Kaimetsu?

[osrs]

Originally posted by marcoR
Hehe.. an argument about technicalities of another mod in his goodbye thread

It is not his good-bye thread.

[marcoR]

It's for him.

[marcoR]

Do you remember that guy at the end of WWII who pointed the finger at everyone, and said they were communists...?

I do.

[EDIT]

to be Honest, this person sounded as tho they may be experiencing whatever it is they say, but I will weigh it in my mind, and I won't deny that Kaimetsu had personality problems. But he was still a great guy.

[/EDIT]

[Deek2]

Originally posted by marcoR
to be Honest, this person sounded as tho they may be experiencing whatever it is they say, but I will weigh it in my mind,

I don't see how this disorder can be blamed for his personality, I see no cause for it.

and I won't deny that Kaimetsu had personality problems. But he was still a great guy.

[/EDIT]

Nonetheless, he was indeed a great guy. He was misinterpreted alot, unfourtunately. Possibly because he never took in the consideration of how other people might react to his input.

[marcoR]

That's exactley why he was misinterpreted (never really put any thought to it)

[konidias]

Originally posted by Deek2
Big long post.

Narcissist? Eh? You know what a narcissist is right? It's a person that loves theirself. That thinks they are the best/greatest.

Kaimetsu didn't really show signs of being a narcissist. Being a narcissist has nothing to do with manipulating the simple-minded. He was intelligent, and he wasn't afraid to prove it. He was right about 98% of the time so I don't see how he was deluding people. He just had self-esteem and acknowledged his own abilities. Some people say I'm also a narcissist, but should you really be throwing around "disorders" on people, just because they happen to like who they are? Is it a crime to not have low self-esteem?

I really think it's ignorant and disgraceful to post something like this. Saying that he left because he has a mental disorder and that he needed help. That's ridiculous. I know why he left. He told me why he left. I also know why he didn't post why he left. Because it would make him look like every other person that leaves these forums. Like he was mad at Graal and it's management, and everything. He decided to keep his dignity, and just leave. Which I have to admire.

[Nappa]

I'm in love with myself. If I had a clone machine, I'd go to massachuessettes and marry myself.(Else, I would never have any homosexual relations. Disgusting.)

[w3dg1tz8]

Originally posted by Nappa
I'm in love with myself. If I had a clone machine, I'd go to massachuessettes and marry myself.(Else, I would never have any homosexual relations. Disgusting.)

There wasn't any need for that. ^_^

[Deek2]

Originally posted by konidias


Narcissist? Eh? You know what a narcissist is right? It's a person that loves theirself. That thinks they are the best/greatest.

And you're saying that he hasn't shown signs of this before? He has indeed, just not as much of a instance that I'm sure you're intending it to be. Anyone can think high and mighty of themselves, but that doesn't cause any concern for a disorder.

Kaimetsu didn't really show signs of being a narcissist. Being a narcissist has nothing to do with manipulating the simple-minded.

Obviously, you're mistaken. If you're a narcissist, for example, and you wanted to trick everyone that isn't as intelligent as you are into believe every opinion you have to say, then obviously you're going to manipulate them, especially if they can't believe you.

He was intelligent, and he wasn't afraid to prove it. He was right about 98% of the time so I don't see how he was deluding people.

Yes, everyone knows this. He may be smart, but that's irrelevant and you're missing the point.

He just had self-esteem and acknowledged his own abilities.

And, somehow, you can back this up? You don't know if that was his actual intentions or not.

Some people say I'm also a narcissist, but should you really be throwing around "disorders" on people, just because they happen to like who they are? Is it a crime to not have low self-esteem?

And again, you have not read the entire thread. Where this is comming from isn't not by me, as I'm merely just quoting someone else. It's his fault if he wanted his faulty convictions to be displayed to the public community. I tried warning him of the possibility of rejection, but he ran off (or blocked me, as I would assume).

