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Old 05-23-2005, 03:20 AM
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:30 AM
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I am no way implying or saying that he did not clearly break the rules by doing what he did
If you acknowledge that he broke the rules then how can you say that the ban was unfair? He was treated at least as harshly as anybody else would've been.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:47 AM
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If you acknowledge that he broke the rules then how can you say that the ban was unfair? He was treated at least as harshly as anybody else would've been.
Perhaps the topic which he kept recreating shouldn't have be deleted in the first place? If that is so, then I think it would have been right of him to keep recreating it, even though its against the rules. Can you not remember many times in which someone who will not be named closed many threads that were discussing topics that were perfectly valid? What I'm saying is yes, according to the rules, you cannot remake threads that have been closed without mod permission. However, if that thread shouldn't have been closed in the first place, I can't blame the guy for getting angry at corrupt administration, and remaking his deleted thread. You cannot always apply black and white rules in situations that are in shades of gray.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:54 AM
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Perhaps the topic which he kept recreating shouldn't have be deleted in the first place? If that is so, then I think it would have been right of him to keep recreating it, even though its against the rules. Can you not remember many times in which someone who will not be named closed many threads that were discussing topics that were perfectly valid? What I'm saying is yes, according to the rules, you cannot remake threads that have been closed without mod permission. However, if that thread shouldn't have been closed in the first place, I can't blame the guy for getting angry at corrupt administration, and remaking his deleted thread. You cannot always apply black and white rules in situations that are in shades of gray.

Wrong.

If you feel that your thread was deleted when it should not have been deleted, then you dont take "the law into your own hands" by recreating the thread. You speak with one of the forum admins about it, rather then acting on your own. What did VT do? He acted on his own, and thus, was punished for his actions (breaking the rules).
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Old 05-23-2005, 04:03 AM
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Wrong.

If you feel that your thread was deleted when it should not have been deleted, then you dont take "the law into your own hands" by recreating the thread. You speak with one of the forum admins about it, rather then acting on your own. What did VT do? He acted on his own, and thus, was punished for his actions (breaking the rules).
This is an opinion, it can't be right or wrong. The only solid thing about this is, that yes he did break the rules. I personally don't blame him for doing what he did and I believe he was right to do so, assumeing that his topic was valid.
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Old 05-23-2005, 04:20 AM
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This is an opinion, it can't be right or wrong. The only solid thing about this is, that yes he did break the rules. I personally don't blame him for doing what he did and I believe he was right to do so, assumeing that his topic was valid.

How can one break the rules with the right intentions? That's just stupidity. VT was a global, and his actions reflected on the team itself. Everyone is treated equally, and everyone must obide to the forum rules. You agree that he broke the rules, yet you feel it was for the right reasons? You should have no reasons to break the rules at all (of course, there are exceptions in real life situations, but this is a message board for crying out loud).
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:59 AM
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This is how I see it:
- VT's banning on forums was appropiate.
- VT's leaving is still appropiate: Life > Graal.
- VT's argument that Graal he should pay while working on Graal == Appropiate.
- VT complaining he can't work == inappropiate. Use Support Desk.

I guess that's how Graal is. I was trying to get it explained some time ago that Graal should make it more rewarding to actually develope things on Graal. It's all fine and dandy. I posted a thread about things they can improve for players to further their development. This situation is equivelant to donating money to someone who's richer then you.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:29 AM
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Old 05-23-2005, 12:45 PM
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Leave it to Gambet and Lance to poison your goodbye thread.

They're your reasons and their priorities and opinions mean nothing.

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Old 05-23-2005, 02:19 PM
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Perhaps the topic which he kept recreating shouldn't have be deleted in the first place?
How is that relevant to the fairness of his ban?
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:19 PM
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Leave it to Gambet and Lance to poison your goodbye thread.

They're your reasons and their priorities and opinions mean nothing.

Best of luck my friend.

Leave it to Lance and myself to poison his goodbye thread? For crying out loud the man is weeping and complaining over horrible reasons. All of my points are valid, and just because I'm not kissing up to him, then I guess that makes me the bad guy? Sorry pal, but I don't think so.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:22 PM
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For crying out loud the man is weeping and complaining over horrible reasons. All of my points are valid, and just because I'm not kissing up to him, then I guess that makes me the bad guy? Sorry pal, but I don't think so.
Those reasons probably are very valid to him. But hey, I bet you would rather have Graal over a girlfriend right?
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:28 PM
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Those reasons probably are very valid to him. But hey, I bet you would rather have Graal over a girlfriend right?

I believe his girlfriend is the only valid reason he had. Other then college, of course. But all of his complaining and reasoning about Graal, well, they were not very good reasons.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:38 PM
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Those reasons probably are very valid to him. But hey, I bet you would rather have Graal over a girlfriend right?
I don't understand why you can't have both.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:39 PM
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Silly people. I've gone through countless girlfriends during my time playing Graal. I'm currently with one now and my playing or working on Graal has never affected our relationship, nor my avid social life. The problem is with you, not the game.
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