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Old 07-19-2006, 07:58 AM
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Chirss anybody with graal level editor can make a level for godsakes. Managers mostly need someone who can do all of thee above such as :nat, gat, lat, gani or more like nat. Someone that can script like a god can make a server good (such as skyld) Maybe we will see the old era were money wasn't like i got 2k in 1 hour by picking flower, more or less we need something like 500 a hour or even less I dont see the point in hiring you in the first place. Your just another player like everybody else that says they can do a level but most likely it will look like crap.
And the funny thing is everybody is crying about atleast let use have 1 weapon. Ok yeah lets do that and guess what! what about the people who go my gang gun and your like "WHATZOR NOZOR!!!" and cry about it to staff saying "plz mke gng gunzor awazyble". Its sad how you people will cry over a stupid reset when you never even put faith into people. Sure people screwed up era a few times. But think of the better times? Less money getting throwed around means more rare items are and which in return I don't see a nub with 20hrs running around with a good weapon but yet only fighting skills they have is to run and shoot backwards.
At first I wasn't a fan of the reset in the past but now to think about it... It will benefit most of era give it a fresh new bar of soap .
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:59 AM
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All i see is a repetative cycle, and constant waste of my online hours at hand.

Era is destroying my love for it. Some day, i won't ever want to play here again, and i don't like wasting my time. Im sure nobody else does either.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:13 AM
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Here, Open up several npc shops that sell ammo.

JACK UP THE DAMN PRICES OF AMMO.

like 500$ a box, eh? There cash problem solved.

There ARE OTHER WAYS.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:33 AM
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I think all the fat kids who have every gun in the game and like 400k should quit crying like little nerds. It's just a game. I know it means the world to you because it's all you have but quit complaining. It's not the end of the world. It's ridiculous that you're whining and arguing over this crap. Get a life.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:36 AM
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Here, Open up several npc shops that sell ammo.

JACK UP THE DAMN PRICES OF AMMO.

like 500$ a box, eh? There cash problem solved.

There ARE OTHER WAYS.
Why do you care? You clearly showed your attitude towards Era ingame.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:40 AM
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Also..for all of you that have everything on the game...What else is there left to do? You have everything. All that you can do is "PK" which gets incredibly boring after a while. Honestly I'm getting tired of this game. It has its limits. Maybe this reset will do all of your little fat fingers some good.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:40 AM
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SkyID, how precisely are you planning on compensating people for their gym levels?
I'm currently level 10 speed and level 5 strength. That's somewhere around 75 hours of gym training.

Before you answer, please go and try to do 1 straight hour of treadmilling. Then just ATTEMPT to multiply that by 60 in your head.

Then do 1 hour of strength training, and multiply that by 15.

Yeah. Please. What the hell.


Also, Terisu Family has been selective on who it sells its gang weapon too, and only has 1 leaked weapon.

So um... yeah, there must be some way to compromise here.

Rather than resetting the entire server, why not target problem points? Would it not be possible to find areas that have caused problems, alleviate find a resolution for the issue, and offer appropriate compensation to any parties who have suffered loss?

In the case of people having ridiculous amounts of money, that's mostly from scamming. Have a look at Nubszz, he is (or was the last time I checked) the richest guy on Era. Incidentally, he has barely done any work himself. He just suckered a whole bunch of people. There's no way to stop that, really. People are always going to be stupid, and others greedy and ambitious.

Me? I never had the knack or willpower for scamming. I've spent over 250 of my 744 Era hours sweating it out in the mines, digging seashells, shooting targets, picking flowers, delivering letters, doing taxi runs for the mafia, running treadmills and lifting weights, all to make my gaming experience more enjoyable. I only earned 30 odd thousand, but with that money and the friends I've made in Era, I've earned a katana, a car, a pair of colts, a pinecone egg or two, a famas, an MS, a few BHers and various event prizes. I have also been given a unique hat from my friend, adding to my collection of other paraphenalia. I'm in a guild (the best on the server ), and have positions in Dairy Hut and Ninja. Did I mention that I spent 75 effing hours in the gym?

The people who are voting "yes" to the reset are both too lazy to earn their perks like I have, and too ethically motivated (or just plain stupid) to sucker people in the fashion of Nubszz.

While I was enduring the monotony of the less enjoyable aspects of the game for the sole purpose of PERMANENTLY improving my future gaming experience, these people were running around shooting people and spouting such wisdom as "2ez nub" and "omg noob HAHAHAHA", not to mention the rather more vile insults hurled about.

