A New Governor

[Amoun]

Originally posted by Valder


He defianatly said that he is not coming back and I don't blame him. I are starting to despise GK and everything about it. In 6 days when 2k1 is re-released I will be moving back there. That server was the best IMO and 2k2 ruined everything about 2k1.

Partially speaking on graphics i would too Your guy looks very .hack'y on 2k1

[Valder]

Originally posted by Amoun

Partially speaking on graphics i would too Your guy looks very .hack'y on 2k1

Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it was intended that way

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by tc_topcat

I wasn't meaning male being GP i was meaning you

That was quite obvious when you stated it. I understood this. I was simply telling you that you have worse problems than not being male.

Originally posted by tc_topcat

I know fine well GP was the leader long time ago(you assume you dont ask)

I wasn't assuming. I cleary said it seems as if you did not know GP was a long time leader (No, not "leader long time ago". There's a difference.) because of the fact that Zurkiba even commented, telling you that of GP's history with Pirate Crew and Crescent Pirates.

Originally posted by Amoun

Of course anyone who is in the line of ascending power would undoubtfully agree with his decisions.

I am not even sure if Ghost Pirate has decided to choose me to be the next Governor. It sounds as if he has only been considering it to some minor degree.

Originally posted by Amoun

That isn't just Ghost Pirates little lackey-right-hand-man who is going to be chosen due to the fact he is an aquaintance or friend with him?

Not that whatever personal relationship I may or may not have with Ghost Pirate matters, but I doubt that's the reason he has chosen me.

[GoldSri]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


That was quite obvious when you stated it. I understood this. I was simply telling you that you have worse problems than not being male.

I dont think you would be a good leader because you criticze me for no reason, and it is not even constructive criticism

the way you replied to my comment earlier on made it seem as you did not understand what i meant

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


I wasn't assuming. I cleary said it seems as if you did not know GP was a long time leader (No, not "leader long time ago". There's a difference.) because of the fact that Zurkiba even commented, telling you that of GP's history with Pirate Crew and Crescent Pirates.

I didnt need Zurkiba telling me i already knew, he was a leader long time ago because from what i remember it was a long time back "i clearly said it seems" if something seems to be something but you dont know for sure you are ASSUMING!!!!!

[TifaKhan]

My 2cents worth:
I would gladly get GP back if he agrees, i'm willing to help him.
I am against ziro being Governor, i just checked, he joined august 5th??
I mean, wth?
Myself,Robin and Misty worked tirelessly to try build up CP,it may have not looked like much on the outside, but we were busy building up supplies and such, and enrolling new members, teaching RP etc.
All that aside i was never offered Governor, if i was at the time,i would have taken it, but GP came back,so it didnt happen.
Now i admit i have lost interest in GK, its boring, same old,bash em up stuff.
But i have come on, talked to Misty, and she's doing a wonderful job, so if i have any say, which i doubt, but i would vote her, and support her because it wouldnt be easy.
I plan on leaving Graal soon, it bores me, it's owners ignore me, and i am tired of being treating like crap.
People come on my server, give me ****, and when i respond by firing them if their staff i get called abusive names until i am forced to take action.
My server loses players, and they go to other servers that dont give a damn ( i went on one today, there 5 minutes and i get pm'd called a ho, fun fun , gotta love these servers)
Anyway, yes, please GP if you change your mind, i can help.
If not for goodness sake somebody have the wisdom to choose someone or appoint someone like Misty who clearly show they care, have stuck around, and not just someone whose been in the kingdom 3 days i mean geez didnt happen for me, is it sexist or something?

[syltburk]

no need to be rude valder, i must have missed it,



btw otherwise yes i would like tifa as the governor,

you now she was basicly the one that i saw working activly why everybody thought it was dead


iave been trying to get into CP again but nobody hires, misty told me that atleast


but tifa is the kind of person that you can trust on

my vote go for tifa

[Borgie]

I dont think it matters if the new governor is male or female...
I only think the person who deserves it most should become Governor... like Misty or Tifa

[Tseng]

Originally posted by GoldSri
I didnt need Zurkiba telling me i already knew, he was a leader long time ago because from what i remember it was a long time back "i clearly said it seems" if something seems to be something but you dont know for sure you are ASSUMING!!!!!