I really think it's ignorant and disgraceful to post something like this. Saying that he left because he has a mental disorder and that he needed help. That's ridiculous. I know why he left. He told me why he left. I also know why he didn't post why he left.

I know it may be ignorant and disgraceful, that is why I pointed this out in the first place. The origional author feared ridicule from this, and since he wanted it to be displayed soo bad, that is what he's going to get.

Because it would make him look like every other person that leaves these forums.Like he was mad at Graal and it's management, and everything. He decided to keep his dignity, and just leave. Which I have to admire.

That wouldn't be his problem, though. It would be the fault of the people that would poorly interpret it, as well as everything else he liked to state on these forums.

[Nappa]

Originally posted by w3dg1tz8
There wasn't any need for that. ^_^

I thought I was on topic ? <3

[Darlene159]

If Kai was misunderstood, it was his own fault. I read his posts, re-read them, then read them again to see if there could be any other meaning, I never saw one....

I dont believe he was misunderstood. I think he posted exactly what he meant, there was no need to read between the lines.

As to whether or not he had a disorder, or whatever...that is none of anyone's business, and that should never have been posted.
I dont believe he does anyway, I believe he was doing what he enjoyed...debating people to death (which is not always a bad thing), but I believe that he loved debating so much that he disregarded the rules in order to participate in them (which came back and bit him in the butt).

[Deek2]

Originally posted by Darlene159
If Kai was misunderstood, it was his own fault.

No it wasn't. He posted what he thought would be true, and in the end, it was. It's not the fault of him but merely the people portraying his message. Like that article, for example.

I read his posts, re-read them, then read them again to see if there could be any other meaning, I never saw one....

See? Then it's your fault, or what seems to be your fault, because how you interpret his message portrays how you will react to it.

I dont believe he was misunderstood.

Obviously, he's been mistaken many times.

I think he posted exactly what he meant, there was no need to read between the lines.

And why is that? You're not seeing what's behind his posts.

As to whether or not he had a disorder, or whatever...that is none of anyone's business, and that should never have been posted.

It isn't. But misconceptions like this need to be adressed, as I'm sure he's widely mistaken throughout Graal.

I dont believe he does anyway, I believe he was doing what he enjoyed...debating people to death (which is not always a bad thing)

It shouldn't be a bad thing, either. That's rediculous. I think debating is natural, and it's the best possible way to explain the actuality of truths and many of it's possibilities. Without debating, much of what we know (especially Science) would be much more faultier than it already is.

but I believe that he loved debating so much that he disregarded the rules in order to participate in them (which came back and bit him in the butt).

What? There is no rules against debating. Much of the flames that arise from his opinions are the faults of others and their abilities to not think when they read his posts.

[w3dg1tz8]

Originally posted by Nappa


I thought I was on topic ? <3

</3 It would have been if you kept your homophobic remarks to yourself.

[Lance]

Short, and sweet:

Deek, what is your conjecture? Your statements so far lack a visible point.

[Nappa]

Originally posted by w3dg1tz8
</3 It would have been if you kept your homophobic remarks to yourself.

I'm sorry, I just don't want anyone to think I am ***.

[marcoR]

Deek, your second last post was along the lines of this:
"Stand up if you're a fool, a *****, or totally Mute"
Would you expect someone to stand up? (someone who wasn't trying to be a attention tart)

[MrCharles]

Bye Kaimetsu.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Deek2
Perhaps he will get help now that he doesn't have "Graal" in the way; a game in which he obviously manipulated to use in order to gain recognition and power while at the same time devaluing it, denying his interest in it, and never playing it (also huge red flags of the narcissist). He used it to gain recognition for his intelligence and his narcissist supply (from people giving into his manipulation).

Originally posted by Deek2
Those who hated him probably knew a narcissist, or were themselves one. Those who simply laughed at him probably saw through his lies and ignorance (but narcissism is one of society's hidden problems because the narcissist is powerful, and gains control and suggestive abilities to change people's minds and disbelieve any problems--often time rationalizing their own problems as if to gain respect for admitting their own faults which they know of, accept, and refuse to change). Those who deny it are victims (whether by the narcissists or whether being a narcissist their self), those who accept it are recoverers, and those who don't know obviously have no affect on it at all other than leaving theirselves "vulnerable" to it.

