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Old 04-26-2010, 11:53 PM
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Facebook is definitely interesting, although technology-speaking not so much (would need to use Flash to reach a wide audience).
Can we have animated avatars? My displayed picture on FB is animated.
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Facebook is definitely interesting, although technology-speaking not so much (would need to use Flash to reach a wide audience).
But we could talk about the same for graal really :/

Wouldn't it be more simple to bring it to something as simple as facebook? You'd get more people than you can handle.
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But we could talk about the same for graal really :/

Wouldn't it be more simple to bring it to something as simple as facebook? You'd get more people than you can handle.
I'm not sure how you figure re-writing Graal to use Flash's ActionScript3 is simple. At least with the iPhone OS he could use a lot of the code he has done for the engine already due to the language it was programmed in.

However, Flash would be a complete re-write from the ground up.
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Facebook is definitely interesting, although technology-speaking not so much (would need to use Flash to reach a wide audience).
...oooorr, like I mentioned more than once, a java web app.
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I'm not sure how you figure re-writing Graal to use Flash's ActionScript3 is simple. At least with the iPhone OS he could use a lot of the code he has done for the engine already due to the language it was programmed in.

However, Flash would be a complete re-write from the ground up.
I'm not a programmer but I used to play with flash when I was nine years old and I ended up making a small side scroll shooter. Flash or Java is easily doable. People do it all the time and I don't like seeing one of graal's biggest scripters or most well known scripters for somewhat of a chopped up script language that still lacks things that are somewhat necessary (I'm betting there is otherwise we wouldn't need the improvement thread for scripting which i see get requests all the time). Now Im not saying it's a bad thing entirely of what you said but what I want to say is that you're underestimating the people.

tl;dr: You underestimate the people and or are too lazy to give the idea a chance. Also development may not be anywhere near needed for this graal for it'd be all set up. I mean sure have graal police and an FAQ or two and a events hoster or few but other than that Not a damn thing else is needed.

One more edit: I might not have been clear but I am too busy to even edit.
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I'm not a programmer but I used to play with flash when I was nine years old and I ended up making a small side scroll shooter. Flash or Java is easily doable. People do it all the time and I don't like seeing one of graal's biggest scripters or most well known scripters for somewhat of a chopped up script language that still lacks things that are somewhat necessary (I'm betting there is otherwise we wouldn't need the improvement thread for scripting which i see get requests all the time). Now Im not saying it's a bad thing entirely of what you said but what I want to say is that you're underestimating the people.
You're the one underestimating. It'd take weeks to rewrite Graal for Flash with a dedicated team, and Graal doesn't have close to those resources. Just look how long v6 is taking .
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All this talk of Flash is invalid because I already posted the solution several times.
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Yeah.. I may not be a programmer but I still have an opinion towards how a group of people can do it if they're not lazy ****s or incompetent. Also I'd be overestimating the people. The only thing I could underestimate is the work. Please be more specific when you point **** out like that

But I agree with corey. If we were to do this we should go back to where it all began as a Java client.
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Yeah.. I may not be a programmer but I still have an opinion towards how a group of people can do it if they're not lazy ****s or incompetent. Also I'd be overestimating the people. The only thing I could underestimate is the work. Please be more specific when you point **** out like that

But I agree with corey. If we were to do this we should go back to where it all began as a Java client.
It has nothing to do with lazyness if 1) Stefan is not familiar with Flash and 2) He's not the kind of guy who's gonna let those who are poke around with the source.

I just don't think it's worth it.
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We already made several Flash games... But porting the whole engine to a dead technology is not that fun. We however think of using HTML5, with Canvas or WebGL.
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We however think of using HTML5, with Canvas or WebGL.
This would be cool, but good luck locking down the source with that. That, and it'd also be terribly hard to make an efficient GS2 interpreter in Javascript, or Flash.
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