Graal for other Operating Systems.

[ZanderX]

Due to the fact that I've completely disproved most of your arguments more than once, I've decided to let this round go to Crono. He'll be posting shortly, and defeating your argument as I have done twice.

If necessary, I'll intervene again; I don't find it hard to argue with stupid people, especially the "MICROSOFT SUCKS YOU ****ING *****" type.

[iniquitus]

Wow. Thats long. If it sounds like I'm trying to attack anyone, I'm not... It probly just sounds that way because I've had a bad day.

Peace, Love, and errr... you know, to all!

[iniquitus]

Microsoft has problems, so does every OS, it's just that Microsoft seems to have exponentialy more then the others. Glad you wont put more time and effort into talking crazy-talk

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by iniquitus
Microsoft has problems, so does every OS, it's just that Microsoft seems to have exponentialy more then the others. Glad you wont put more time and effort into talking crazy-talk

Crono will be giving you more "crazy-talk" soon.

[Crono Illusion]

Originally posted by iniquitus

You sound like an idoit trying to act smart and say something dumb like "ONLY SERVERS HAVE 64BIT!!!" there's also the Sun Sparc workstations (64bit btw.) that just got lowered to the $1000 price range. (Too bad there's little apps avaible for Sun.)

There's still nothing for end users that is 64bit.

Windows does, in fact consume much more Ram than it tells you when you open the "Task Manager", once again a beautiful Microsoft lie.

One screenshot:

As for DirectX I am under the assumption that Graal was recently re-writen to do away with it. And since there is a Linux version avaible (or so I'm told) I'm sure THAT isn't using DirectX.

You assume wrong, and the Linux version is very very limited in features.

A Firewall is only as secure as the Trusted Interfaces connected to it. I hope the people at your so-called secure network use VPN clients with at LEAST 1024bit 3DES + L2TP + MD5 encryption. I alos hope that your Router is un-detectable as far as the make/modle, because there are exploites for just about every one out there. You school runs a Linux server? I'm impressed, I run Linux on an 2/390 for a mid-sized hospitial. It doesnt take a genious to call up RedHat and have them give you support and get Linux running to do one simple task. Linux has reached a point where it's easy for anyone to use it well. I'd almost go as far as to say it's eaiser then 2000 or NT server. And yes, Linux does out-preform them, lets not forget the *fake benchmarks that Microsoft paid a company to put out saying that NT was faster then Samba.

I have Mandrake 8.0 set up on one of my computers. It's the easiest of the easy, I hear. I still don't get it, sorry.

On XP security, I'll give you a hint. Socket Core Access.
Also see .NET
And lets not forget the thing that almost everyone was vulnerable to these last few weeks SNMP? (Hmm, Apple wasnt on the adviseory list.)
Stick with Microsoft, their Product Activation and Manditory Passport accounts are so convienent for you. I cant wait for Banks to start using Passport, then the REAL fun will begin.

That's nice, I haven't used passport at all ever, and I run both Win2K and XP.

For your information when I started using computers Windows 3.1 or 3.11 didn't exsist yet, let alone Windows 95 or Windows 98, I grew up on IBM DOS, and basic. On Atari instead of Netendio. I was sending electronic mail on dial-up BBS's before most people knew what email was. Don't treat me like a child, I may enjoy Graal (hooked since 1.2x) , but I'm not classified in the 12-16 age group.

That's nice.

You want to talk about technology? lets see your certs? You work experience in the field? Your facts?

Kamuii has Microsoft Office certification, and has completed the A28 Computer Repair course.

I spent 3 years building up close to 15 custom PC's a day. I tend to know a thing or two when it comes to hardware. Why don't you go do some reading up, and come see me in 1-2 years.

I'll make a point of staying away from you, and not believing that you built 15 PCs a day.

[iniquitus]

The PowerPC is a RISC microprocessor developed by IBM and Motorola. The first such chip was the 601, released in 1992. After that, the 603 and 604 series were developed, then 750, also known as the G3, after which came the G4 series. You can check out the whitepapers on the 750's over at: http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/ youself if you don't belive that and while your at it http://www.apple.com/g4/ has some, but not very much, information as well, those are bad links, sorry, I couldn't find the Motorola ones because they re-designed their site, and I don't feel like spending hours finding proff to back up what I say.

Wheather anyone belives me or not doens't change the facts.

I have my MSCE, it's usless. I have no real respect for anyone who has it.
I have my CCIE, witch was a royal pain in the $%% to get, hats off to anyone else who took the time to get that one.
I'm working on my RHCE

My knowledge is mainly in IP networking. I'm attending college in the fall for a CS and Arts major. I used to work at a small 'computer company' and I mean small, the 15 pc's i did build up (thats an average btw, some days it was as low as 3, some as high a 30) I was the only full-timer. Then I worked the next year as a net admin for a small ISP, only 1100something dial-ups at the time I left, (70 something PRI circuts) now, i'm the net admin for a hospitial here. If you really want I can give you my work number, along with the number of the health board in this state so you can call, speak to me, and confirm my exsistance.

[iniquitus]

I forgot to mention Sun's 64bit workstation for under 1000$ :
http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/Bro...ml?catid=60357

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by iniquitus
I forgot to mention Sun's 64bit workstation for under 1000$ :
http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/Bro...ml?catid=60357

We were discussing desktop, home-end user computer, not workstations. That is NOT a desktop, home-end user computer.

[iniquitus]

"There's still nothing for end users that is 64bit. "

a workstation and desktop are the same thing, simpily workstation sounds more profesional, if you use that clasification, Windows 2000 and XP are workstations since they were based off "NT Workstation 4.0" I belive 2000 pro actualy says "NT Workstation 5.0" in the terminal emulator.

Apple is as home-user as it gets, and IBM does, indeed, use 64 and 128bit RISC chips. Keep in mind that RISC in general out preforms IA-86, and Intels new 64 bit chip, along with AMD's are being designed diferently to accomidate the 86 arch. the method IBM and Motorola have chosen however, is the beter method for processing today. It allows itself to be segmentied into seperate 'virtual' processors if you will... OR run in native 64 or 128bit mode. so apple does in fact use 128bit chips (G4) in their new products... why do you think they can release a G4 with only a clock speed of 1GHz and have it benchmark consideribly higher then 1.7GHz chips? The dual 1Ghz G4 PowerMac is definately hard to beat. I've tested one and they are really really fast. (As a referance, I use a popular 3d animation program released by SGI called maya 4, it's used by everyone in the movie industry today (including lucas arts, dreamworks etc.) and is avaible for windows, mac, and linux. GHz wise, mac blows away PC's that are more than twice as fast (GHz) Linux has recently become the OS of choice, becuase it's ends up cheaper just to cluster alot of small linux boxes, then pay for a Mac, Mac comes in second, and SGI comes in third for useage, simply because SGI systems are far too pricy... windows is shunned upon for Maya, and preforms horribly.

For something closer to home, my G3 (64bit) 600MHz has no problem playing a DVD in a window. (Ha. you think... SO? any computer can do that?!) But *I* can actualy drag the window around on my desktop, without any lag (or slowdown) and still see the picture and here the audio just as if it were still... I've only seen this ALMOST accomplished on an Athlon XP 1.7GHz with 512mb ram (i have 256) I say almost because on the PC the audio and video clipped when I dragged the window.

[Griffyn]

this is all greek to me