Graal Death as we know it?

[nyghtGT]

Originally posted by ZanderX


I usually do that when I get off RC for the night.

"Good night, and thanks for playing Graal 2001!"

But do you mean it?

[brock128]

Graal IS going downhill.
Graal2002 is doing nothing, other then releasing items, when the people want quests (So we can get KINGDOM ISLES).
The Playerworlds are all bad... Until Oasis/Graal3020 (That the right number?) etc.

[warp2ukew]

I agree with Brock128. The classic servers have much more players and 2k1 and 2k2, even when they are at peak times!

[VampiricTutorNewHD]

In order to jump-start 2k1, you have to fire all the existing staff on it. Then you have to delete the NPC test levels, and reset all the accounts. Then you have to take down the playerworlds that get hardly any people(not for the benefit of 2k1, just to get rid of them). Since most people are powerhungry, they will come to 2k1 looking for a staff job. When they play around and see how good it is, they will probably stay. Then lay out strict guidelines for the staff. Fire anyone who doesn't do their job right...

I think that would help 2k1 out. It's what I would do if I were manager, even though I might keep existing staff if they proved to be good and did their job instead of playing.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
In order to jump-start 2k1, you have to fire all the existing staff on it. Then you have to delete the NPC test levels, and reset all the accounts. Then you have to take down the playerworlds that get hardly any people(not for the benefit of 2k1, just to get rid of them). Since most people are powerhungry, they will come to 2k1 looking for a staff job. When they play around and see how good it is, they will probably stay. Then lay out strict guidelines for the staff. Fire anyone who doesn't do their job right...

I think that would help 2k1 out. It's what I would do if I were manager, even though I might keep existing staff if they proved to be good and did their job instead of playing.

Take it up with Stefan if you think we should do that. It'd hurt business.

[VampiricTutorNewHD]

It would hurt business how? You would lose a few staff that do nothing but laze about, and you would get your playercount upped about 40. I'm not going to suggest anything to Stefan. It is his game, he can do with it as he pleases. I for one think that losing a few staff is less important than reviving a dead server. It does cost money to run servers, and right now one of Graal's best servers(from the hour or two I spent on it) is just wasting it.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Yeah, Graal is in it pretty deep.

Graal2001 needs to be moved onto the Classic part of the serverlist. By having only 2002 and 2001 in the graal gold server list, they'll be in direct competition with each other for players. Who do you think is going to win in a battle between 2002 and 2001?
Obviously 2002 is going to win, and 2001's potential is wasted.

Some of these excess playerworlds need to be rid of, now. I know you'll make some excuses and complain about the ones I have on the list but hey, if they have all this potential, and they are just that good, why is it not being used? Obviously, Stefan doesn't need playerworlds up that get close to 0 people.
Some of these are:
SL
Faheria
Frolic
Mithica
Doomsday

Maybe:
Providence
Andor

It's a big list, but there are a lot of wasted servers here.

[VampiricTutorNewHD]

Providence is going under some real good stuff. They have excellent LATs on there. We(Andor) are just about finished of the new world. Mithica isn't bad, they just don't get enough people to sustain it.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
It would hurt business how? You would lose a few staff that do nothing but laze about, and you would get your playercount upped about 40. I'm not going to suggest anything to Stefan. It is his game, he can do with it as he pleases. I for one think that losing a few staff is less important than reviving a dead server. It does cost money to run servers, and right now one of Graal's best servers(from the hour or two I spent on it) is just wasting it.

I'm quoting this post but this is more in regards to your earlier one.

1) You can't just reset all the accounts; hundreds of accounts have played 2k1, by resetting them all you'd be making a lot of people unhappy should someone return and find their stuff missing.

2) There are very few NPC Test levels anymore, sorry. I think that there are three, tops. Maybe four. Two were made by STEFAN.

3) Why fire all the existing staff? That does nothing for the server, simply ruins its potential.

4) Yup, shut down playerworlds for no reason whatsoever. Great idea, Einstein.

5) You'd fire staff if they played the game? What the hell?

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
Providence is going under some real good stuff. They have excellent LATs on there. We(Andor) are just about finished of the new world. Mithica isn't bad, they just don't get enough people to sustain it.

That's all well and good, but it'll be tough to revive playerworlds in this new Graal. You'd have to best the 4-5 top servers AND make it good enough that people will become regular players of that server over the server they came from, since the amount of newbies playing have dropped. In other words, once your in the hole, it's hell to get out.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally posted by ZanderX


I'm quoting this post but this is more in regards to your earlier one.

1) You can't just reset all the accounts; hundreds of accounts have played 2k1, by resetting them all you'd be making a lot of people unhappy should someone return and find their stuff missing.

Yeah, you just can't reset everyone, that pissed off a lot of people when it happened on Classic. Though something DRASTIC needs to be done to pull 2001 out of this hole.

2) There are very few NPC Test levels anymore, sorry. I think that there are three, tops. Maybe four. Two were made by STEFAN.

Wouldn't know about this. Things need to be tested before they get put up, all is well as long as it's not abused.

3) Why fire all the existing staff? That does nothing for the server, simply ruins its potential.

Yeah, it'll just hurt things in the long run. You need to find out who is screwing up and who isn't putting in their part, and get rid of them.

4) Yup, shut down playerworlds for no reason whatsoever. Great idea, Einstein.

This is where I have to disagree with you. You must look at this at a wider view. There are about 6-7 PWs that don't make it past the 5 player mark. Why should we have PWs that no one uses? Answer is that we shouldn't, they are just taking up space. Why should Stefan keep a server up that no one plays?

5) You'd fire staff if they played the game? What the hell?

Didn't quite see him say that. I thought he was talking about strict guildlines or something. Oh well, rules are needed to keep the staffers in line, the harder the rules, the better.

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by DarkCloud_PK


This is where I have to disagree with you. You must look at this at a wider view. There are about 6-7 PWs that don't make it past the 5 player mark. Why should we have PWs that no one uses? Answer is that we shouldn't, they are just taking up space. Why should Stefan keep a server up that no one plays?



Didn't quite see him say that. I thought he was talking about strict guildlines or something. Oh well, rules are needed to keep the staffers in line, the harder the rules, the better.

1) Because there ARE people who play those servers, scarily enough, just not in any large quantity.

2) I quote, from him:

It's what I would do if I were manager, even though I might keep existing staff if they proved to be good and did their job instead of playing.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally posted by ZanderX


1) Because there ARE people who play those servers, scarily enough, just not in any large quantity.

2) I quote, from him:

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1.Actually, as I look at it, there are rarely people playing on those servers. If the player count is above 0, 50% of the time, it's just the staffers there. Why should Stefan keep something up and waste space on something that doesn't get any players or 5 player max on it? Obviously if there aren't any people playing it, or literally a couple people playing it, there is something wrong.

2. He might have meant playing around, but hey, I'm not a mind-reader.

[ghostsamurai]

fun ways to revamp 2k1:

fix the bomy system: make wild bomies that can be taken as pets, they would be given to you for their 'rite of passage' or something of the sort. there should also be bomy breeding, but that would be hard for the current staff to make . Bomy fighting should be released as well, so people have a reason to run around with the bomy.

more emphasis on the kingdom story: graal2001 has a great kingdom storyline, but there isn't much emphasis on it with the current levels. there should be the hananoki village ruins, a treetop villiage that was destroyed when Dustari burned the original Santerrian. The forests should be filled with karakaze bandit npcs ready to steal your money, and the bars should be filled with pirates ready to pick a fight.

[SinNetherwind]

at first my guess was they were gonna do p2p, get people money and then decide its losing buisness and make it free again. heck thats what i'd i done