New leader for Zormite-Who could it be?

[Sam]

As I stated before: at the moment nobody knows what happens next. Let's wait and see what Alarico will do.

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

You are not supposed to be able to change the rank of people with the K right or remove people with the K right from the kingdom. It isn't okay no matter what the circumstances. You are supposed to get the previous kingdom leader to contact Stefan to have it changed to the new leader. WE WENT OVER THIS IN THE PAST.

I see it different: this is the only way to do a revolution. At last we still have the Court of Chancery (Administration) to decide things. But for now: wait.

[Divided]

Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard z.z. Staff are here for reasons like this but I see how you wanted Googi and Bosh out of your hair ...

[lordbosh]

Originally Posted by Sam

As I stated before: at the moment nobody knows what happens next. Let's wait and see what Alarico will do.

I've been told by Forest and Dustari members that the kingdom will be given to someone of their choice, and bjorn agreed to this.

Originally Posted by Sam

I see it different: this is the only way to do a revolution. At last we still have the Court of Chancery (Administration) to decide things. But for now: wait.

How about having a fight, a real fight. Make each side fight the other for dominance. And dont tell me this wont be done because im stronger, you know stronger usually = more time on the game. Over 3000 hours entitles me to a way more strongly heard opinion than someone with 200 hours.

And you know I am the perfect leader, militarily or politically. Dont fear me, support me. I am a player, and I have many friends who play here, and pay money to play.

How unfortunate if that stopped happening.

[MasterNuke]

Originally Posted by Sam

As I stated before: at the moment nobody knows what happens next. Let's wait and see what Alarico will do.



I see it different: this is the only way to do a revolution. At last we still have the Court of Chancery (Administration) to decide things. But for now: wait.

What Alarico will do? HE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

And revolution of what? Exactly how many members out of Zormite agreed to this? We're they all aware that what they did is considered illegal? All I see is Alarico and people OUTSIDE THE KINGDOM.

I think this whole thing is rather convinient for you, Sam? Perhaps the rumors are true and that you promote bug abuse whenever it benefits you greatly? I guess allowing Alarico to abuse the kingdom system was a quick and easy way to get people off your back, eh? Oh... don't you remember the leveling exploit that you announced as legal? But oh, coincidently when I noticed your experience wasn't going up for a long time, it suddenly becomes a priority to get rid of the exploit. But I won't jump to conclusions... I'll let someone else do that.

Edit: Oh... and please don't edit my post. I want to see a real response that doesn't involve your use of admin powers.

[skyler87]

...Hm. Just want to point out afew potentially brilliant ideas here.

Sam:
Let's just cut the BS and go ahead and make a kingdom called (Misty Mug Tavern) and pillore the entire population of those who refuse to join for 1,000 hours and get it over with quicker. You had me convinced that you were legit staff, but eh, I should've known that you were no better than Jagen with your little Golden Edge that just happened to be doing massive fire damage to me. Oh yeah, find and internet GF and start making items for her, that'l help us get you fired faster, and maybe the next admin will stay uncorrupt for a little longer than you did.

Whoeverthehell is the deciding influence in the decision of what happens with Zormite:
Look at the situation, take it for what it is. How many Zormite members wanted Googi "overthrown" and whoever this newb Alarico is to take her place? I've never even heard of him, how is he fit to all at once be my new king..? I assure you that I am not the only one who sees the situation from this perspective.

Ed:
I don't think you could be any more on target with your post. It was indeed against the ORIGINAL rules that I've played by for the past three years for this to happen in the slightest manner (Well, I guess Sam coming along changed them?). It is reallly highly convenient for him, and bug abuse does seem to be a said field of specialization here. Sam is a super admin, always so busy making GK a better place, but he still found time to level three times as high as I have in my two thousand hours of online time. Is it actually an exploit now that he's finished with it?

I've put up with this garbage every since playing this server, but I've got to hand it to you Sam, I've never seen it peak like this. People running around with phys level 110, which is theoretically impossible to do legitimately without putting in an online time of approx. 13k hours (my math might be a bit off, try it for yourself on the assumption that the player has an unlimited amount of brutal maps (hmmmm)). A damn pub that's central well being takes precedence over that of the 5 major kingdoms. Has GK finally become marred beyond repair?

[Divided]

Originally Posted by skyler87

I've put up with this garbage every since playing this server, but I've got to hand it to you Sam, I've never seen it peak like this. People running around with phys level 110, which is theoretically impossible to do legitimately without putting in an online time of approx. 13k hours (my math might be a bit off, try it for yourself on the assumption that the player has an unlimited amount of brutal maps (hmmmm)). A damn pub that's central well being takes precedence over that of the 5 major kingdoms. Has GK finally become marred beyond repair?

Its been there

[Draenin]

Alarico illegally hijacked the ranks. It's the same thing xAndrewx did a while ago with Samurai.

Restore the leadership to the way it was or Zormite's in trouble.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

What Alarico will do? HE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Tell it to those who gave him the rights, I didn't.

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

And revolution of what? Exactly how many members out of Zormite agreed to this? We're they all aware that what they did is considered illegal? All I see is Alarico and people OUTSIDE THE KINGDOM.

See what I've posted earlier in this thread.

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

I think this whole thing is rather convinient for you, Sam? Perhaps the rumors are true and that you promote bug abuse whenever it benefits you greatly? I guess allowing Alarico to abuse the kingdom system was a quick and easy way to get people off your back, eh?

