New King of Forest

[--Chris--]

"Learn this, instead of trying to make yourself sound like a hardass. When I asked you if I could make a sub island, you didnt even give me a chance to explain you already said no. Why would I place a sub island on an Elvan island, if I was going to be like samuari fighter?"

It doesn't even have to be on my island - I'd still be against once it's at my expense as it would make me a hypocrite to not liking these things period.

"And I dont know why would wouldnt let me in my kingdom. You and I used to be cool,lol I was even in your kingdom on 3 of my accounts."

You got on my bad side by harrassing me and other staff members on numerous occasions <3

"Then lydnzey got control of samuari and she asked me to join I said yes, and you asked why I left, and again ignored my response and reasoning for leaving."

I gave Lyndzey Samurai I don't recall too well, either way I don't think I really cared much hence I ignored your response and reasoning.

"You think you are like superior to the players and me. Your not. Your obvisouly obsessed with the little power you have. Poor Guy."

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lawlim2kewl4skewl

"And Tseng decided to leave did he not?I think he was a fine leader."

No he didn't, read my response in that one thread in the Dustari forums about it. I agree, he was a fine leader - no-one can fit in his shoes.

"And I was banned for a reason, which was resolved. So the ban has been forgotten, no harm was done. And it wasnt a serious ban either, so careful on what you type"

Refer to "You got on my bad side by harrassing me and other staff members on numerous occasions <3"
Note: I'm not refering to your recent attempts to pk me and ruining an event

Narkotic guy:

The reason I hate sub-kingdoms and such is because the player-base is too small to have many + fill kingdom members. People can be in both one of these and a kingdom at the same time which = not good if not the respected the kingdom to it. They aren't always neccessarily an "rp group" either, I'd use nighthawks for that example I hate to see them attempt to take over an island or so by going on a pk spree or standing on the island while it's abandoned.
Oh, and if one were to get an island - they all would want and quite frankly I wouldn't want to see that happen considering nighthawks island has things that shouldn't be there (refer to booze in shops for around 2 gold coins - booze = rare alchemy item in shops for profitable recipe.)
I agree with you too, I like what CP does but I don't consider that a sub-kingdom or RP group/guild. Forest actually has both humans and elves as it is and different leading categories for each ^-^

[narkotic]

I was just using CP as an example; there is actually potential there for a subguild situation, although I'm sure no one will ever see it.

It's the very nature of being a pirate, if you ask me. The captains are the leaders, a governor, someone of a landlubber state, wouldn't be the leader of such a band of people. I dunno, I view the Crescent Pirates as more of an alliance than an actual kingdom. A pirate wasn't a nationality, a race, a kingdom. It was a name for people who did dasterdly things on the sea.

I agree that the player base is small. It is one of the smallest ones I've seen for an MMO. It also seems at times that the small player base has already outgrown many of the areas that are in the game. There are crowds in specific areas, mostly because there's really isn't a better spot to find the particular things that they seek, or the experience they crave.

Random alchemy, heh. I wish there really was such a thing in the real world. There honestly should be static recipes there, just make finding the ingredients random.

I think it'd be great if we had a way to distill certain things in the game. Then we'd be able to make our own alcohol, to sell and such. It'd be great to use different incredients to create different alcohols. Rice makes rice wine, tomatoe would make something disgusting... heh. Of course, they would just be rp items, with a food bonus or such, or negatives like poisoning or disease.

I was just set off about the comment in ignoring all the clans and just recognize the kingdoms. Eventually the population will increase, there's no doubt in my mind about that. The problem in my mind is, the recognition of roleplaying groups that exist NOW should start, to bring further encouragement by the others who do not follow that path. Ignoring them won't help anybody, or help them grow into respectable roleplayers.

You're right in mentioning that these groups would probably want invalid items available on their islands. This is a problem of course, but then again the higher ups authorized it or else it wouldn't be in. I think more restrictions should be put in place about that. But then again, what's more dangerous, some booze or a unique shield or sword that's accessible for their clan only?