You are still making the mistake Ziro has already stated. He said "long-time leader" not "leader long time ago." There is a vast difference in the meanings of those two words.

Originally posted by TifaKhan
I plan on leaving Graal soon, it bores me, it's owners ignore me, and i am tired of being treating like crap.

I'm sorry to hear that - as you already know, I have a great respect for you as a manager and as a person. I witnessed firsthand how much you care for that server when I worked there as a member of your GP team for a short time. While you may not think its owners care, they do - they just are so very busy. They really need to find/hire someone else to help out.

People come on my server, give me ****, and when i respond by firing them if their staff i get called abusive names until i am forced to take action.

Simple answer: ban them. If they only come there to harrass you, ban them. If they are staff, and were fired, and call you abusive names, ban them. You're too kind to people sometimes.

My server loses players, and they go to other servers that dont give a damn ( i went on one today, there 5 minutes and i get pm'd called a ho, fun fun , gotta love these servers)

Servers that allow this need to be dealt with. When things like this happen, complain to Lyndzey, Spark, Angel, or myself (would have included Houdiniman but for some reason he dislikes you), and we can see about getting something done.

Don't leave because of the bad...Things'll be worse for the rest of us...

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by TifaKhan

I am against ziro being Governor, i just checked, he joined august 5th??

I was also in Pirate Crew a long time ago on "somewhat old" G2k1 (before too much inflation,new bodies,hp system,and those DBZ hats). While it may not mean much to you, GP liked that about me.

Originally posted by GoldSri

if something seems to be something but you dont know for sure you are ASSUMING!!!!!

Not true. I am not assuming something by saying something seems to be as such. I am actually avoiding making an assumption.

Originally posted by GoldSri

I dont think you would be a good leader because you criticze me for no reason, and it is not even constructive criticism

An example of my criticism would have been helpfull to respond to this. If you're referring to the situation with that First Mate, I brought up the problem because I was hoping to bring it to the attention of the members online at the time. This way, perhaps something could be done about it.

Originally posted by GoldSri

the way you replied to my comment earlier on made it seem as you did not understand what i meant

Well, I do find it to be quite hard to understand you at times. An example is this poll. You say "a person who has not been active for a while" in one of the options, yet you don't make it clear as to what this person has not been active in (GK? CP?). And the first option is a question. The poll itself should be a question. You greatly lack organization.

[GoldSri]

Originally posted by TifaKhan
My 2cents worth:
I would gladly get GP back if he agrees, i'm willing to help him.
I am against ziro being Governor, i just checked, he joined august 5th??
I mean, wth?
Myself,Robin and Misty worked tirelessly to try build up CP,it may have not looked like much on the outside, but we were busy building up supplies and such, and enrolling new members, teaching RP etc.
All that aside i was never offered Governor, if i was at the time,i would have taken it, but GP came back,so it didnt happen.
Now i admit i have lost interest in GK, its boring, same old,bash em up stuff.
But i have come on, talked to Misty, and she's doing a wonderful job, so if i have any say, which i doubt, but i would vote her, and support her because it wouldnt be easy.
I plan on leaving Graal soon, it bores me, it's owners ignore me, and i am tired of being treating like crap.
People come on my server, give me ****, and when i respond by firing them if their staff i get called abusive names until i am forced to take action.
My server loses players, and they go to other servers that dont give a damn ( i went on one today, there 5 minutes and i get pm'd called a ho, fun fun , gotta love these servers)
Anyway, yes, please GP if you change your mind, i can help.
If not for goodness sake somebody have the wisdom to choose someone or appoint someone like Misty who clearly show they care, have stuck around, and not just someone whose been in the kingdom 3 days i mean geez didnt happen for me, is it sexist or something?

Thanks for the support tifa I will be sorry to see you go if/when you do

[GoldSri]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


An example of my criticism would have been helpfull to respond to this. If you're referring to the situation with that First Mate, I brought up the problem because I was hoping to bring it to the attention of the members online at the time. This way, perhaps something could be done about it.

