Very important announcement

[LilNiglet]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT

* A voice system that will allow peoples to communicate by voice" too!

!

I DIDNT SEE THAT.

SWEET.

[Kaimetsu]

I'm not sure about "Graal: The Bomy Moon". It doesn't really convey what the server is about - the whole theme park thing that Unixmad mentioned.

[Bomy2Dope]

wheee....great!
i love it

[GryffonDurime]

I think the new ideas are awsome, especially a set date for G2001 Preveiw. And if it gets pushed back, there will be a revolt to the sixteenth power. As for the names, I think Graal Classic should be entitled PK Festia, Graal2001 should become Multiplica, and Graal 2002 becomes The Isles Six

[Bird2prey]

Excellent news! Authough I can only fear the worst for LOG... >.<

[Kamaeru]

one thing!
i mean if i wait for that 15$ deal, and what happens like, when can i do the 15$ thingy? i really don't want to loose all that time i put into graal classic with getting those items and such, i mean you can get to do the 15$ before the update, rite?

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Kamaeru
one thing!
i mean if i wait for that 15$ deal, and what happens like, when can i do the 15$ thingy? i really don't want to loose all that time i put into graal classic with getting those items and such, i mean you can get to do the 15$ before the update, rite?

I believe as unixmad had stated that if you've already upgraded your current graal account, then you will recieve the lifetime membership status once this all goes into effect

[Neglegence2002]

lol, ill be around on graal or the fourms for about 1 year and 256 days, and maybe more now,

[Shorty2Dope]

This is awsome.. I am starting to get wet in teh pants!

[AlkarenHyralt]

Graal: Kingdoms of Endless Time

(for 2002)


I like the ideas unixmad

[Neonight]

Nice job, Unixmad! For once, I agree wholeheartedly. (npcserver)? We cannot handle all of our scripts without them... Providence's main CNPC is mostly pay-to-play... Will this mean NPC (Server) is eliminated or do all servers have it?
Great job. Now the p2p servers that are good, but don't get many players can now get more player outlooks to improve.


Note to everyone:

Unixmad is saying that if you can post on these forums right now, then you don't have to pay the $15.

[Skatche]

Schweet! I'm glad to see my suggestion for underground catacombs is being used, and I love all the other coming improvements. This is very groovy. As a sidenote, I also think the population of Graal is finally, perhaps, maturing from people wandering around calling people "FGAGETTSV!!!!!!@#$!1234" and then PKing them (pausing when they get low on health) to people who take the game seriously, have some semblance of intelligence, and in some cases, roleplay.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Neonight
Will this mean NPC (Server) is eliminated or do all servers have it?

I never thought about this. Obviously it won't be eliminated, but they'll probably need to give one to every server. Hmm...

[DarkDragon452]

Great job! I'm so glad all those newbies that annoy the hell out of me whenever I log onto my staff account on classic will be GONE! woohoo! Though I will miss finding hordes of em holding weddings for SSJ4938743 and then PKing the whole lot of em.

But yea it's all in all a great thing. Especially if classic gets the NPC server and other p2p scripts.

About houses.

Tyhm what willl the exact 'requirements' be to get a house? Will it be similar to the old way? Submit it and it goes up? Just on a separate personal server of sorts?

Wow so much new stuff... guess we'll be seeing version 2.2 soon eh?

[Loriel]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I never thought about this. Obviously it won't be eliminated, but they'll probably need to give one to every server. Hmm...

Lots of PWs will have to be rescripted then x.x
I think they will have people pay the monthly thing for PWs with NPC servers

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Loriel

Lots of PWs will have to be rescripted then x.x
I think they will have people pay the monthly thing for PWs with NPC servers

That'd seem more realistic, yeah.

[Psyker]

*victory dance*

[AlexH]

Graal going completly p2p ($15 lifetime isnt that much so dont complain) meansno more annoying newbies.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally posted by unixmad
big long promotional

Does this mean Classic will get the ability to use lighting effects, the script feautures, and a NPC server?

I'd sure like to see what it would be like to have those things on Classic.

[acidfear]

WOW. i was waiting for them to do this the first day p2p became available. im at school and speechless so im not ganna type much. <3 @ unix

[Spanko]

Originally posted by DarkCloud_PK


Does this mean Classic will get the ability to use lighting effects, the script feautures, and a NPC server?