Who leads a kingdom is all the same to me, I have not to deal much with leaders. I am only a adviser for leaders, players and the main administration. The whole story of Zormite and the last war was never my business.
The leadership started a war to hit me personally, but they didn't get it I stated not to be active in CP nor in this war.

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Oh... don't you remember the leveling exploit that you announced as legal? But oh, coincidently when I noticed your experience wasn't going up for a long time, it suddenly becomes a priority to get rid of the exploit. But I won't jump to conclusions... I'll let someone else do that.

At last I posted this: thread party bug
You see I didn't know that it was a king of bug.
At last if I really used this bug, do you think I wouldn't be lvl 107 in any skill? But I am still far away from that. And maybe you should ask the players that asked me the last 10-15 month, when I will finally be able to bless +9. My last jump being able to do +8 was the halloween fest in the halloween house, by killing bats and pumpkin lords.
But thats's not the topic here.

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Edit: Oh... and please don't edit my post. I want to see a real response that doesn't involve your use of admin powers.

There is no reason for me to edit your post, I don't fear discussions.

Originally Posted by skyler87

...Whoeverthehell is the deciding influence in the decision of what happens with Zormite:
Look at the situation, take it for what it is. How many Zormite members wanted Googi "overthrown" and whoever this newb Alarico is to take her place? I've never even heard of him, how is he fit to all at once be my new king..? I assure you that I am not the only one who sees the situation from this perspective.

I don't want to jugde a book by it's cover, so I cannot say what the bigger part of members thinking about Googi and his leadership, nor I am able to estimate how active he was as leader.
For me he was a good choice because he seems always being active and have a good knowledge of RP and the past of GK and Zormite.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

You are free to stop replying at any time.

[AlaricoMontario]

My internet was down all of yesterday past around 1PM, when I got home from Church. Sam had agree'd to whoever won the battle to have the throne. As it stands, the allies won the battle.

Both Aranel Ka-Rhyanayalia and Governor Alan Steele support my leading of the Zormite EMpire. I hope everyone else will stand behind it too.

There are more ways to make activity on Graal Kingdoms than by shoving a sword down someone's throat for a bug that might not even exist.

Any who were loyal to the Zormite Republic may come to me and request amnesty. Zoogi, Bosh, Oasa, and Darklux may request similiar positions back, under new rules. All who served in the Republican Army may request to be placed in the Imperial Armed Forces.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Sam

If.....
If my father would be Bill Gates, I would buy a Harley and a sailing ship.
There is no relevance to the problem here.

The relevance is clear. Having the privileges on a authorisation level is not equivalent to being allowed to do something, and this is reflected multiple times in GraalOnline policies.

The only way to do a revolution is demote a king. Kingdoms should do RP.

This seems to conflict. The king can, out of character, play along with the revolution and step down when he is, in character, defeated. This is roleplaying.
Using a set of scripts to exclude the king from the kingdom's administrative functions is not roleplaying.

In case of kingdom things, we (staff) don't get in action as long as we are not in urgent need.

It is my personal opinion that your stance on this issue is flawed.

Nobody of you has talk with Alarico, so why you do such a storm in a tea-cup, instead waiting what will be happen?

I have sufficient understanding of the situation to come to conclusions about the staff's position on the situation. I am not personally interested in kingdoms politics and will not assume any position there. So insight into Alarico's intentions is not necessary.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

Sam had agree'd to whoever won the battle to have the throne.

You were a part of the kingdom, *****. You couldn't have 'won the battle.'

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

Both Aranel Ka-Rhyanayalia and Governor Alan Steele support my leading of the Zormite EMpire. I hope everyone else will stand behind it too.

I don't. And if you don't return things to their proper order, I will drive Zormite back into the ground. Things were going fine until you decided to cheat your way into that position, traitor.

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

There are more ways to make activity on Graal Kingdoms than by shoving a sword down someone's throat for a bug that might not even exist.

It DOES exist. I've known about it since I joined Dustari. The logs don't lie.

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

Any who were loyal to the Zormite Republic may come to me and request amnesty. Zoogi, Bosh, Oasa, and Darklux may request similiar positions back, under new rules. All who served in the Republican Army may request to be placed in the Imperial Armed Forces.

Like hell they will. I am going to Bjorn about your immediate removal. I refuse to co-exist with such a conniving scoundrel such as yourself.

[AlaricoMontario]

You don't have too.
You're not part of this KIngdom, you're part of Samurai.
THat is where your concern should be, not Zormite.

As a leader, you sh ould be more concerned with your own damned Kingdom than with the affairs of the other Kingdoms.

And its not a cheat. If the REPUBLIC had won, Zoogi would've been reinstated. As it stands, Bosh and Zoogi and the army lost horribly.

Its a coup, read up on it Draenin.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

And its not a cheat.

Yes, it is.

Originally Posted by AlaricoMontario

Its a coup, read up on it Draenin.

No, it isn't. It's you abusing a bug with the G right. This is the reason why I don't hand out G rights in my kingdom.

[AlaricoMontario]

I could say something right now, and it'd be true... but I'd rather be the mature one.

Also, I already spoke to Bjorn. We talked, and it went along the lines of "although it wasn't necessarily right, I don't care, because you were go ing to get the rights and title eventually anyways"