I already knew, what i meant was you could have been more constructive in saying..if she done this it would help, i can help etc
but you just said she was rubbish at RP and should have never been chosen...everybody needs a chance because people dont wake up one day and know RP

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

Well, I do find it to be quite hard to understand you at times. An example is this poll. You say "a person who has not been active for a while" in one of the options, yet you don't make it clear as to what this person has not been active in (GK? CP?). And the first option is a question. The poll itself should be a question. You greatly lack organization.

The poll has that name because it gets peoples attention, the not been active question..well its kinda obv if its in the G2K under pirates thats what it is relative too

if you dont understand the poll you must seriously lack good reading skills and common sense

[TifaKhan]

Originally posted by Tseng

I'm sorry to hear that - as you already know, I have a great respect for you as a manager and as a person. I witnessed firsthand how much you care for that server when I worked there as a member of your GP team for a short time. While you may not think its owners care, they do - they just are so very busy. They really need to find/hire someone else to help out.



Simple answer: ban them. If they only come there to harrass you, ban them. If they are staff, and were fired, and call you abusive names, ban them. You're too kind to people sometimes.



Servers that allow this need to be dealt with. When things like this happen, complain to Lyndzey, Spark, Angel, or myself (would have included Houdiniman but for some reason he dislikes you), and we can see about getting something done.

Don't leave because of the bad...Things'll be worse for the rest of us...

Thank you Tseng, i also respect you a lot, i can only imagine from being a Manager what it must be like for you.
I did ban that particular person yesterday, and when he came back on another account abusing me again, i was forced to ipban him.

I still believe Misty should be given a chance because like me, she has stuck with CP through everything, even through the bad times, she stood beside me.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by GoldSri

I already knew, what i meant was you could have been more constructive in saying..if she done this it would help, i can help etc
but you just said she was rubbish at RP and should have never been chosen

It would be more appropriate for me to give advice if the problem wasn't as bad as it was. The problem I saw was her having a high rank when she obviously shouldn't have (because of the whole RPing problems I stated earlier). I told people that there's a problem. You obviously knew she had much to learn. I surely hope you wouldn't prefer if I told you how to do your job by telling you to see to it that she has a lower rank since she still has a lot to learn.

Originally posted by GoldSri

everybody needs a chance because people dont wake up one day and know RP

I don't have too much of a problem with you being so nice as to give people chances (teaching people can be a good "investment" for the group as a whole), but there is a ranking system. Again, it should be used for situations such as this, by giving the person an appropriate rank. First Mate was/is not one.

[TifaKhan]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


It would be more appropriate for me to give advice if the problem wasn't as bad as it was. The problem I saw was her having a high rank when she obviously shouldn't have (because of the whole RPing problems I stated earlier). I told people that there's a problem. You obviously knew she had much to learn. I surely hope you wouldn't prefer if I told you how to do your job by telling you to see to it that she has a lower rank since she still has a lot to learn.



I don't have too much of a problem with you being so nice as to give people chances (teaching people can be a good "investment" for the group as a whole), but there is a ranking system. Again, it should be used for situations such as this, by giving the person an appropriate rank. First Mate was/is not one.

I think Misty understands this now. I too have made mistakes in my time on Graal, we are only human, the main thing is, that we learn from them.

I still think with help she would be a wonderful Governor for CP.
If i were more interested i would ask to take over.
But being Manager of a server is stressful enough for me.

As it is, if she should be made Governor i would help her as much as i possibly could.

I'm not saying this because she is a girl, even though i do believe girls are not given a fair chance on Graal, i have had to fight for everything i have.But my own experience shows that we can do it, not everything has to be male dominated.

As i also said before, Misty has stood beside me through good times and bad, under threat of being removed from CP even.
(yes at one stage we were mutining(sp?) because we disagreed with something.But we werent alone on that, and we went on.
We have worked hard to try make it great.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Discussion of our current situation doesn't seem to be as active as it should be. We need something to be done.

As Tseng said, Ghost Pirate has been talking about how he doesn't like the current member list of the Crescent Pirates. I think I'd do be good for the job of Governor. If I'm chosen, I'll even have a friend (and an old friend of GP's) by my side who's just as obesessed with RPing as I am. He's the one who brought me to Pirate Crew, and just came back to GK after a leave just about as long as GP's. You see, people may want CP to have a self-voted governor, but if the governor himself believed that the member list needed much improvement, it is pointless to let people choose the governor democratically unless of course you would like more problems.