Originally posted by Deek2
It IS a huge part of society, because narcissists become so powerful with their contradictions, rationalizations, lies, and manipulations. Brainwash does exist; and he who denies it is brainwashed himself.

Originally posted by Deek2
Most people who waste away into online games are in denial their self, and use it to escape into another world. Narcissism affects many people and those in the online world are usually victims of it in their life. Graal is falling apart, but now that the ignorance of Kaimetsu isn't there to keep truth hidden, I ask that you please get narcissism known, and discussed very well on the forums. It is going on too much, with too many people around those parts--probably because it's easier for the narcissist to get his "narcissist" supply from children, younger people, and particularly those in a "simple game" like Graal where it picks up narcissism like flies to a bug lamp.

Originally posted by Deek2
If you think I'm crazy, ignore this e-mail. However, if you are willing to accept that there are so many people affected by it (I swear to you, read up on it! You yourself have probably been affected by a narcissist--but it's just so hidden that people allow theirselves to be controlled and brainwashed by these seemingly worthless individuals looking to gain power), then please read up on it, and get it out in the open in Graal...one of the main reasons it's so denied is because there's so many instances of it that people think of it as "normal"...however the narcissist is in a paranoid state of dillusion--often very interested in topics involving "truth" and "the meaning of life"--which Kaimetsu also, but not surprisingly, was very attracted to. It gives them a chance to manipulate more people and gain more recognition and power.

All of these basicly say, "Kaimetsu manipulated people". I can believe that, I'd even be one of the people he manipulated assuming that "convinced" and "manipulated" are meaning the same thing here. However, even if he did indeed manipulate people, that would seem to be a symbiotic relationship more than a parastic one. Kaimetsu's points were very true and useful most of the time.

Originally posted by Deek2
It IS a disorder. Please do what you can to heal the community

So Kaimetsu has somehow "damaged" the community?

Originally posted by Deek2
Kaimetsu suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Originally posted by Deek2
Many of the past administrators were involved with the disorder as well

Originally posted by Deek2
UNIXMAD also shows telltale signs of the disorder.

The fifties called. They want their "Red Scare" back.

[Deek2]

Originally posted by Lance
Short, and sweet:

Deek, what is your conjecture? Your statements so far lack a visible point.

Conjecture? There's enough evidence up there to make one's point. But I wasn't the one that wrote all of this up, so I'm irresponsible. I guess posting for others proves a point.

So Kaimetsu has somehow "damaged" the community?

I suppose it's symbolism for the fact that he's hurt other peoples feelings. He keeps IMing me all of these replies to people's posts, all of which seem pretty conjective themselves. I just wanted to post it up here to see what you people would think.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Deek2

Conjecture? There's enough evidence up there to make one's point. But I wasn't the one that wrote all of this up, so I'm irresponsible. I guess posting for others proves a point.

o_O I wanted to know the point you were attempting to make in the subsequent debating.

I suppose it's symbolism for the fact that he's hurt other peoples feelings. He keeps IMing me all of these replies to people's posts, all of which seem pretty conjective themselves.

Conjective...?

I just wanted to post it up here to see what you people would think.

I think the guy's got some grudge against Kaimetsu, and is seeking to defame him. Was your mission successful (i.e., did you found out what others think)?

[MrCharles]

kaimetsu was a solid gold dancer

[Hevaricubed]

Originally posted by Lance

Conjective...?

Dictionary.com doth quoth

No entry found for Conjective.

Congrats for deek on creating a new word.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by Googi

The fifties called. They want their "Red Scare" back.

Gahahaha, I love you. Easily one of the best posts on the forums in months.

ps: Deek, you're being kind of creepy, dude.

[Darlene159]

I thought posting something for someone else was against forum rules.....

