Lets Destroy Levels!

[thelostviking]

There cant be a real war between the kingdoms if the castle isnt fully destroyable. Or the Walls should be killed and the kings have to make fortifications aka stronghold and the people would to need to give stones or money to help building it.

[Admins]

Levels should be limited to 30 i guess

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Stefan
Levels should be limited to 30 i guess

Well Yes, in some cases. I really dont see why there should be a limit on levels, if some people think they are fine, but if the levels are just be wasted then yes, 30 is good limit.

Check this thread Stefan....
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...5&pagenumber=1

[Amagius]

I know Tec will cry, but it sounds good. Not to punish the one's who worked hard for it. It's just that we could keep moving in equip, but there's a limit to how strong humans can be.

[deman1171]

Originally posted by Stefan
Levels should be limited to 30 i guess

Hm, or maybe a different level system, where it's not so-much level you want to increase, but skills.. so you can train in all kinds of different skills, such as you have skills like cooking, farming, mining, tailoring.. and something about really strong equipment to, or atleast make more entertaining items besides weapons & armour, because all you see on graal kingdoms is people trying to get better armour and weapons, and well with that taking away level and leaving that will just make it more boring.

[greeno]

or have it so that when you pick your class you have to stick with it, IE: get rid of skill scrolls, make a warrior use swords, make barbarians use double handed weapons, make mages use magic, but let the wand be a weapon when nothing is being cast. Theives use knives and bows, alchemists use magnifying glasses (make different kinds?) and preists use books (yes, make a book weapon) this way a barbarian can't learn to use magic or pray, and he could only be the one to use woodlore. I figure if this gets put in then you'd need to make event weapons in every form, like instead of just having a Diamond Force, youo could have the Diamond force set, which includes the Diamond Force sword, diamond force dagger diamond force bow, DFBook,DFMag,DF Rod,DFAxe. and when someone won the event they picked the weapon for their class... seems fair right?

[deman1171]

Originally posted by greeno
or have it so that when you pick your class you have to stick with it, IE: get rid of skill scrolls, make a warrior use swords, make barbarians use double handed weapons, make mages use magic, but let the wand be a weapon when nothing is being cast. Theives use knives and bows, alchemists use magnifying glasses (make different kinds?) and preists use books (yes, make a book weapon) this way a barbarian can't learn to use magic or pray, and he could only be the one to use woodlore. I figure if this gets put in then you'd need to make event weapons in every form, like instead of just having a Diamond Force, youo could have the Diamond force set, which includes the Diamond Force sword, diamond force dagger diamond force bow, DFBook,DFMag,DF Rod,DFAxe. and when someone won the event they picked the weapon for their class... seems fair right?

Oh yeah, i was going to say that too.
Almost everyone can use magic, piety, and melee and such.
Classes don't even make a difference now

[Satrek2000]

I don't think a level cap will help. Change the bonus you get per level, say, make it one hp/sp/grace per level from lv30 on, or less, only one every few levels. Sure, GK is about roleplaying, but killing monsters and such can also be fun, same with farming, baking and crafting, and personally, I like to get exp for it just to see what I have done. That, in my opinion, doesn't hurt, and would rather spoil people's fun than increase it.

[thelostviking]

I also think that gold keys should be harder to get or everyone can just use 2 potions. Or soon you can forget classes!
Same with skills and stuff.

[busyrobot]

Originally posted by Stefan
Levels should be limited to 30 i guess

I think it is a matter of balance though, like, every 10 lvls, you can add -1 ac from each type of armor:

gloves, shield, hat, boots, bracers etc, body armor to a lesser degree.

To that, add weapon + blessings, where one + is not so powerful but still lowers wc.



Then, these can be sold to other players for lots of plat, which equals large event item inventory via spending power.

And, brutals are basically buying xp, if you are weak, you may only get 100k, if you are strong enough, 200k for clearing it.


Stats can be bought via gold keys.

Now, the people who get this strong do deserve what they gain for it, they have put a lot of time in to it, and shouldn't be vilified or penalized for it. Everyone is trying to get strong, but few do, and those that do it would appear, really really work for it.

The curve though of getting stronger should look like an S formula wise,

you start of weak, slowly get stronger, then get relatively much stronger faster, then, curves out to lower rate of return, not just in xp, but in overall power gains with all factors in play.


The fact of the matter is simple:

* In any game, you have to be abe to advance.

* When you advance, you become more capable than other players.

* If you are a jerk, you'll use the advantage to make other player's game a living hell.


We can assess if the way advancement works is balanced, etc, but just because some people complain, doesn't mean they have a solution. If anything is done, I sure hope it is not a reactionary-without-thinking-too much-on-it level cap or such, it needs to be a process worked out for a month or so to fine tune exactly how balance will be made better and far more stable.

[zell12]

No need to limit levels on this server, however, on the new and final version, yes; limit the levels to 30~50. Mabey even lower.

I'll even re-subscribe to gold if some new things are added, and some old things are removed or changed. Alchemy system MUST be fixed. As should the big-arse weapons and items bent "evented". They are too strong. If you want super-strong weapons, then make alot more of them.

Anyway, i'm sure you guys all know what needs to be done, so do it already.

[Lance]

I think changing the exp required to achieve the next level would solve it in large part.

Make it 2x as much exp to get the next level throughout, instead of coming down from there over time.

[syltburk]

If you dont like GK, just leave it, there will come servers with new RP styles and you will have more oppinions to choose.

But then you have to have patience since graal development is so slow that a worm could be faster developing then graal.

[thelostviking]

new classes and reset.
perhaps lvl 50.
with brutals you can get over 30 easily (if you train good) so lvl 50.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Lance
I think changing the exp required to achieve the next level would solve it in large part.

Make it 2x as much exp to get the next level throughout, instead of coming down from there over time.

Good suggestion. I also think that high level maps such as Brutals,and Immenses should be dropped less by monsters.