Selling Items for USD

[Moonite]

Buying With USD is just are easier way for getting good items

[Dehitay]

Originally Posted by Splke

First off, Dehitay, your a *****, thanks.

I don't care what anybody says, kids who buy for usd are simply looking to avoid the 500 hours to get a RoW, if they have the money to buy it, and do so in a manner that does not involve the RoW being the sole item purchased, then fine.

Brad has made well over 2,000 $.
I myself have made in the mid 900's.
anU has made a nice living off of Graal.

And, if you didn't notice, Brad sells, and magically get's 'restored'. Brad is a very smart USD seller.

Note: Brad did quit his job, because he has such a nice, income, being Graal.

Call me a ***** if you like
but $2,000 isn't enough to quit a job for
I have made $4000 in a single week for stuffing thousands of envelopes for an advertising business
If you call $3,000 a nice living, I live like a freaking god
here's $2, clean my gutters, ye bumb with no idea of the value of money

[Splke]

Originally Posted by busyrobot

lmao.
Yeah, just as jealous as I am of people that scam. - oh if only I was so leet.

Yeah, if only.

I agree with that in theory, but at the same time, if someone doesn't want to take 500 hrs to lvl up, why not speed hack?

One, is illegal, one, if done properly, is legal.

What's the difference between those two types of short cuts?

^ above ^

Well, one main difference of course, is that USD items kill the plat economy with insane inflation, and make the game unplayable to most everyone other than the USD spenders.

USD did not kill plat, nor did it inflate the prices. Corruption killed plat, and inflated prices. +10 (I am not directly inferring you, or the Sagesuns, just those who accepted stacked maps) killed plat, and inflated prices.

If that is the case, it would explain why he doesn't seem to have the problem of working 500 hrs to get a RoW to sell for USD.

It is the case.
I bought from him -> I got scammed -> He and the scammer were selling the gear.

If that was true though, then GK should really just have /dm open to everyone like it is on the debug server, and we may as well as turn on warpto for everyone, maybe add a water theme park with waterslides and such too.

Now, your just being silly.

Of course then, ;_; brad would have to get a real job.

I don't know, he's 16. Shouldn't his parents be supporting him? In reality, he does not have to get a job, he just wants the extra cash, so, since he didn't want to work, he just used Graal for the extra income. Quite brilliant. ;(

Originally Posted by Dehitay

Call me a ***** if you like
but $2,000 isn't enough to quit a job for
I have made $4000 in a single week for stuffing thousands of envelopes for an advertising business
If you call $3,000 a nice living, I live like a freaking god
here's $2, clean my gutters, ye bumb with no idea of the value of money

He's 16, he gets about 500 $ a month working minimum wage half-time at KFC. Do the math.
Good for you, I'm sure it was plenty of fun.
I didn't, I said it's a nice income, keeping in mind he is manipulating people, and playing a game.
No, here's 2$, clean out your ears and put on some glasses, you ***** with no idea of how to read.

hope you can read your own style of writing

Moony, shh. K?

[Dehitay]

[QUOTE=Splke]
anU has made a nice living off of Graal.
[QUOTE]
You pretty clearly said "nice living"
and we've established MarkB has made around $3000
course he's been playing a good amount of time

and I'm pretty sure he's even older than 16
of course, those aren't his words, they're yours
you're the one who said it was a nice living
and you're the one I'm mocking for lack of ability to value money correctly

[Splke]

It's /quote.

I was talking about Brad, you didn't make clear that you were talking about Mark.

Mark is hardly 17, if that. HE has made a nice living off of Graal, keeping in mind he is still a child and does not pay for his house, bills, or anything else. And I said over 3000 if I do remember correctly. That is quite abit for just playing a game. Your ignorant.

[Brad]

I turn 17 on June 29th. I WORKED at KFC for about 3 months until I realized graal was more profitable since they gave me **** hours. My parents pay for housing, food, etc. I pay for fastfood, gas, and insurance + FUN.

[CaTigus]

Originally Posted by --Chris--

The reason it's illegal is so players don't try to hold GO staff responsible when they are scammed. Not only is scamming legal on GK but:

"---
Opposite (3/8/2004 12:52:10 AM):

Mass message:
Ok, I want to put out a general warning

If you sell items for money or trade for out of game items, You
are at risk of being scammed and we will _not_ protect the
buyer or seller, We will not say its illegal to sell items or to buy
them , But you are at risk 100%, You get no protection from
GraalOnline, This is the final word and statement on this issue


Thanks

Jessica Peterson
Graal Online"

Note: Jessica Peterson = Angel

Do We ever get protection?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by CaTigus

Do We ever get protection?

Don't deal with scumbags. Simple as that.

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Brad

Don't deal with scumbags. Simple as that.

He meant in general. Scamming itself is legal and they can't do anything to help. That's what he meant.

[LordZen]

Well that 3k figure was quite a while back when I became aware of it.

[Splke]

Originally Posted by LordZen

Well that 3k figure was quite a while back when I became aware of it.

Aye, but he also hasn't had too many sales as of late.

[Dehitay]

Originally Posted by Splke

He meant in general. Scamming itself is legal and they can't do anything to help. That's what he meant.

Scamming is illegal and they can't do anything to help
Want me to quote the Rules of Conduct for the 50th time?

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Dehitay

Scamming is illegal and they can't do anything to help
Want me to quote the Rules of Conduct for the 50th time?

Scamming is legal, Stefen himself said so. They do not condone such an act, but it is deemed legal by the current Head of GK.

[Dehitay]

Originally Posted by Splke

Scamming is legal, Stefen himself said so. They do not condone such an act, but it is deemed legal by the current Head of GK.

Stefen might have said that
but Stefan said this
"Character-owned items, such as tools, houses, and bomy pets, may be auctioned or traded within Graal's auction or trading features. If, due to bugs in the system, there are discrepancies between the buyer/seller terms and the actual result, GraalOnline will make all reasonable attempts to rectify the situation.

Any exchange of materials outside GraalOnline secured exchange locations, falls under the term 'caveat emptor', or 'buyer beware.' In other words, GraalOnline will not be responsible for rectifying broken promises, incomplete trades, etc. in such a setting. If trading outside Graal 'sanctioned' trading locations, trade only with players you can trust.

This 'caveat emptor' approach does not mean Scamming is legal, only that it is difficult to prove. If Graal Police witness a scam directly they may punish the offending player. The best way to avoid being scammed is to only trade within secure trading facilities in Graal."

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Dehitay

Call me a ***** if you like
but $2,000 isn't enough to quit a job for
I have made $4000 in a single week for stuffing thousands of envelopes for an advertising business
If you call $3,000 a nice living, I live like a freaking god
here's $2, clean my gutters, ye bumb with no idea of the value of money

Guess what? He doesn't work. He's playing a damn game (=fun) and makes a living of it.

To Padren; the reason Brad had all these cool stuffs is because he has been playing a long time, when it was able to get a mith for 200 plat. Now it's 200 USD for that.