I am eager to see what you have planned for the Forest Kingdom, and hope to see it swiftly come and difficulties not be present. Please don't take my comments as hostile, I just have my own views and opinions on the state of RP to date and hope to contribute in my stay here with the Graal community. If my ideas and comments are redundant and have already been said before (as most things are anyway, nobody really has anything unique to mention these days), then I apologize. Perhaps more focus needs to be on them then, if they are repeated so often

Also, please, call me Norm. The username doesn't do me justice, just something common that I've used along my travels in many other MMORPGS.

[--Chris--]

"You're right in mentioning that these groups would probably want invalid items available on their islands. This is a problem of course, but then again the higher ups authorized it or else it wouldn't be in. "

Stefan didn't inspect the levels I believe, he trust his staff but obviously the Samurai level maker abused this priviledge

"think it'd be great if we had a way to distill certain things in the game. Then we'd be able to make our own alcohol, to sell and such. It'd be great to use different incredients to create different alcohols. Rice makes rice wine, tomatoe would make something disgusting... heh. Of course, they would just be rp items, with a food bonus or such, or negatives like poisoning or disease."

Dude you think identically to me <3

"I was just set off about the comment in ignoring all the clans and just recognize the kingdoms. Eventually the population will increase, there's no doubt in my mind about that. The problem in my mind is, the recognition of roleplaying groups that exist NOW should start, to bring further encouragement by the others who do not follow that path. Ignoring them won't help anybody, or help them grow into respectable roleplayers."

The population would have to like multiply itself a couple of times for this to work then there'll be diplomacy problems with so many existing. Encouraging it isn't going to benefit anyone in the future but only cause more trouble with them wanting islands and such. It's better to help the official and current kingdoms grow even if the playerbase was large Ignoring them may actually help them grow into better role-players as the official kingdoms (which are already well recognised) should have higher standards and policies they would have to follow =D

"I am eager to see what you have planned for the Forest Kingdom, and hope to see it swiftly come and difficulties not be present. Please don't take my comments as hostile, I just have my own views and opinions on the state of RP to date and hope to contribute in my stay here with the Graal community. If my ideas and comments are redundant and have already been said before (as most things are anyway, nobody really has anything unique to mention these days), then I apologize. Perhaps more focus needs to be on them then, if they are repeated so often"

Thanks Norm, hehe. I like your attitude, you seem like someone that can make it big here

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by narkotic

I will take the Crescent Pirates for an example here. The heirarchy has the Governor as the 'king' or top rank. Below him are the Captains, and each captain has their own ship. Now, each ship has its own name. These ship names could easily become the names of 'clans' if so chosen, since they are individual groups, each with its own crew, own region on the pirate island that they set their houses, etc. In roleplaying, such differences could end up in some interesting situations, such as a crew going renegate and breaking off from the Crescent Pirates, etc. All Rp of course.

FYI, our crews do already have as system of taking a region of land on the island. Each crew has a "town" (whether it just consists of playerhouses, or playerhouses and NPC houses) on the island. And we're working to have some RPing fun with situations of crews having fueds with eachother. However, they're not sub-kingdoms. They make up the kingdom itself. In order for it to be a sub-kingdom, it would mean we have a base set of members besides the crews. Such is not the case. In a sense, you can say the "Crescent Pirates" are the "United Crews of the Crescent Pirate Island" *bomits at that thought* x.x

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


*bomits at that thought* x.x

*"bomits" at all Ziro's thoughts*

[MysticHaste]

RP Groups as just an easy way for someone to gain 'power' They're too lazy to earn it in a real kingdom, so they decide to make their own, this is (almost) always the reason RP groups are made, and then they aren't rp groups at all, they're just someone trying to control people because of the little respect they get in a 'real' social sittuation. (Stereotype)

Some (few) leaders are actually out to do well for the game (Chris, Wren) from what I've seen (I don't know Padren or Zoe, so I'm not going to pass judgement.) But rarely this does (and will) occurr.

But hey! Who the f... am I, I play this game too, why should you listen to me? Simple. Don't listen to me, Listen to that little voice called Logic, Just take a second to -Think- about it.