I'd sure like to see what it would be like to have those things on Classic.

i do know if that happens Classic would have to be nearly conpletely rescripted. While making all NPCs clientside would seem a solution it wouldn't work completely (Since setlevel and some other commands cannot be performed clientside on an NPC Server).
Though the other stuff would be easily possible, since most of those scripting featres can be run clientside.

[Shorty2Dope]

Originally posted by AlexH
Graal going completly p2p ($15 lifetime isnt that much so dont complain) meansno more annoying newbies.

The annoying newbies is what makes the future of graal. It is up to you to train them and teach them the intelligent way.

[AlexH]

Originally posted by Shorty2Dope


The annoying newbies is what makes the future of graal. It is up to you to train them and teach them the intelligent way.

True but there annoying.
Well at least some of the are.
There are a select few that arnt annoying from day 1 and there are those who learn complaining about everything will just get them hated, so they stop.

[Bomy2Dope]

Originally posted by Shorty2Dope
This is awsome.. I am starting to get wet in teh pants!

you too?

[jeff335]

If Classic gets Tyhmia-NPCs (Server) like I always joke about...well, that means going through EVERY LEVEL and clientsiding the scripts. But it could be done.

[habek]

i think i'm the only guy who still dont understand a few obvious things
1. So subscription for Graal is only $15 for a lifetime?
2. In that $15 can we play on 2001/2002 or just classic?
3. If the answer to question 2 is no, then how much do we have to pay to play on them?
4. Can you still use the old method to register? (paypal)
please clear up these things

[Shadow Knight]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I never thought about this. Obviously it won't be eliminated, but they'll probably need to give one to every server. Hmm...

mzybe uoi could give the servers that want a npc server a npc server, and those who dont want one, none, i think some dont wanna rescripted every scripted on the server for it

[Zelgadis_Geywords]

Originally posted by habek
i think i'm the only guy who still dont understand a few obvious things
1. So subscription for Graal is only $15 for a lifetime?
2. In that $15 can we play on 2001/2002 or just classic?
3. If the answer to question 2 is no, then how much do we have to pay to play on them?
4. Can you still use the old method to register? (paypal)
please clear up these things

This is what I understand:

1. Yes. For Graal Classic and Playerworlds.
2. No. That will still be under monthly subscription.
3. That price is probably still the same.
4. I'm pretty sure they're going all telephone. (Though I hope the PayPal method is still of access.)

[konidias]

Wouldn't it just be smarter to get a p2p upgrade then? I mean, that's like, 15 dollars or something? Plus you're getting access to all p2p servers for that period of time, AND a lifetime account for all non-p2p. So it wouldn't make any sense to pay 15 only for non-p2p would it?

[draygin]

Originally posted by konidias
Wouldn't it just be smarter to get a p2p upgrade then? I mean, that's like, 15 dollars or something? Plus you're getting access to all p2p servers for that period of time, AND a lifetime account for all non-p2p. So it wouldn't make any sense to pay 15 only for non-p2p would it?

not really I mean think about it they'll think hey why pay 15 when for a few dollars more they can get p2p that means more money for them plus alot of those people might decide they like p2p and continue to reupgrade for p2p meaning more money for them but they should make it so that the minimum order has to come to 15 dollars to become permanent all normal servers other wise they could get like a 3 month sub and not have to pay 15 dollars.

On another note I love all these ideas but with the voice system it should make it work only if two people or more agree then only they can hear it because last thing I want is to hear alot of people cussing at each other when I'm trying to play or to walk in on two people cybering *shudders*

[Slaktmaster]

Originally posted by konidias
Wouldn't it just be smarter to get a p2p upgrade then? I mean, that's like, 15 dollars or something? Plus you're getting access to all p2p servers for that period of time, AND a lifetime account for all non-p2p. So it wouldn't make any sense to pay 15 only for non-p2p would it?

I believe those 15 dollars are a 3-month subscription.

[Spark910]

Originally posted by unixmad
This message is put there for your comments before releasing to all graal players.
..........

Well i say its great but...... NO is my final Answer people listen ok we dont care about Paying for it but others will players on graal will drop about 70-80% And so there will be 100-120people who will pay only so its bad news, Ok its good so peope dont got 40+ Accounts but honestly NO one will pay for $15 for free servers maybe:

$8 and get lifetime free servers and 1month of P2p! Also i have about 30-40+ Friends on graal and i can tell you right now NO one will Pay! And also people who make P/w's will only have 1-2people on it as no1 can be bothered to Pay!

