Programming History of Graal?

[projectigi]

a guy of my server told me graal is using torque

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by FearXxConduct

Why Not just Get torque ? Cheap for a license(Indie License that is) and no hassle of writing an Engine =) Thats what I did =P

You still need programming knowledge to use the Torque Engine O_o

Originally Posted by projectigi

a guy of my server told me graal is using torque

I believe Graal4 is, which is why the Torque GUI editor works for generating GUI Scripts for Graal.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Hiseran

It is true once you learn at least 1 or 2 programming languages the rest ill be easily because theyre all basically the same concept but I wouldn't recommend starting with C++ I tried back when I wante dto learn prorgammign to learn C++ first before any other but that ende din failure the first programming language I learned was python wich is pretty easy so maybe you should try that first :]

This is only true if you live by the "I can write Fortran in any language!" mantra. If you write C++ like you write Java, or Python like PHP, you are not writing very good code

Also oh god use paragraphs or even punctuation

[Prozac]

I learned programming languages (some are very loosely qualified as languages) in this order:

line number Basic
DOS commands/batch files
gwBasic
Pascal
HTML/Javascript
DCL on a VAX/VMS system
Visual Basic
Perl
C++
gscript
asp
winbatch
php
gscript2

and probably some more that i haven't used in a while.

I would say, learn a procedural language first, then go for the object oriented ones. Gscript2 is a good way to learn procedural and oop and would even be a good first programming language, as it does lay down many fundamentals that are used in more advanced apps.
There is a learning curve of a significant difference between gs1 and gs2, just go gs2 all the way (even though you cannot yet use it offline ....)

[FearXxConduct]

Originally Posted by projectigi

a guy of my server told me graal is using torque

To my knowledge Graal 3D is Derived from Torque Please dont flame me if im wrong?

Originally Posted by ApothiX

You still need programming knowledge to use the Torque Engine O_o

I believe Graal4 is, which is why the Torque GUI editor works for generating GUI Scripts for Graal.

I know that but, its sure is a hell of alot easier then programming your own interface and such which is far more complicated then coding in torque script

[projectigi]

hmm so if this is already a thread to discuss about programming languages

what do you think is best for starting programming(and later making games)
1.) C++ or C#
2.) Visual Basic or Delphi
3.) Answer of 1.) or Answer of 2.)

?

[excaliber7388]

fir the first one, C++ C is a bit outdated, and is more limited. (Well, technically it's not, however, C++ IS better than C, and in some ways, easier)
As for the second one, no clue
Gscript was a great way to get started for learning C++ Learning it is easy, and can help when you learn another form of programming.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

I believe Graal4 is, which is why the Torque GUI editor works for generating GUI Scripts for Graal.

Graal is not using the torque script, but it using a compatible new-operator so that the GUI scripts are easily converted.

[Codein]

fir the first one, C++ C is a bit outdated, and is more limited. (Well, technically it's not, however, C++ IS better than C, and in some ways, easier)

It depends. C, as I'm led to believe, has no problems in cross-platform compilation, but if you were to use C++, then MIGHT have to do some porting. I find I like C alot. You can't really call C/C++ outdated, since it's still going strong today and is the staple standard for all other programming languages I've seen, apart from Visual Basic and that line of parser.

Gscript was a great way to get started for learning C++ Learning it is easy, and can help when you learn another form of programming.

Aye, same, however, there are some issues that really throw you off course. GS2, in my opinion, is better a star at programming languages with the C-type style.

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

fir the first one, C++ C is a bit outdated, and is more limited. (Well, technically it's not, however, C++ IS better than C, and in some ways, easier)
As for the second one, no clue
Gscript was a great way to get started for learning C++ Learning it is easy, and can help when you learn another form of programming.

C is not outdated. C++ is too bloated to use for small things that you need to run at a decent speed. I hardly ever have need for the STL and other C++ foundations when writing programs.

Also, he said C# (Microsoft's .Net language), not C.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

C++ is too bloated to use for small things that you need to run at a decent speed.

C++ is not inherently slower than C.

I hardly ever have need for the STL and other C++ foundations when writing programs.

You technically do not ever need to use the STL. Perhaps you should use it anyway.

[Malinko]

Ben for member of the Global Scripting Team.

[excaliber7388]

I personally think C++ can do a bit more than C, although technically you could do anything with either. It's a matter of personal prefference. However, C++ is becoming the norm.

[projectigi]

who the hell started to talk about c <.<

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by projectigi

who the hell started to talk about c <.<

Quickly looked at your post didn't realize it was C# (not that i would have known anyway XD )