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Old 01-06-2002, 02:02 PM
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So... you are saying once you sign up they can instantly take away your service and your money? My, haven't you people been brainwashed. There is about, oh say 1 billion intelligent gamers that would back me up on this one.
If those intelligent gamers were actually intelligent, they would've read the graal policy, or any other, and noticed whether or not it said that they were able to refuse your service, delete your account, and not refund your money.

Just because alot of other games are 'refund,' does not mean graal is.
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If those intelligent gamers were actually intelligent, they would've read the graal policy, or any other, and noticed whether or not it said that they were able to refuse your service, delete your account, and not refund your money.

Just because alot of other games are 'refund,' does not mean graal is.
Most games also have a clause stating that if they go out of business prematurely, they don't owe anyone money. I'm still surprised Graal hasn't integrated this. *knock knock Stefan*
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:07 PM
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Beowulf2, you must be the stupidest person in the world, because i agree that they can delete your account, but no where in that contract does it say no refunds, thus they owe you your money back. As i said before with the exception of hacking. If you hack THEN you don't get your money back. Please don't change my words around.
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:10 PM
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Beowulf2, you must be the stupidest person in the world, because i agree that they can delete your account, but no where in that contract does it say no refunds, thus they owe you your money back. As i said before with the exception of hacking. If you hack THEN you don't get your money back. Please don't change my words around.
Yes. I'm stupid for having valid points and people who support my opinion. OF CORSE, I WUD BE SMERT IF I WAS WORIANN!
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:11 PM
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Beowulf2, you must be the stupidest person in the world, because i agree that they can delete your account, but no where in that contract does it say no refunds, thus they owe you your money back. As i said before with the exception of hacking. If you hack THEN you don't get your money back. Please don't change my words around.
Right from the Graal subscription terms:
"Subscriptions are non - refundable"
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:12 PM
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oh, and you don't need to go to study law to know this, its just a plain fact that everyone knows (err only smart people i guess because you never read this before)... Here's another reason why you are stupid. Why are you arguing with me? Do you really want to lose your money to crappy service?
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Beowulf2, you must be the stupidest person in the world, because i agree that they can delete your account, but no where in that contract does it say no refunds, thus they owe you your money back. As i said before with the exception of hacking. If you hack THEN you don't get your money back. Please don't change my words around.
I will show you.

http://www.graal2001.com/index.php?page=policy

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Old 01-06-2002, 02:13 PM
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lol you don't even know how to say my name right, *******.
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Do you really want to lose your money to crappy service?
IT IS A PRIVLEDGE.

YOU ARE NOT BEING FORCED TO PAY, OR PLAY.
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Who cares what teh ******* site says? Just ask stefan and he will tell you the correct terms.

Three words for you people. brainwashed and stupid.
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lol you don't even know how to say my name right, *******.
You don't know the terms. '*******.'

You should really know what you are agreeing to before you agree to a contract.

By the way, if you start with 'this was not in the agreement when i agreed,' then I will simply reply with 'but you agreeing to the contract, which was stated that is is going to change, and you still agree with the new one, your statements are invalid.'

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Old 01-06-2002, 02:16 PM
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Who cares what teh ******* site says? Just ask stefan and he will tell you the correct terms.

Three words for you people. brainwashed and stupid.
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:16 PM
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Who cares what teh ******* site says? Just ask stefan and he will tell you the correct terms.

Three words for you people. brainwashed and stupid.
what the site says is what Stefan will say
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Who cares what teh ******* site says? Just ask stefan and he will tell you the correct terms.

Three words for you people. brainwashed and stupid.
HE HAS BY ANSWERING THE QUESTION BEFOREHAND, ON THE SITE>
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:17 PM
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Who cares what teh ******* site says? Just ask stefan and he will tell you the correct terms.
Stefan owns and operates that site.


Those ARE the correct terms. Idiot.
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:17 PM
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Who cares what teh ******* site says? Just ask stefan and he will tell you the correct terms.

Three words for you people. brainwashed and stupid.
Those were only two words, since and doesn't count. It's an interjection or something (doesn't remember exactly).
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:19 PM
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Those were only two words, since and doesn't count. It's an interjection or something (doesn't remember exactly).
conjunction

interjections are words such as "ouch!, wow!, zoom!"
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:20 PM
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conjunction

interjections are words such as "ouch!, wow!, zoom!"
I was thinking a conjunction could only combine sentences. My bad. =P
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:23 PM
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conjunction junction.

wat is ur function.
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:23 PM
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and is still a word *******... I saw stefan say that if you are unsatisfied with graal, you can get a refund

my god. heres an imitation of you brainwashed people.

*pays $100 for a subscription for graal*
*Cyberjouer immediatley terminates account*
"thats ok cyberjouer, i don't need my refund"
*pays $100 for a subscription for graal*

Don't comment on the prices because it is just an example.
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I was thinking a conjunction could only combine sentences. My bad. =P
that is part of it...I just remember the School House Rock thing..."Conjunction, junction...what's your function"
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Old 01-06-2002, 02:26 PM
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I don't care if you brainwashed dumbasses hate me, because to tell you the truth, i don't give a hoot. Theres more intelligent people here that will agree with me.
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that is part of it...I just remember the School House Rock thing..."Conjunction, junction...what's your function"
Yes. Late, not quite thinking at top-speed.