[Lance]

Originally posted by Darlene159
I thought posting something for someone else was against forum rules.....

Indeed. We need a new supermod(s). Angel's temporary, but we do need some solidity. I believe there should be two supermods, and they should be capable of working well together. They should both be competent, understand the rules, be intelligent, have quite a bit of time to devote to the forums, and above all else, fair and just. Patience is also required.

That said, I don't see any candidates. Sorry.

Joking, though. Kamuii'd probably be a good candidate. Probably a couple of other people as well.

[James2k2]

Originally posted by Darlene159
I thought posting something for someone else was against forum rules.....

Maybe it is?

[Googi]

Originally posted by Darlene159
I thought posting something for someone else was against forum rules.....

It is. But there isn't really anyone to enforce the rule.

[MrCharles]

Originally posted by Lance


Indeed. We need a new supermod(s). Angel's temporary, but we do need some solidity. I believe there should be two supermods, and they should be capable of working well together. They should both be competent, understand the rules, be intelligent, have quite a bit of time to devote to the forums, and above all else, fair and just. Patience is also required.

That said, I don't see any candidates. Sorry.

Joking, though. Kamuii'd probably be a good candidate. Probably a couple of other people as well.

I know im number 2 on your list. eh eh? *nudge nudge* *wink wink* *wink nudge* *nudge wink* *smashnudge*

[Deek2]

Originally posted by Lance


Indeed. We need a new supermod(s). Angel's temporary, but we do need some solidity.

Then there's a possibility that she will indeed be the new supermod, by the likes of it.

Congrats for deek on creating a new word.

CONJECTURE
NOT CONJECTIVE
Besdies, you're directing that at the wrong person.
People, I said it once, I'll say it again:
Read > Post.

I thought posting something for someone else was against forum rules.....

It is, but it's not necessary if the person I'm posting for has no favor of visiting these forums in the first place.

ps: Deek, you're being kind of creepy, dude.

I'm not interested in your opinion, especially if it's worthless.

o_O I wanted to know the point you were attempting to make in the subsequent debating.

The validitiy of wether or not Kaimetsu actually had some kind of disorder or not. There really isn't a point, so that's not relevant anymore.

I think the guy's got some grudge against Kaimetsu,

He does, according to Kaimetsu himself.

Was your mission successful (i.e., did you found out what others think)?

There was no objective, I just merely wanted to put it up to see how you guys would react. I didn't find out anything surprising, I would assume you guys would reply the way I thought you would.

[Lance]

Deek - Please list who you are quoting. It makes it look like people said things they didn't.

[Deek2]

Originally posted by Lance
Deek - Please list who you are quoting. It makes it look like people said things they didn't.

Well, maybe if people -read- what they were actually saying, then that minor inconvinience wouldn't arise in the first place. If you know the text I quote from you actually belongs to you, then It's safe to assume that I'm talking to you. If it isn't, then you know what I'm implying.

[dlang]

Originally posted by Spark910
Everything that has a beginning has an end.

<wise words>

Change knows no end.

</wise words>

[Hevaricubed]

Originally posted by Deek2

CONJECTURE
NOT CONJECTIVE
Besdies, you're directing that at the wrong person.
People, I said it once, I'll say it again:
Read > Post.

You posted conjective.

How about fixing your spam before anyone gets to it and points out your spelling mistake.

I read, I posted.

No one needs you to say it again, Idiotic statements need not be repeated.

And my congratulations for your new word still stand.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Deek2

Well, maybe if people -read- what they were actually saying, then that minor inconvinience wouldn't arise in the first place. If you know the text I quote from you actually belongs to you, then It's safe to assume that I'm talking to you. If it isn't, then you know what I'm implying.

It's bad form, and makes it look like you know even less about what you're talking about.

[Deek2]

Originally posted by Hevaricubed


You posted conjective.

No I didn't. I don't see anywhere where this statement has some clarity.

How about fixing your spam before anyone gets to it and points out your spelling mistake.