[Shaman_King]

hey tec its me Musashi ILL SUPPORT U 100 % towards this because i know ur fair and understanding and ummm a lotta other good stuff to lol :grin:

[UNPTWOPWINNER]

I'm going to say only this:
Since when do people NOT in Forest get to say what happens in Forest? I'm in Forest and I'm happy and proud to have Chris as leader. I haven't heard any complaints from other Forest(though a Forest on tag is rare right now).

Fact is, Chris has done and continues to do a lot for Forest.

Tec, you're not in Forest, so drop this idea of yours. It won't happen.

[Qwert616]

Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER
I'm going to say only this:
Since when do people NOT in Forest get to say what happens in Forest? I'm in Forest and I'm happy and proud to have Chris as leader. I haven't heard any complaints from other Forest(though a Forest on tag is rare right now).

Fact is, Chris has done and continues to do a lot for Forest.

Tec, you're not in Forest, so drop this idea of yours. It won't happen.

Yo! I am currently enlisted in the ranks of Forest, and I am not against his leadership. Although, it would be nice to see more members online...

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER

Since when do people NOT in Forest get to say what happens in Forest? I'm in Forest and I'm happy and proud to have Chris as leader. I haven't heard any complaints from other Forest(though a Forest on tag is rare right now).

Fact is, Chris has done and continues to do a lot for Forest.

Tec, you're not in Forest, so drop this idea of yours. It won't happen.

I guess this is going off topic....but maybe Forest should never recruit again. It'll make a forest membership become like a "rare item". People who can add members (only Chris?) will be offered all these rare items and hundreds of diamonds just to be put into Forest. If I were as much of a jerk as people would like or believe, I would even consider trading leadership of CP for a Forest membership in such a case :O But I guess if Chris has some kind of plans for success of the kingdom, it's kind of hard to have both- membership being as valuable as I suggested while kingdom still being successfull. It's not impossible to do both, but it's unlikely. You would need a bigger playerbase for GK probably.

[UNPTWOPWINNER]

How can you think Tec would bring members back to their tags? Guy can barely RP, let alone speak english.

I also ask this, do you know what Chris has planned for Forest? If not, you can't really say if Tec would be better...as you can't compare his work(which is none, by the way) to Chris'....but whatever.

Edit:I just read Tec's first post again, trying to find things wrong with it, and this is the one part that popped out.
"Due to lack of leadership,"
Tec...you aren't in Forest, how would you know what's lacking? Exactly, you wouldn't. Chris is barely on tag, true, but what Forest member isn't barely on tag? We're just waiting for our updates to be added. :o

*Edited to fix my mistake *

[Qwert616]

Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER


And you think Tec would bring members back to their tags? Guy can barely RP, let alone speak english.

I also ask this, do you know what Chris has planned for Forest? If not, you can't really say if Tec would be better...as you can't compare his work(which is none, by the way) to Chris'....but whatever.

No, I honestly don't. I'm well aware that it takes far more than pretty words to run a kingdom. In this case, all we have been provided with is just that.

Oh, and by the way...by "his leadership" I was referring to Chris, not Tec.

[UNPTWOPWINNER]

My mistake then.

[aylad]

Originally posted by Shaman_King
hey tec its me Musashi ILL SUPPORT U 100 % towards this because i know ur fair and understanding and ummm a lotta other good stuff to lol :grin:

Well, there's good, solid, intelligent support for tec right there.

Cough.

I happen to think Chris is one heckuva king. I hope he doesn't give up the throne for a long, long time...

[zs0]

Originally posted by --Chris--
You weren't around when I "took care of the kingdom better" -_-

I prefer it like this than at the same standard of some other kingdoms at this point of time

You aren't a good Kingdom leader.. I gave you all the names for your ranks, but I had to translate to Elven. YOu said I would get a high rank, and be royalty in the kingdom. And remember what you gave me? The lowest rank, then lied to me about it 5 minutes after we made the deal. Then you kicked me out for arguing..