Why should these people that have not taken the time and effort to take advantage of the game system that the admin team has put in place have the right to cut my legs out from under me?

I paid for this game, and I certainly paid for the perks that I've acheived. I do not want them taken away from me.

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Old 07-19-2006, 08:47 AM
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SkyID, how precisely are you planning on compensating people for their gym levels?
I'm currently level 10 speed and level 5 strength. That's somewhere around 75 hours of gym training.

Before you answer, please go and try to do 1 straight hour of treadmilling. Then just ATTEMPT to multiply that by 60 in your head.

Then do 1 hour of strength training, and multiply that by 15.

Yeah. Please. What the hell.

Just quit like the majority of Era's community, and I.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:14 AM
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If you plan on a reset, why would you need a new overworld? It's asif you're taking this project as a walk in the park. Anyway; If you decide to create a new overworld, hopefully it'll be ready after Christmas - fully functional, new quests etc which would be worth the wait.

If that's the plan, whilst you're developing the new overworld Era is going to be running on classic. Well, knowing that it's going to be reset and what not I highly doubt players will be interested in Era untill after the reset. How will you keep the players interested knowing their work upon Era is going to be deleted anyway?

Hrm, I haven't thought about it - my opinions could change. My current opinion is too leave Era the way it currently is but heavilly modify it. I haven't submitted a vote yet. Please persuade me more with your plans before I make my decision.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:17 AM
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In all honesty, all you'd need to do to fix the economy is disable all businesses' weapon sales, take a tally of the number of weapons of each type on Era and their respective costs, and adjust their stats and production costs accordingly.

Most of the people that have been consistantly asking for a reset based on the "Economy being ****ed" are just complaining that it's possible to work hard and get good results in this game.

If they want to be able to peak out their character's ability early and have everyone truly equal, they should go play UN.

If on the other hand they want to acheive an advantage over the other people on the server, they should expend the time and effort to do so.

I've only been playing since January/February this year, and I'm doing pretty damn well.

I CERTAINLY do not want the time I've spent to be wasted on their behalves.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:53 AM
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This is silly, All Era does is run for a couple months until people can afford stuff and then it goes for a reset. We dont need to have a reset to fix the economy, there are many more simple ways to fix it. You can change the price of ammo, make money harder to come by, get rid of player owned buisnesses and set guns to higher prices. If however a reset is inevitable, players should be partialy compinsated by allowing them to choose 1 item out of there inventory to keep. If the reset does happen thier should also be no gang guns and only tag locked buisness guns to reduce the selling of guns for higher profits.
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:07 AM
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Your right, i don't care. Not anymore. Maybe i don't care that Skyld obviously doesn't know how to handle this job.

Im done hoping that era would be better, back to where it used to be a long time ago.

Thats why i destroyed my items at unstick me, instead of feeding the ****ed up economy.

Im sick of where Era has gone, and i no longer want a part of it.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:02 PM
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This is silly, All Era does is run for a couple months until people can afford stuff and then it goes for a reset. We dont need to have a reset to fix the economy, there are many more simple ways to fix it. You can change the price of ammo, make money harder to come by, get rid of player owned buisnesses and set guns to higher prices. If however a reset is inevitable, players should be partialy compinsated by allowing them to choose 1 item out of there inventory to keep. If the reset does happen thier should also be no gang guns and only tag locked buisness guns to reduce the selling of guns for higher profits.
At what point did taglocked biz guns become more valid than taglocked gang guns? What aboud people with gang weaponry and no biz weaponry?