Unixmad your dowing ok just do as you are also 2002 is a bit annoying now we gotta wait 6months but ok i supposes!
BUT DONT DO IT

[freddyfox]

Originally posted by Spark910


Well i say its great but...... NO is my final Answer people listen ok we dont care about Paying for it but others will players on graal will drop about 70-80% And so there will be 100-120people who will pay only so its bad news, Ok its good so peope dont got 40+ Accounts but honestly NO one will pay for $15 for free servers maybe:

$8 and get lifetime free servers and 1month of P2p! Also i have about 30-40+ Friends on graal and i can tell you right now NO one will Pay! And also people who make P/w's will only have 1-2people on it as no1 can be bothered to Pay!

Unixmad your dowing ok just do as you are also 2002 is a bit annoying now we gotta wait 6months but ok i supposes!
BUT DONT DO IT

That's nice. What else are they going to do? There's about 0 games that have such a CHEAP rate of play. Come on. $15 DOLLARS. 7 big macs. 15 bags of chips. A CD. If you can afford these things yearly YOU CAN AFFORD $15 DOLLARS.

And I'm sure they'll say that they'll leave if they have to pay 15 dollars, but wait until the time rolls around. They will pay. Trust me.

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Loriel
[B]
Spiffy plans
If I didn't have a perma upgraded account, I'd go and upgrade mine now!

didnt stefan say he was removing external accs?

anyways..

does this mean all free worlds will be pay2play now but without npc-server abilties?

[Vincent_TK]

Originally posted by AlexH
Graal going completly p2p ($15 lifetime isnt that much so dont complain) meansno more annoying newbies.

Oh God I hope thats a joke. No more annoying 'newbies'? Ok, look at Graal 2001, its filled with annoying 'newbies'. What do you think this is going to do? Exterminate the annoying *******s who did upgrade or will eventually? lol.

[manton]

Originally posted by konidias
Wouldn't it just be smarter to get a p2p upgrade then? I mean, that's like, 15 dollars or something? Plus you're getting access to all p2p servers for that period of time, AND a lifetime account for all non-p2p. So it wouldn't make any sense to pay 15 only for non-p2p would it?

Well, if what I'm think is right then the $15 Classic upgrade is different from the Graal2001 $15 upgrade. Meaning, if you want both, you pay for both.
But if you're account is upgraded for 2001 by June, whatever date he said, then you automatically get the life time thing. Kind of a special deal.

[AlexH]

Originally posted by unixmad

We will experiment with a new way to register Graal by phone that will not require a credit card; Graal subscription will be billed directly on your phone bill.

Any idea when tis will be?
Hopefull in about30 dayswould be very usefull to me.

Andi notice you said accounts not registered by 2st June will be deleted.
Are these p2p accounts regstered or do we have to go register somewhere?

[Sir_Gareth]

I seriously dont like it.
It wont save graal.
Im made because UN is going so great now...now it will go down hill and it will be AWEFUL.
Keep it how it is.
I dont like this Idea....

[Warcaptain]

Originally posted by Spark910


Well i say its great but...... NO is my final Answer people listen ok we dont care about Paying for it but others will players on graal will drop about 70-80% And so there will be 100-120people who will pay only so its bad news, Ok its good so peope dont got 40+ Accounts but honestly NO one will pay for $15 for free servers maybe:

$8 and get lifetime free servers and 1month of P2p! Also i have about 30-40+ Friends on graal and i can tell you right now NO one will Pay! And also people who make P/w's will only have 1-2people on it as no1 can be bothered to Pay!

Unixmad your dowing ok just do as you are also 2002 is a bit annoying now we gotta wait 6months but ok i supposes!
BUT DONT DO IT

but it will bring a new crowd of people in, the kind who enjoy those kinda games...

more people like us.. non-newb asses.

but i dont like the paying for free servers thing...

just make all servers p2p and give em all free servers. tell them they have like... 2 months to rescript ne thing and then add npc-server, it it bugs too much remove the world.

[acidfear]

Originally posted by manton


Well, if what I'm think is right then the $15 Classic upgrade is different from the Graal2001 $15 upgrade. Meaning, if you want both, you pay for both.
But if you're account is upgraded for 2001 by June, whatever date he said, then you automatically get the life time thing. Kind of a special deal.

wait, so you get a lifetime special membership for both if your account is upgraded using the monthly upgrade?