Scamming - Page 3

Googi · #31 12-07-2004, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nullify

I smell a new update to RC!

I smell the return of Hero McDohl!

Raziel · #32 12-07-2004, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

heh well someone gave me a item intrade tables by accident, i got ****ing banned for it, for not returning the item.

I think Bjorn said something about impersonation and/or trade table abuse.

xAndrewx · #33 12-07-2004, 09:12 AM

ah :O! I <3 raziel now though.

Kaimetsu · #34 12-07-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda

he said something like 'Anyone who drops an item is a fool and deserves to be scammed'

I really don't remember saying that.

Still, it is difficult to sympathise with these people. If they're scammed through use of a bug or some kind of deception then yeah, punish the bad guy and return the items. Other types (like when people would drop items and run between them, back when the secure trading system was introduced) are less deserving of consideration.

Raziel · #35 12-07-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

ah :O! I <3 raziel now though.

<3

Zero Hour · #36 12-07-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

I really don't remember saying that.

Still, it is difficult to sympathise with these people. If they're scammed through use of a bug or some kind of deception then yeah, punish the bad guy and return the items. Other types (like when people would drop items and run between them, back when the secure trading system was introduced) are less deserving of consideration.

I've given lots of detail on how people are being "scammed", please give a more detailed opinion on the matter, Confucius.

Kaimetsu · #37 12-07-2004, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

please give a more detailed opinion on the matter

Give me a specific example and I'll give you an opinion.

Zero Hour · #38 12-07-2004, 07:30 PM

I have a HSoD+12 (High Shield of Deflection) and a pair of Lucky Boots+12... I loan them to you, for example. You decided that, even though I was kind and trusting enough to loan them to you, you're going to keep them. Those were my items, I loaned them to you, they are yours now?

I loaned them to you using the tables, so therefor it's the staff's responsability to baby sit me.

Or in Andrew's case he was being a little jokester and got banned:

Someone was trading an item to someone else, but the other member wasn't on the table so Andrew quickly got on the table and accepted - the other party expected the original person to get on the table, and accepted out of reaction, for this Andrew was banned (As far as I understand he wouldn't give the items back, though I think they were returned later)

Kaimetsu · #39 12-07-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I have a HSoD+12 (High Shield of Deflection) and a pair of Lucky Boots+12... I loan them to you, for example. You decided that, even though I was kind and trusting enough to loan them to you, you're going to keep them

Kosher. Not the staff members' jobs to intervene in such things.

However.

It would be interesting if special contracts could be drawn up, assisted by the game server. One of the parties writes a little document, maybe adds some kind of link to the item in question (does the mudlib give unique IDs for all items?), and then submits it to the other. If both 'sign' the document then it can (and should) be enforced by game staff.

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Someone was trading an item to someone else, but the other member wasn't on the table so Andrew quickly got on the table and accepted

Guilty. Unless he returns the items willingly without intervention from staff, he should be punished.

xAndrewx · #40 12-07-2004, 08:00 PM

It isn't really a bug though. Or an glitch.
It's over now, But yeh that's how it went down. Mabie add a link some place telling them to read the GK rules.