New Scripted RC

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

What makes you think it will have an impact?

It will affect every developer. I wouldn't trust an internal RC over fear of losing progress due to a disconnection (and it's not my connection, it's Graal). Say the server crashes, can the external RC even get online to start the NPC-Server?

[Meph]

I personally prefer the external RC as well.

For some reason, the Client-RC causes me to lag whenever a message or echo flies through on RC.

Whenever I accidentally hit the F6 button on iEra, I have to reconnect, because it severely effects my FPS.

Also, I dislike how Client-RC displays everything.
Chat, Trades, Reports, etc. It all populates in the same box, and there's no way to isolate it.
I prefer the tabs on the external RC.

This may be something that could be adjusted on our server; but it's another huge turn-off with Client-RC as of right now.

[DustyPorViva]

Also, multi-tasking with scripted RC is near impossible. I usually have 8+ scripts open at any given time... has anyone tried to do that with scripted RC? Because of the way they're made you can't exactly pull the graal window over them... it's just a huge hassle.

Most of the problems come back to how poorly the GUI's are implemented in Graal, and all the scripting in the world isn't going to fix that.

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

It will affect every developer. I wouldn't trust an internal RC over fear of losing progress due to a disconnection (and it's not my connection, it's Graal). Say the server crashes, can the external RC even get online to start the NPC-Server?

This is a very good point. I experience disconnections all the time... if I lost my progress every time this happened I would never get anything done.

[MysticalDragon]

This just killed my motivation. I'll probably be finishing up my projects, and going my separate way. I been around this community since i was 15 years old (I'm 29 now), and it took graal nearly 9 years to update RC2. Since the start of IOS Development, Graal has been promising these new great developer tools to ease this development stress with removing these makeshift tools that hardly get the job done. In your post you list a bunch of features that in all honestly don't help with anything and I personally would never use the. I was waiting for the "ooo, ahhs" and all i heard come out my mouth was "what the **** is this"?

I know it probably took a lot of effort creating this system, but Why? Thats my main concern, you explain its better? We disagree? Fill us in tell us why? We're still waiting on the first set of development tools that we was promised 6 years ago? Should we watch you destroy the last thing we actually use and wait another 11 years for something solid to replace it? I just don't get it, and just want to know why we're heading this way.

[shrimps]

Can't update comments either with ClientRC. I get this after I hit save.

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Can't update comments either with ClientRC. I get this after I hit save.

Updating to the new client fix's it.

[8:06:42 PM] PiX: http://graalonline.com/playerworlds/...GraalSetup.exe

[unixmad]

I am trying to find solutions to keep the external RC and still get compatibility with our new server code. For now we have some technical problems that don't allow this.

I will do my best to keep the external RC available and if possible release the code to some of you to improve it. The GUI could need a full rewrite because it is using GTK++ and is hard to recompile.

Contact me by Email if you have the skills to work on it and if you are not afraid to sign some confidentiality paper work.

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by unixmad

I am trying to find solutions to keep the external RC and still get compatibility with our new server code. For now we have some technical problems that don't allow this.

I will do my best to keep the external RC available and if possible release the code to some of you to improve it. The GUI could need a full rewrite because it is using GTK++ and is hard to recompile.

Contact me by Email if you have the skills to work on it and if you are not afraid to sign some confidentiality paper work.

Awesome that's a great Idea, gives the community the option to become apart of the project if they want it to remain.

[scriptless]

Originally Posted by unixmad

I am trying to find solutions to keep the external RC and still get compatibility with our new server code. For now we have some technical problems that don't allow this.

I will do my best to keep the external RC available and if possible release the code to some of you to improve it. The GUI could need a full rewrite because it is using GTK++ and is hard to recompile.

Contact me by Email if you have the skills to work on it and if you are not afraid to sign some confidentiality paper work.

Skills working with gtk++ specifically or any general programming language? Gtk isn't to hard to work with, but I've never heard of gtk++. Only gtkmm, gtk+, gtk+2.x and 3.x.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by unixmad

I am trying to find solutions to keep the external RC and still get compatibility with our new server code. For now we have some technical problems that don't allow this.

I will do my best to keep the external RC available and if possible release the code to some of you to improve it. The GUI could need a full rewrite because it is using GTK++ and is hard to recompile.

Contact me by Email if you have the skills to work on it and if you are not afraid to sign some confidentiality paper work.

Great idea, glad your going the community involvement route.

[alskdjfhg]

Originally Posted by Matt

Great idea, glad your going the community involvement route.

Kappa

[Elk]

Originally Posted by unixmad

I am trying to find solutions to keep the external RC and still get compatibility with our new server code. For now we have some technical problems that don't allow this.

I will do my best to keep the external RC available and if possible release the code to some of you to improve it. The GUI could need a full rewrite because it is using GTK++ and is hard to recompile.

Contact me by Email if you have the skills to work on it and if you are not afraid to sign some confidentiality paper work.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to unixmad again.

Sry bro

[Spiker]

This is a really bad idea.

Also, love that the only "tags" for this topic is "worst thing ever".

Originally Posted by unixmad

I am trying to find solutions to keep the external RC and still get compatibility with our new server code. For now we have some technical problems that don't allow this.

I will do my best to keep the external RC available and if possible release the code to some of you to improve it. The GUI could need a full rewrite because it is using GTK++ and is hard to recompile.

Contact me by Email if you have the skills to work on it and if you are not afraid to sign some confidentiality paper work.

FINALLY Unixmad is acknowledging us as players/developers.

[Jakov_the_Jakovasaur]

what happens when you script something which either accidentally or due to a bug crashes the client?

how are you then supposed to log back on remote control and remove the problem which crashes your client?

[Jakov_the_Jakovasaur]

Originally Posted by Jakov_the_Jakovasaur

what happens when you script something which either accidentally or due to a bug crashes the client?

how are you then supposed to log back on remote control and remove the problem which crashes your client?

am i the only person who sees this problem?

if it involves a system weapon then it wont be as if you can contact a pwa to come over and remove the problem on your behalf, as they will become crashed too!