend to get a bit obsessed and might not get to sleep till really really late... its already almost 2am T_T and I know I will not fall asleep till at least 3 - 330...

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Old 04-18-2007, 12:51 PM
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Most of my graphics in probably all the servers i visit is distorted, even light graphics. When i press [x] button on my Graal client to close it, i get error message. PMs i get error messages. It's just a whole huge mess, and yes i downloaded the latest graphic driver.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:08 AM
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ohh so many things I have to print out for info on how to get my wireless card to work... T_T so much work why why why XD haha its sorta annoying but if I can get it to work I will be so happy... at least until graal quits crashing in windows vista... in that case poof byebye linux XD eh maybenot... dunno anymore... I finally found guides for somestuff but when I tried a quick fix for the mouse / keyboard to work so I could install linux it just decided it hates me and still no mouse... and no keyboard either on kubuntu...
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:31 AM
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The new Ubuntu has just been released. I have heard the #ubuntu irc channel on freenode is quite good for getting help
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:07 AM
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Ooh, i'm going to have to get my grubby hands on that then. Whats the project name for it? i.e. "Edgy Eft"
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:06 AM
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