How about using the read>post analogy before someone else other than me realises the flaws and mistakes in your stupidity and your posts.

I read, I posted.

You didn't read good enough, buddy! Try again.

No one needs you to say it again, Idiotic statements need not be repeated.

Hey now, let's not be hypocritical. And before you try looking that definition up:
hyp·o·crit·i·cal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hp-krt-kl)
adj.

1. Characterized by hypocrisy: hypocritical praise.
2. Being a hypocrite: a hypocritical rogue.
Hey, before trying to insult someone's stupidity, let's try making sure were not acting like imbeciles first so it doesn't backfire, ok?

And my congratulations for your new word still stand.

See what I mean? Shhhhh. It's ok. Just don't say anything else.

It's bad form, and makes it look like you know even less about what you're talking about.

It does? What a poor analogy. I could say that your poor interpretation of who I'm talking to directly makes it seem like you know less about what were actually talking about. See what I mean?

[Lance]

Originally posted by Deek2

No I didn't. I don't see anywhere where this statement has some clarity.

Okay, doofus, you posted: "I suppose it's symbolism for the fact that he's hurt other peoples feelings. He keeps IMing me all of these replies to people's posts, all of which seem pretty conjective themselves."

Note the word "conjective." Note that it doesn't exist. Note that you persist in saying a) That you never said it, and b) that someone's posts are stupid for noting that you did.

How about using the read>post analogy before someone else other than me realises the flaws and mistakes in your stupidity and your posts.

Your next statement's a good response to your previous one:

Hey now, let's not be hypocritical. And before you try looking that definition up:
hyp·o·crit·i·cal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hp-krt-kl)
adj.

1. Characterized by hypocrisy: hypocritical praise.
2. Being a hypocrite: a hypocritical rogue.
Hey, before trying to insult someone's stupidity, let's try making sure were not acting like imbeciles first so it doesn't backfire, ok?

You're posting without thinking or reading (Specifically, you're not reading your very own posts, of which you should have greater knowledge but for some reason don't) - Don't criticize others for doing so.

It does? What a poor analogy. I could say that your poor interpretation of who I'm talking to directly makes it seem like you know less about what were actually talking about. See what I mean?

Sigh. Someone doesn't know what an analogy is. Hint: It's you. My 'interpretation' of who you're directing your post at is irrelevant. The point is that your post lacks a clear display of who said what and who you're responding to. Such behavior is confusing, and muddles your own argument.

Please don't use words that you don't understand the meanings of, especially when you call someone else stupid in the same post. It just makes you look to be what you're accusing others of. Thank you.
-The Forum Community

[Zethar]

Originally posted by Lance
Okay, doofus

Well, atleast someone is taking Kai's place

[Lance]

Originally posted by Zethar

Well, atleast someone is taking Kai's place

It's a fun word.

[Deek2]

Originally posted by Lance


Okay, doofus,

Oh, wow, I think you'd definately make a good candidate for the supermod, especially if you insult the forum users.

you posted: "I suppose it's symbolism for the fact that he's hurt other peoples feelings. He keeps IMing me all of these replies to people's posts, all of which seem pretty conjective themselves."

Ok, fair enough.

Sigh. Someone doesn't know what an analogy is. Hint: It's you.

Obviously, someone doesn't even know how I'm implying it's definition itself.

Please don't use words that you don't understand the meanings of, especially when you call someone else stupid in the same post. It just makes you look to be what you're accusing others of. Thank you.
-The Forum Community

[Lance]

Originally posted by Deek2

Oh, wow, I think you'd definately make a good candidate for the supermod, especially if you insult the forum users.

*shrug* I'm not requesting such a position.

Obviously, someone doesn't even know how I'm implying it's definition itself.

[insert blood-curdling scream due to butchery of the English language here]

You continue to use words improperly. For your own sake, as well as for the relative sanity of the rest of us, please don't use words you don't know the meanings of.

A side-note, willful ignorance is BAD (And, you're guilty of it).