And Worlann, they wouldn't do that. You can't do anything about it if they did though.
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and is still a word *******... I saw stefan say that if you are unsatisfied with graal, you can get a refund

my god. heres an imitation of you brainwashed people.

*pays $100 for a subscription for graal*
*Cyberjouer immediatley terminates account*
"thats ok cyberjouer, i don't need my refund"
*pays $100 for a subscription for graal*

Don't comment on the prices because it is just an example.
very bad attempt at being sarcastic

also, fairly ambigous...thing is, if your account in terminated BEFORE you say that you are unsatisfied, you won't get refunded...it would be different if you made the statement first before getting the account terminated.

Stop trying to use or create non-exsitent loop-holes
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See my point is WHAT IF they did that. Im not saying they will do that. But there must be something done if that happens, you need to read more carefully before you comment.
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and is still a word *******... I saw stefan say that if you are unsatisfied with graal, you can get a refund

my god. heres an imitation of you brainwashed people.

*pays $100 for a subscription for graal*
*Cyberjouer immediatley terminates account*
"thats ok cyberjouer, i don't need my refund"
*pays $100 for a subscription for graal*

Don't comment on the prices because it is just an example.
And here is you:

*Pays $27 US currency.*
*hacks, cheats, steals, acts like a ****ing idiot (as seen in this thread).*
*Admins - ban account.*
*Asks friend for other account*
*Friend - lets him use account on forum*

*Torankusu - checks forums to see something posted by ninjaterd's zerothonline(whatever) account,*
*Torankusu - reads it:
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MY ACOUTRn WAS DELEATED AND ALL I DID WAS US TEh SORC COD TAHT I GTO FROM MY FRIDN. I DIDTn NOT HAX OR NETHING!!!11 STAFN SAY TAHT U CAN gIT REFudn.!!! Y WOTN TEHY GIV IT U CORUTp BICHES. I AM SUIGN"*
*Torankusu - Posts argument.*
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I don't care if you brainwashed dumbasses hate me, because to tell you the truth, i don't give a hoot. Theres more intelligent people here that will agree with me.
Actually...

I don't see how we are brainwashed...for following the rules...
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I don't care if you brainwashed dumbasses hate me, because to tell you the truth, i don't give a hoot. Theres more intelligent people here that will agree with me.
actually, no, you cant sue them or do anything against cyberjoueur since you signed a "C-O-N-T-R-A-C-T" dont make me get my dictionary!! Even though I usually need it -_-' French 4 Ever ;D

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I don't care if you brainwashed dumbasses hate me, because to tell you the truth, i don't give a hoot. Theres more intelligent people here that will agree with me.
only those that forcibly make themselves unsatisfied or believe in such BS will side with you which is not many...
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Stefan used to give refunds, but then people starting going "i am not satisfied" about six-seven months into playing (unfair, no?) and wanted refunds. I think.
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And here is you:

*Pays $27 US currency.*
*hacks, cheats, steals, acts like a ****ing idiot (as seen in this thread).*
*Admins - ban account.*
*Asks friend for other account*
*Friend - lets him use account on forum*

*Torankusu - checks forums to see something posted by ninjaterd's zerothonline(whatever) account,*
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MY ACOUTRn WAS DELEATED AND ALL I DID WAS US TEh SORC COD TAHT I GTO FROM MY FRIDN. I DIDTn NOT HAX OR NETHING!!!11 STAFN SAY TAHT U CAN gIT REFudn.!!! Y WOTN TEHY GIV IT U CORUTp BICHES. I AM SUIGN"*
*Torankusu - Posts argument.*
Oh sure that really is me, im not a ******* like you are. Plus im not that ninjaterd guy, im my own person and have a free will, unlike you brainwashed *****s. plus, my name is WORLANN... learn to spell.
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Woah the final force of *****ic rebels is coming at us in full...down 2 the last to it seems. They attack by being so stupid they make you feel stupid, making you go into spasms of insanity...
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I am in a curious mood, please show me where stefan has made that statement...

Because really, what is on Graal2001.com is the actual binding set of rules/policies for Graal accounts...upgraded or not. Of course, if Stefan has said that (and he probably has) it just as valid...but it would be better if he had it written in stone so to speak.
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now for you brainwashed people... shut up because you have been owned... and for you sane people, please don't act like these brainwashed people.
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now for you brainwashed people... shut up because you have been owned... and for you sane people, please don't act like these brainwashed people.

Owned by who?
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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k


Oh sure that really is me, im not a ******* like you are. Plus im not that ninjaterd guy, im my own person and have a free will, unlike you brainwashed *****s. plus, my name is WORLANN... learn to spell.
We are brainwashed for understanding graal's contract? Just because graal does not return refunds, unlike those games that you can buy at the store and take back to the store for a refund, does not mean that WE are brainwashed. I think you are the brainwashed, or at least incompetent, one. Just stop arguing. You have lost many many times.

By the way; pertaining to your enactment of 'us' post; we probably don't ask for a refund because we are intelligent enough to realize that we agreed to no refund.
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