The Fine Line - The Limit of Roleplaying - Page 3

Crono · #31 06-22-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

No, you're missing mine! Checkmate!

Is your use of checkmate a lamer version of owned or something?

Zurkiba · #32 06-22-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12

If people want to roleplay, they can go roleplay with eachother and other kingdoms. There shouldn't be a rule to force players to use these brackets when they don't want to use old english and long messages. :/

*slap* I thought I taught you better!

Kaimetsu · #33 06-22-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Continue the argument without attempting personal blows

You first, dawg.

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I mean, it could be the character's sister...sure , Queen would be obvious, but if the person said "My Sister"...is it the in game sister, or out of game sister?

Context, man. In 90% of cases, they'd be talking about a real-world familial relationship. Sure, it's not always possible to be sure, but that's why I said: "Isn't it usually obvious from context and content?" How often do people ask questions like "Who is that?" How often would the response be ambiguous? And do these rare instances justify mandating use of those infernal brackets at all times?

Think. For once.

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Is your use of checkmate a lamer version of owned or something?

No, not really. Couldn't you taste the sarcasm?

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Originally Posted by Gambet

It's helpful and is a quick way of learning for those new to role playing

Here's a quicker way:

"When you're speaking as your character, it's IC speech. When you're speaking as yourself, it's OOC speech".

Googi · #34 06-22-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke

I'm concerned that with all this RP enforcement. Will we be going overboard on RPing? There is a point where RPing isn't enjoyable. Along with enforcement on RPing, there should be a good amount of non-RP things to do as well. As a main server, shouldn't we be trying to please everyone instead of just the RPers?

I don't think it'll be too strict. The biggest hardliner on the team is probably Gambet, and even then it's not too bad.

Curt1zzle · #35 06-22-2005, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

You first, dawg.

Don't go there, it's ugly.

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

How often would the response be ambiguous?

Enough to use brackets for OOC.

...Dog chasing his tail?

Kaimetsu · #36 06-22-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Enough to use brackets for OOC

Again and again and again: Why would it be necessary to use them in instances where there is no ambiguity?

Gambet · #37 06-22-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Here's a quicker way:

"When you're speaking as your character, it's IC speech. When you're speaking as yourself, it's OOC speech".

The problem is that players can not always differentiate OOC talk from IC talk. Also, they sometimes speak IC while using OOC terms.

Curt1zzle · #38 06-22-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Again and again and again: Why would it be necessary to use them in instances where there is no ambiguity?

The only reason I could suggest would be for habbit. Using them in all instances would prevent the user from forgetting to use them in essential situations.

*Shrug* I'm not a big Kingdoms fan, but if I was, I would support the use of brackets. Just makes things less confusing at times.

Kaimetsu · #39 06-22-2005, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

The problem is that players can not always differentiate OOC talk from IC talk

But they sometimes can, yes? Because it's sometimes blatantly obvious, yes? So why would you mandate use of the brackets in those instances?

And have you abandoned the 'learning aid' argument now?

Googi · #40 06-22-2005, 01:08 AM

You know, this wouldn't be a problem if there was actually a set of RPing rules.

Gambet · #41 06-22-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

And have you abandoned the 'learning aid' argument now?

No?

We will continue to use the brackets as a learning aid.

Why? Because those that can role play can tell an OOC statement from an IC statement, but those that are new to it can't always do that. And, sometimes some CAN differentiate them, but they lack in role playing skill.

Googi · #42 06-22-2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

No?

We will continue to use the brackets as a learning aid.

Why? Because those that can role play can tell an OOC statement from an IC statement, but those that are new to it can't always do that. And, sometimes some CAN differentiate them, but they lack in role playing skill.

Or if you had a set of RP rules, you could use them as a learning aid. Since people could just read them, and then they'd know how to RP!

Gambet · #43 06-22-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Or if you had a set of RP rules, you could use them as a learning aid. Since people could just read them, and then they'd know how to RP!

Even with rules, we will still use the brackets x_X.

Kaimetsu · #44 06-22-2005, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

those that can role play can tell an OOC statement from an IC statement, but those that are new to it can't always do that

Yes they can. The problem isn't that these people are stupid. It's that they don't care as much as you do. You don't need training to distinguish between IC and OOC messages.

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And, sometimes some CAN differentiate them

...in which case the brackets aren't necessary.

Curt1zzle · #45 06-22-2005, 01:18 AM

Googi:

The "team" can not compensate for the stupidity of the average player. The only people who would take the time to read these guides would be the ones who already follow and abide by the rules.

Those who are too lazy to read the guides are ussually those who break the RP rules anyhow.

It's a neverending loop of laziness and stupidity.