Could this perchance be because you only have gang weaponry? *SHOCK HORROR*
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:33 PM
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Skyld wants to keep the small bizes. Don't worry, that means the economy will get screwed up again and you'll end up losing that one item in the long run anyway.
I'm not sure if you read what I wrote but I said that small businesses would be moved out of the weaponary area and into tertiary areas. I thought that small businesses should have two or so weapons to sell, but Hachi disagrees, so I will leave that decision to him.
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Skyld, what I heard is that you demoted and made your self Manager. You are absurd. Go away. There's better people for manager.
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Firstly, if you are going to reset, do it SOON! Era is going to lose players again if everyone has to wait around in a "pre-reset" world. The last time we had to wait for the reset, it was horrible and the player count dropped tremendously.
If Era were to be reset, I do not really want to rush the process. I would want to make sure that things are right and spend some time making it right.
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MORE STAFF!
The number one complaint from everyone that plays Era is that the staff do not reply. You guys are busy, we know. Staff should be hired that have limited powers, but are there for the sole reason of helping people.
They should almost always on their staff tag and can help with everyday problems such as glitches and people issues..I know I can vouch for half of Era when I say that several Player Relations admins would be awesome.
That can be done.
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Second, small businesses were a complete disaster. If you insist on keeping them make many changes. Create a minimum price that each item could be sold for, a reasonable one. The bizs were constantly lowering their prices for competition to the point where they were losing money to sell them.
Small businesses would stay but again would be changed. Hachi had a long list of problems with them and I asked him to fix them. That's up to him.
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Third, gang weapons ****ed up the economy too. I agree that gangs should have their own weapons, but don't make them so outrageously good. If they have to be that good, don't make them so easy for the gang to create. Make the prices as high as the quality and "l33tness" of the weapons.
Hmm, would have to see about this one.
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Fourth, if there is a reset, don't give the same old people their gangs and businesses. A reset is a reset and it is only fair if they are reset just like everyone else.
It's undecided if the same gangs and businesses would be there after the reset. It might be good to introduce a whole new range, but that's not decided yet.
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Skyld, player bizzes should NOT HAVE CONTROL OF WEAPONS. A place run with temporary ownership and half-assed working will really set a bad example on behalf of large businesses and guns in general. Please do me a favor and keep the biz system away from weapons (I know you refuse to get rid of it, despite my belief and previous power. Think on a scale of importance, not what Stefan thinks.).
If you think that is best, go for it. I won't argue with your judgement, because you seem to have a better idea on small bizzes than I do.
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If you're not going to get rid of the small businesses how are you going to keep control of the economy?
By following Hachi's suggestions and changes and keeping them away from major selling points.
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How are you going to stop gangs from losing meaning?
Possibly each gang having the same member limit, having only select people being able to recruit, improving gang bases, working out ways to give gangs an incentive to raid other gangs (perhaps a serverwide status board, some sort of randomly generated reward? opinions, please)
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How are you going to maintain the rarity of the gang guns?
By making sure that only gang members can have them.
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SkyID, how precisely are you planning on compensating people for their gym levels?
I'm currently level 10 speed and level 5 strength. That's somewhere around 75 hours of gym training.

Before you answer, please go and try to do 1 straight hour of treadmilling. Then just ATTEMPT to multiply that by 60 in your head.

Then do 1 hour of strength training, and multiply that by 15.

Yeah. Please. What the hell.
I am not entirely sure how the gym system is working, but ideally it would give a much better boost (being able to carry even more items, maybe being able to use melee weapons faster)
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In the case of people having ridiculous amounts of money, that's mostly from scamming. Have a look at Nubszz, he is (or was the last time I checked) the richest guy on Era. Incidentally, he has barely done any work himself. He just suckered a whole bunch of people. There's no way to stop that, really. People are always going to be stupid, and others greedy and ambitious.
The amount of scamming that has occured makes it difficult to just go back and solve problems like that. One of my primary points of thought is improving the item trade so that it is more reliable, making it easier to access and endorsing it's use. There are too many people who just drop items without thinking about it and that can't really be helped.
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If you plan on a reset, why would you need a new overworld? It's asif you're taking this project as a walk in the park. Anyway; If you decide to create a new overworld, hopefully it'll be ready after Christmas - fully functional, new quests etc which would be worth the wait.
The current overworld has had so much thrown into it over time that it hasn't been very well thought out. Introducing a new overworld allows us to ensure that everything we have that we want now fits, whilst catering for additional things, such as quests, new areas, etc.
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Your right, i don't care. Not anymore. Maybe i don't care that Skyld obviously doesn't know how to handle this job.
There is a good reason why I ran this poll, and that is to find player's opinions. If the majority vote was 'Leave things the way they are', I would not reset the server.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:46 PM
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Your right, i don't care. Not anymore. Maybe i don't care that Skyld obviously doesn't know how to handle this job.

Im done hoping that era would be better, back to where it used to be a long time ago.

Thats why i destroyed my items at unstick me, instead of feeding the ****ed up economy.

Im sick of where Era has gone, and i no longer want a part of it.
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