Last call for PWA Applications

[Lance]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
It's pointless for me to post anymore opinions of mine on here , whether you agree or disagee it really doesn't matter. Spark will say when he is ready exactly what he meant and when he does no matter which way it falls it will be over and done with.

It's cool when you get caught contradicting yourself, isn't it?

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Lance


It's cool when you get caught contradicting yourself, isn't it?

I didn't , the only contradiction is you. I said what I meant and you can think whatever you like.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I didn't ,

Um, I pretty much proved that you did.

the only contradiction is you.

Oh, no, I'm a contradiction! Someone, please, help me!

I said what I meant and you can think whatever you like.

Right...and then you said something completely contradictory, and somehow they're both your opinion (as you so frequently point out in bolded text).

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Lance


Um, I pretty much proved that you did.

You have proved nothing other than you cannot provoke me into arguing with you. You can take things out of context all you like but that doesn't prove a thing.

[ShadowStrike2k1]

Originally posted by Lance

Oh, no, I'm a contradiction! Someone, please, help me!

It cannot be, moon god has turned you into a misplaced article of speech. This seems like a job for captain obvious *waits for afrosox to bump in and realizes capt. obvious died two years ago today*


You're lucky he's not here, but if he were, he'd say S.T.F.U.

Originally posted by Milkdude99
You have proved nothing other than you cannot provoke me into arguing with you. You can take things out of context all you like but that doesn't prove a thing.

Ah yes, but you argue even now, Idiot.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by ShadowStrike2k1


It cannot be, moon god has turned you into a misplaced article of speech. This seems like a <A TITLE="Click for more information about job" STYLE="background-color: #f0f000; " HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||job|AA1VDw">job</A> for captain obvious *waits for afrosox to bump in and realizes capt. obvious died two years ago today*


You're lucky he's not here, but if he were, he'd say S.T.F.U.



Ah yes, but you argue even now, Idiot.

You sir are flaming, I said nothing in a way of a flame to you or anyone else so refrain from flaming.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
You have proved nothing other than you cannot provoke me into arguing with you.

I'm not trying to provoke an argument; I am merely pointing out the obvious contradiction and your failure to admit it.

You can take things out of context all you like but that doesn't prove a thing.

Um, the context here is irrelavant to the point I proved. If I am incorrect in saying this, could you please explain how the context would be relevant?

[Lance]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
You sir are flaming, I said nothing in a way of a flame to you or anyone else so refrain from flaming.

He was merely pointing out further hypocrisy of yours. *shrug*

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Lance


He was merely pointing out further hypocrisy of yours. *shrug*

Since when is name calling pointing out anything other than name calling? Did he not say **** and call me an idiot? This is a flame and you can color it in any other fashion. There is no hypocrisy because I did not say what you said I said in this quote.

Then why did you say that he would be unable to do a good job? If you judge a category, you are applying your judgement to each member of that category, man. You're contradicting yourself. Either you judge that all pwa members, and thus Chris (in this hypothetical situation) would need to spend 100% of their time on graal doing PWA work and if they don't do that then they're not doing a good job, OR you aren't making that judgement. Make up your mind.

I never said he could not do a good job , you said that not me , I challenge you to find any post on this Forum where I said "Chirs cannot do a good job". To give 100% of yourself to one job does not mean you can give 100% to more that one , that isn't even good math. 100% is exactly that not 50/50 not 75/25 it is 100%. If you divide your time then you are not giving 100% to either job that is my only point not whether you are doing a good job or not . You may do a good job at both but you cannot give your best to both because you have to split yourself so therefore it is NOT 100% to either. You are the only one that tried to say I said anyone who doesn't give 100% does a bad job, that is not what I said so therefore there is no contradiction.

[Darlene159]

wow, Lance...why are you trying to pick a fight?

ShadowStrike:

[Lance]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Since when is name calling pointing out anything other than name calling? Did he not say **** and call me an idiot? This is a flame and you can color it in any other fashion.

Yeah, he was outta line for the name-calling, but he did have a point hidden under that (see below).

There is no hypocrisy because I did not say what you said I said in this quote.

He was referring to perceived hypocrisy of you telling me I shouldn't try to argue about this, and then you going ahead and arguing yourself. *shrug*

I never said he could not do a good job , you said that not me , I challenge you to find any post on this Forum where I said "Chirs cannot do a good job".

Read the second part of what you quoted, dude.

Originally posted by me
If you judge a category, you are applying your judgement to each member of that category, man. You're contradicting yourself. Either you judge that all pwa members, and thus Chris (in this hypothetical situation) would need to spend 100% of their time on graal doing PWA work and if they don't do that then they're not doing a good job, OR you aren't making that judgement. Make up your mind.

You clearly apply that judgement to Chris. I don't care that you try to write it off as an opinion - it's obvious that these are opinions, and those of us who are posting are elaborating on why your opinions are incorrect, and in some cases contradictory. The main point (where you are contradicting yourself) is enumerated in the quote of what I said, so I shant restate it.

To give 100% of yourself to one job does not mean you can give 100% to more that one , that isn't even good math. 100% is exactly that not 50/50 not 75/25 it is 100%. If you divide your time then you are not giving 100% to either job that is my only point not whether you are doing a good job or not .

Except that you said that for someone to be a good PWA member, they have to spend 100% of their time on graal doing PWA work. Therefore, if they are not spending 100% of their time on graal doing PWA work, they are not a good PWA member. Here's the first contradiction - you're not contradicting yourself, but instead you are contradicting logic. I'll point this one out anyway since you seem to have trouble locating them.

And, as Kaimetsu and I have both stated, why can't you (by the same argument) extend this to how you divide your time between real life and graal? I mean, it is a divison of your time. However, you disagree. That's your second contradictory-to-logic statement.

You may do a good job at both but you cannot give your best to both because you have to split yourself so therefore it is NOT 100% to either. You are the only one that tried to say I said anyone who doesn't give 100% does a bad job, that is not what I said so therefore there is no contradiction.

Um, who said you can't give your best to both? I'm still trying to figure that one out. If you've got a job that doesn't require you to be working 100% of your time, it's foolish to think that you must devote 100% of your time to a job in order to do it well. Perhaps if you qualified your statement with a suffix such as "To be available during 100% of your time", it'd have some validity; else, it's completely invalid and illogical.

Aside from that, as I believe Kaimetsu and I have also both stated as well, how good a job you do as a PWA member is unrelated to the % of your time you dedicate to doing PWA duties, it's the amount of time period you dedicate to PWA. What's better (assuming these people are equivalent, other than what I mention): Someone who's got 10 available hours per day to be on graal, and dedicates 8 of them to PWA, or someone who's got 5 hours per day to be on graal, and dedicates all of them to PWA? Surely you won't say the latter, as the former can be contacted during a larger window, and thus can deal with situations more expediently?

Originally posted by Darlene159
wow, Lance...why are you trying to pick a fight?

I'm not. I merely want him to realize the error in his statements. Considering past history, this probably won't happen - however, it can't hurt to try.